Coffee Enemas

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I don't know how many people here are doing coffee enemas. I would like to share my experience with them, because I don't know how to deal with the side effects I get afterwards. I was wondering if there is a way to, at least, reduce them.
I find them hugely beneficial, but I was never able to keep doing them, because of the symptoms I get.

The days I do an enema (usually in the morning), what happens is that at night, after laying down in bed, I start to get bloated, having gases, some really fowl, mild gut pain, really greasy skin (more than I usually have), sphelgm, itching, sweating. I used to only think that it could just be accumulated fecal matter, toxins and probably they are being re absorbed...?
But I wonder if this explains all. Not sure here, sometimes what I think it's happening is that all food I eat on the day I do an enemas, seems to be not well digested. Because I've noticed when I go to the toilet the day after, the food that I ate seems barely digested. And, then, this is a "food party" for all bacteria in the gut.

For the reasons I've mentioned, it starts to completely disrupt my sleep on the days I do them. As I said, I would really like to do enemas consistently, but I can't just stand the fact it screws up my sleep. It's just a thunderstorm inside my gut, tons of noises and gases.

It seems it is pretty common for this to happen as I've been searching about it:

- Trapped gas after enemas
- bad gas and bloating after enemas
- tremendous amount of gas after coffee enema
- Horrible gas and bloating

I'm only putting links from curezone because it is pretty accurate regarding what I feel. But it is also possible to find other people saying they have the same issues on the Internet.

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Actually, even after stopping them, I continue to have the symptoms. I suppose it completely messes my gut flora.
In the past, the only way I could solve them was by taking tons of probiotics and things definitely calmed down after.

So, my main questions are:

- What can I do to reduce these symptoms?
And
- What's the best food to eat after doing coffee enemas? Some people say to eat a regular meal. Others say it's not wise to eat fat after doing an enema (a regular meal for me was always a terrible experience I must say. And it contained fat). In fact, what should we eat on the days we do coffee enemas? And I mean, the whole day.

Then, there are a lot of other questions that I quite don't have the "right" answer.
I am not an enema expert... There are so many aspects that I am still not completely sure. The way I did was basically following my practitioner instructions back then:

- Plastic enema bags or better to have a stainless steel bucket enema kit? Or it is not really a thing to worry about? Mine is plastic.
- Grind the coffee right before doing an enema of buying an already ground coffee is just fine? I used to do with already ground coffee.
- What's the best quality coffee to do it? Should it be light, medium, dark roast coffee? From what country? Mine was dark roast.
- Again, what are the best positions to do it? I simply opted to lie on my right side.
- How much water? 500 mL, 1 L, 2L? I actually always did around 1.5 L per enemas as following my practitioner instructions.
- How much coffee? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (...) tbsps? Only did 2 tbsps. maximum.
- Should I put salt in the enema too? I would always put salt on my enema (1 tbsp.). Again, just following the instructions from my practitioner. I must say it feels really good and probably helps you to relax. Also, it may help to keep you hydrated.
- How much time? 10, 12, 15 minutes, 30 minutes, 1 hour? Some even say that the more you can handle, the best for you. Other people say the opposite. I would just do 15 minutes.
- What type of water should we use? Filtered, spring,...? I always used spring water (dunno if its pH really matters for the purpose. Since I would put salt, I would probably change its pH anyway).
- What is the best time of the day to do it? Morning, afternoon or at night? I would always start doing them in the morning, but I would end up doing doing them in the afternoon sometimes, because of the lack of sleep they were creating.
- Should I eat before doing an enema? Should I be in a fasting state? Sometimes I would eat a fruit. Apple usually.

Another thing that bothered me was the time that it would take me to complete all the process. Especially the evacuating part. I must be so constipated that I can literally have 1L-2L of water inside my gut and it doesn't move at all. And to move, sometimes would take a lot of time (up to 1 hour or more). Some people say that happens because I am dehydrated. I wonder about that though.

@bruschi11 I've read you saying that you have been doing them. Do you get similar symptoms? Are you able to eat normal on the days you do coffee enemas? What is your experience with them and what is your advice when doing them?
 
