Cnb30’s Post Accutane and PFS log.

[Orion]

Try dropping it for 4-5 days and see how you feel.

That or take with extra potassium chloride or high potassium foods, it depletes potassium.

 

[cnb30]

That or take with extra potassium chloride or high potassium foods, it depletes potassium.

I’ve decided to fast for the day and that seems to do the trick.

 

[cnb30]

I’m beginning to think that taking these supplements in general is making me feel worse. Like I have a rock in the front of my head.

 

[Orion]

I’m beginning to think that taking these supplements in general is making me feel worse. Like I have a rock in the front of my head.

General feeling here is the worse something makes you, the better the snapback will be when you stop, hopefully holds true for you as well.

 

[MNK99]

I had head pressure even cold empty feeling in head for a long time sometimes... but also: whenever I took something like ru, or copper, or supps from TEI... initially.
Now not so much, maybe something as strong as RU would. Also made my ADD worse (small price to pay for 2-3hrs or a day max). Anyways, the point is: everything that makes you better will also cause side effects. Also, the cold-empty head - hole in the head feeling... Jacknap had that during PFS too at times (not using anything I used mostly), meaning different mechanisms cause this.

 

[cnb30]

I had head pressure even cold empty feeling in head for a long time sometimes... but also: whenever I took something like ru, or copper, or supps from TEI... initially.
Now not so much, maybe something as strong as RU would. Also made my ADD worse (small price to pay for 2-3hrs or a day max). Anyways, the point is: everything that makes you better will also cause side effects. Also, the cold-empty head - hole in the head feeling... Jacknap had that during PFS too at times (not using anything I used mostly), meaning different mechanisms cause this.

I should also mention that I’m feeling more lethargic which usually happens after I stop taking Abilify. I’m considering going back on it.

 

[cnb30]

I am sincerely considering getting back on it. I feel almost like I’m in a worse state without it anyway.

 

[Orion]

I am sincerely considering getting back on it. I feel almost like I’m in a worse state without it anyway.

The consensus here is that you will never heal while on a SSRI, anti-psyhe, FIN, or tane, etc... avoid going back on if you can.

 

[MNK99]

- I think some (rare) might be able to...
- But I also know: that --> AAP's are the worst Psychiatric Drugs in modern day use.
- Although worst/best, is subjective and depends on an individuals neurochemistry and physiology, and reactions.
- I personally would never use them. I did use seroquel maybe weeks or months while on Effexor. Probably days to weeks... I didn't fill things and probably was only on it bc
- Effexor XR made me Manic (I thought about it in the following years) and pretty much concluded that several yrs ago. Confirmed last year by reading the doc's notes on me (last yr).
- I know one guy who does well on Abilify but I am fairly certain he's like me... BPII and doesn't need much, but I don't really know. He dropped out of some Lit or similar PhD, has a Master's tho. So he is doing well (surely went thru a lot of med trials). So for him, he is doing well.
- I personally feel he's super lucky in that regard, but of course we all (here and elsewhere) go thru tons. I mean he probably uses it bc other meds are unsuitable to him.
- Does it help your depression a lot @cnb30 ? no cognitive slowing?
- We are different probably in many ways, however I'd hate taking anything that slows me down mentally, even if it boosts mood.
-I can drive and even workout, and go to work, and school vaping a tiny bit of mmj... however, I need 1-3hrs before doing something like studying something difficult or
- Trading/ etc. Anything where I need to be at my sharpest.
- Hence, when done with PFS - I'll use it but mostly for sleep or instead of drinking, to socialize... and like 20-30x a yr max. Quite possibly not at all for yrs (never liked it much).
- I mean high CBD strains that are indica dominant or a mix of those and Sativas... it's hard to get it right. I do know drinking is crap for me tho, I had 2 drinking days this entire yr.
- Anyways I'm not judging you. Maybe Abilify is to you, like dex (and similar) are to me. I literally cured PSSD and then got into coke etc... before and after (short time/few yrs).

 

[cnb30]

I think the thing I’ve realized about Abilify is that it gives me a peace of mind and allows me to be productive. However I feel like when I take it in the long run, it kinda sucks me dry if you get what I mean.

 

[cnb30]

So I’ve decided to start up a new fast Today and can go till a few days before thanksgiving if I really put my mind into it. I basically have a 30 day window. Is it still ok to exersize at the moment? Also, while fasting, should I comtinute with the electrolyte protocol since that involves ingestion?

 

[cnb30]

I just realized that it would be better if I started next week. I’m seeing a doctor this week who is taking my weight and I have midterms. I’ve also decided to take a SMALL amount of abilify (1/2 a pill) and am feeling significantly better. Obviously this is just for short term and for today though I am realizing that abilify might be why I had such a positive spring/early summer this past year, and am thinking that propecia might’ve been more the cause of any recent issues. However, I can tell that there are some side effects and am probably only going to touch it once or twice again in the next few weeks.

 

[tanedout]

So I’ve decided to start up a new fast Today and can go till a few days before thanksgiving if I really put my mind into it. I basically have a 30 day window. Is it still ok to exersize at the moment? Also, while fasting, should I comtinute with the electrolyte protocol since that involves ingestion?

If you can manage 30 days you’d be putting yourself in a strong position.

That’s pretty much the best way to get your body to do a ‘reset to factory default’!

 

[cnb30]

If you can manage 30 days you’d be putting yourself in a strong position.

That’s pretty much the best way to get your body to do a ‘reset to factory default’!

I will start a new fast this Friday as I will basically still have a 30 day window. Furthermore, I've decided to start running long distance (and for at least 30-40 minutes) daily. Today is day 4 of doing that.

 

[SwaZ]

What is your diet like?
Sorry if i missed this somewhere.

 

[cnb30]

What is your diet like?
Sorry if i missed this somewhere.

Probably could be better, although I'm trying to limit my cheese intake and eat more vegetables than usual. Right now I would say it includes a lot of meat. I should probably mention that out of everything, diet is going to be by far the hardest thing for me to change and I refuse to permanently give up anything for the rest of my life (I could never do a permanent Keto diet).

I should also mention that I have been feeling significantly better this past week since I began running on a daily basis.

 

[MNK99]

---GEt rid of lactose and gluten/ increase veg and meat... good quality stuff. Not with nitrates and stuff. --Eat like 6-8 or even 4 meals that you like that are good and healthy.
-I mean like choose and plan those meals, not 8x a day. I eat 1-3x all at nite usually... a bit more now with TEI, but still ADF - Alt Day Fasting. But I don't need to....
-Can just eat normally 6 weeks if I want, but ... I never really do anything "normally".

 

[cnb30]

I’ve been eating more steak with meals. Other people on the accutane FB group have mentioned positive changes from that.

Also on a good note. I was feeling strong emotions for the first time in months today. It came from listening to a song, and while I’m overwhelmed with deadline work, but it was still the best I’d felt since maybe being in NYC this summer.

 

[Orion]

I’ve been eating more steak with meals. Other people on the accutane FB group have mentioned positive changes from that.

Also on a good note. I was feeling strong emotions for the first time in months today. It came from listening to a song, and while I’m overwhelmed with deadline work, but it was still the best I’d felt since maybe being in NYC this summer.

most likely the B vitamins, you need to test high dose B1 and B2. So many accutane studies on how B1 and potentially B2 are depleted and messed up from accutane.

 

[cnb30]

I am going to return to using PQQ as this is one supplement which I felt made a difference in the past.