Clomid/Toremifene

ncsugrad

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Started taking 50mg clomid & 80mg toremifene 5 days ago. I’ve had five straight nights of nocturnal and morning erections. This is after four months of nothing. Libido is low but noticed a little improvement. Let’s see how long this lasts.
I did low dose clomid a few weeks back, made me feel crazy but my libido def went up. Stopped taking it because of the crazy. I would go nuts on people for nothing haha

I hope your results stick. They have for a few people I’ve read about
 

Aflac94

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I did low dose clomid a few weeks back, made me feel crazy but my libido def went up. Stopped taking it because of the crazy. I would go nuts on people for nothing haha

I hope your results stick. They have for a few people I’ve read about

@Hbcap - did it stick ??
 

ncsugrad

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I'm not really sure. I'm not worse, but not sure I'm any better either. I was batshit crazy when I was taking the stuff though, and I was not taking very much either

I had a week or so of feeling pretty lazy after I stopped but was pretty decent the last few days. But I had also started taking small amounts of Tribulus the last few days too, so I think that was helping more than anything.

I had the thickest ejaculate I've ever seen. It was like vaseline level thickness, crazy. I guess Clomid gets the sperm count up
 

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Hey @Hbcap that's awesome experience! Don't change anything but I want to share a couple points

1) these are both safe and similar products, so it's likely they are competing for the estrogen receptor but since they're cheap, it doesn't matter... though I'd bet 1 of the two would be sufficient... still, don't change anything...

buttttt Clomid is made up of 2 different esters, whereas Enclomid is only 1 of those two... you may want to consider, whenever you finish this dual round (say 3 months), to cycle down with just enclomid for 4 weeks for a total of 16 weeks on these... all 3 products are very safe and myself & @IHateFin have had luck with clomid & enclomid (he loves enclomid, I think they're both good)

Furthermore, if you have any heart palpitation issues from the clomid, pop some potassium as it'll clear that up...
 

Hbcap

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Another successful night. I’ve definitely been feeling more like my old self this week for the first time in recent memory. Libido is creeping back which I’m ecstatic about as that’s my main issue. Currently hovering around a 3/10 which is great considering it’s been at 0 for the past 5 months.

Not sure if it’s the SERMS, the r andro run that I’ve just finished or the molly that I took on Saturday night haha..
 

Aflac94

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Another successful night. I’ve definitely been feeling more like my old self this week for the first time in recent memory. Libido is creeping back which I’m ecstatic about as that’s my main issue. Currently hovering around a 3/10 which is great considering it’s been at 0 for the past 5 months.

Not sure if it’s the SERMS, the r andro run that I’ve just finished or the molly that I took on Saturday night haha..

Haha definitely not a clean trail

How long have you been on SERM ?

And how long on R-Andro?

Glad you are getting improvement!
 

Hbcap

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I don’t want to jinx it however I’m noticing significant improvements. My libido is coming back slowly but surely. I’m noticing girls again and wanting sex. It’s been a really good week for me. Finished 4 times tonight

I don’t know if time is playing a role here, the clomid/torem or a snapback from the r andro but if things continue at this rate I can see myself making a full recovery.

One side I have developed over the last few weeks is psoriasis on my arms and legs which I’ve never had before. Honestly don’t even mind and I’ll take this over sexual sides any day.
 

Admiral

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What's the role of toremifene here, @Hbcap?
 

ncsugrad

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I don’t want to jinx it however I’m noticing significant improvements. My libido is coming back slowly but surely. I’m noticing girls again and wanting sex. It’s been a really good week for me. Finished 4 times tonight

I don’t know if time is playing a role here, the clomid/torem or a snapback from the r andro but if things continue at this rate I can see myself making a full recovery.

One side I have developed over the last few weeks is psoriasis on my arms and legs which I’ve never had before. Honestly don’t even mind and I’ll take this over sexual sides any day.
How the hell you're doing 4x a night doesn't even make sense to me, lol. I've never done more than twice. Maybe I need some extra testosterone added in, haha.

Glad to hear you're doing better though!
 

jinstewart

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I don’t want to jinx it however I’m noticing significant improvements. My libido is coming back slowly but surely. I’m noticing girls again and wanting sex. It’s been a really good week for me. Finished 4 times tonight

I don’t know if time is playing a role here, the clomid/torem or a snapback from the r andro but if things continue at this rate I can see myself making a full recovery.

One side I have developed over the last few weeks is psoriasis on my arms and legs which I’ve never had before. Honestly don’t even mind and I’ll take this over sexual sides any day.

How's this all going? Still on it?
 

Crashing

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how does one protect his eyes?

SERMS give floaters
CLOMIFENE gives floaters
ENCLOMIFENE gives floaters
LETROZOLE gives floaters
CIALIS gives floaters

is there any way to ensure that there will be sufficient estrogenic activity in the eyes no matter what?
 

Carsot8

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how does one protect his eyes?

SERMS give floaters
CLOMIFENE gives floaters
ENCLOMIFENE gives floaters
LETROZOLE gives floaters
CIALIS gives floaters

is there any way to ensure that there will be sufficient estrogenic activity in the eyes no matter what?


I have not noticed any floaters with the nolvadex I'm taking.
 

Hbcap

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How's this all going? Still on it?

Doing alright. Have good days and mediocre ones. Health wise i feel pretty good. I'm working out hard, recovering well and generally have a positive mindset. I've also started dating a new girl and manage to have sex fine with a low dose PDE5. In saying that, I'm nowhere near where i was libido wise before this all started. I used to be one horny mofo. I miss that visual libido that you experience when you see a hot girl walking down the street. I miss going out on the weekends and wanting to pick up chicks. Just don't have that desire anymore which i miss.

May give test / deca a try in a few months.
 

Admiral

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Is clomid save for one with low estrogen? I know it's an anti estrogen, but just mildly, no?
 

5 alpha

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Is clomid save for one with low estrogen? I know it's an anti estrogen, but just mildly, no?

I am a PFS guy that gets worse from inhibiting estrogen and I did not get worse from taking clomid. I did get worse when I added in an AI while taking clomid though. But clomid alone deff did not make me worse. The clomid increased my total and free T significantly and I felt hardly any improvements while on it. My clomid trial was soon after getting PFS though years ago. I wonder if I would react better to a giant increase in T these days though.

I don't think it correct to consider comid as an "anti E". It's blocking estrogen and testosterone at the pituitary gland "tricking" it into producing more LH and FSH.
If clomid is acting as an anti E by inhibiting estrogen in other ways it's deff mild. I know this because my total estrogen levels increased significantly while on it. I have read studies before if I remember correctly showing clomid blocking estrogen receptors in breast tissue. But I would not expect to see a over all decrease in estrogen levels from taking Clomid or any other SERM.
 
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Admiral

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Right. Thanks for that one.

I'm just on a very low dose; 10mg every other day.
 

5 alpha

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Right. Thanks for that one.

I'm just on a very low dose; 10mg every other day.

nice good luck on it keep us posted.

Estrogen among other things Is something I am very interested in right now. I had a low 3b-adiol reading shortly after getting PFS. Recently I found out 3b-adiol activates the estrogen receptors. Seeing that I got worse from inhibiting estrogen I find this very suspicious