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I don't know how many people here are doing coffee enemas. I would like to share my experience with them, because I don't know how to deal with the side effects I get afterwards. I was wondering if there is a way to, at least, reduce them.
I find them hugely beneficial, but I was never able to keep doing them, because of the symptoms I get.

The days I do an enema (usually in the morning), what happens is that at night, after laying down in bed, I start to get bloated, having gases, some really fowl, mild gut pain, really greasy skin (more than I usually have), sphelgm, itching, sweating. I used to only think that it could just be accumulated fecal matter, toxins and probably they are being re absorbed...?
But I wonder if this explains all. Not sure here, sometimes what I think it's happening is that all food I eat on the day I do an enemas, seems to be not well digested. Because I've noticed when I go to the toilet the day after, the food that I ate seems barely digested. And, then, this is a "food party" for all bacteria in the gut.

For the reasons I've mentioned, it starts to completely disrupt my sleep on the days I do them. As I said, I would really like to do enemas consistently, but I can't just stand the fact it screws up my sleep. It's just a thunderstorm inside my gut, tons of noises and gases.

It seems it is pretty common for this to happen as I've been searching about it:

- Trapped gas after enemas
- bad gas and bloating after enemas
- tremendous amount of gas after coffee enema
- Horrible gas and bloating

I'm only putting links from curezone because it is pretty accurate regarding what I feel. But it is also possible to find other people saying they have the same issues on the Internet.

----\\----

Actually, even after stopping them, I continue to have the symptoms. I suppose it completely messes my gut flora.
In the past, the only way I could solve them was by taking tons of probiotics and things definitely calmed down after.

So, my main questions are:

- What can I do to reduce these symptoms?
And
- What's the best food to eat after doing coffee enemas? Some people say to eat a regular meal. Others say it's not wise to eat fat after doing an enema (a regular meal for me was always a terrible experience I must say. And it contained fat). In fact, what should we eat on the days we do coffee enemas? And I mean, the whole day.

Then, there are a lot of other questions that I quite don't have the "right" answer.
I am not an enema expert... There are so many aspects that I am still not completely sure. The way I did was basically following my practitioner instructions back then:

- Plastic enema bags or better to have a stainless steel bucket enema kit? Or it is not really a thing to worry about? Mine is plastic.
- Grind the coffee right before doing an enema of buying an already ground coffee is just fine? I used to do with already ground coffee.
- What's the best quality coffee to do it? Should it be light, medium, dark roast coffee? From what country? Mine was dark roast.
- Again, what are the best positions to do it? I simply opted to lie on my right side.
- How much water? 500 mL, 1 L, 2L? I actually always did around 1.5 L per enemas as following my practitioner instructions.
- How much coffee? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (...) tbsps? Only did 2 tbsps. maximum.
- Should I put salt in the enema too? I would always put salt on my enema (1 tbsp.). Again, just following the instructions from my practitioner. I must say it feels really good and probably helps you to relax. Also, it may help to keep you hydrated.
- How much time? 10, 12, 15 minutes, 30 minutes, 1 hour? Some even say that the more you can handle, the best for you. Other people say the opposite. I would just do 15 minutes.
- What type of water should we use? Filtered, spring,...? I always used spring water (dunno if its pH really matters for the purpose. Since I would put salt, I would probably change its pH anyway).
- What is the best time of the day to do it? Morning, afternoon or at night? I would always start doing them in the morning, but I would end up doing doing them in the afternoon sometimes, because of the lack of sleep they were creating.
- Should I eat before doing an enema? Should I be in a fasting state? Sometimes I would eat a fruit. Apple usually.

Another thing that bothered me was the time that it would take me to complete all the process. Especially the evacuating part. I must be so constipated that I can literally have 1L-2L of water inside my gut and it doesn't move at all. And to move, sometimes would take a lot of time (up to 1 hour or more). Some people say that happens because I am dehydrated. I wonder about that though.

@bruschi11 I've read you saying that you have been doing them. Do you get similar symptoms? Are you able to eat normal on the days you do coffee enemas? What is your experience with them and what is your advice when doing them?

I do pretty much normal days when I do them. They can definitely allow some toxic in the gut/blood i guess as I would get shrinkage during them when I was sicker a couple months back. Lol a mini-milestone for me was when coffee enemas stopped causing my nuts to shrink.

So maybe that was what your reaction was. Maybe try some sort of binder like a clay, sauna, some sort of detoxification help afterward.
 

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- Plastic enema bags or better to have a stainless steel bucket enema kit? Or it is not really a thing to worry about? Mine is plastic.
- Grind the coffee right before doing an enema of buying an already ground coffee is just fine? I used to do with already ground coffee.
- What's the best quality coffee to do it? Should it be light, medium, dark roast coffee? From what country? Mine was dark roast.
- Again, what are the best positions to do it? I simply opted to lie on my right side.
- How much water? 500 mL, 1 L, 2L? I actually always did around 1.5 L per enemas as following my practitioner instructions.
- How much coffee? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (...) tbsps? Only did 2 tbsps. maximum.
- Should I put salt in the enema too? I would always put salt on my enema (1 tbsp.). Again, just following the instructions from my practitioner. I must say it feels really good and probably helps you to relax. Also, it may help to keep you hydrated.
- How much time? 10, 12, 15 minutes, 30 minutes, 1 hour? Some even say that the more you can handle, the best for you. Other people say the opposite. I would just do 15 minutes.
- What type of water should we use? Filtered, spring,...? I always used spring water (dunno if its pH really matters for the purpose. Since I would put salt, I would probably change its pH anyway).
- What is the best time of the day to do it? Morning, afternoon or at night? I would always start doing them in the morning, but I would end up doing doing them in the afternoon sometimes, because of the lack of sleep they were creating.
- Should I eat before doing an enema? Should I be in a fasting state? Sometimes I would eat a fruit. Apple usually.
@bruschi11 what do you do differently from this list?
 

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Coffee Enemas

Bring 3 tbsp. of ground organic coffee to a boil in 1 quart of filtered water, boil for 5 minutes, reduce the flame, cover, and continue simmering for another 15 minutes

How much is a quart when you live in non english europe!!!!!!!!!
 

Latapy

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I do pretty much normal days when I do them. They can definitely allow some toxic in the gut/blood i guess as I would get shrinkage during them when I was sicker a couple months back. Lol a mini-milestone for me was when coffee enemas stopped causing my nuts to shrink.
Yeah! My whole junk also moves a lot when doing coffee enemas. Actually, I don't remember having this side effect when starting doing them... Only after I had a health meltdown in the past year that this started to happen. The enema experience also became a little harder after that.

So maybe that was what your reaction was. Maybe try some sort of binder like a clay, sauna, some sort of detoxification help afterward.
My major problem is during the night, because it is when my gut starts to do tons of noises, some mild pain, so I feel really uncomfortable since it doesn't let me sleep. I do feel like the food I eat during the day is not well digested as I said above... So my digestion seems to get wrecked. I wonder if the reason why Max Gerson would focus on juices was because of this...

I've read you do probiotic enemas at night the days you do coffee enemas. I've also read you saying doing spring water enemas... So I was not actually thinking about sauna or something like that, but perhaps just doing a water enema before going to bed during the night may help to remove the garbage that remained inside the gut and I may not have so much side effects. Of course this, if I am able to excrete the water, because I am so constipated that sometimes I am actually not able to poop anything. It all stays inside my gut. Maybe it can still help. I guess I will have to try.
 
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Latapy

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Coffee Enemas

Bring 3 tbsp. of ground organic coffee to a boil in 1 quart of filtered water, boil for 5 minutes, reduce the flame, cover, and continue simmering for another 15 minutes

How much is a quart when you live in non english europe!!!!!!!!!
I've already read what zerocarbzen says about coffee enemas. But if you start searching a little more (Google, Youtube), you will find that every person has his own way of doing it. Which can lead to confusion.

You also have Dr. Wilson. I found him to be the pickiest one when talking about enemas, whether he is right or wrong on what he says.
COFFEE ENEMAS

1 quart is 946.352946 milliliters. Basically, around 1 liter.
 

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I just use a keurig machine and I have a clear K cup that I use to put ground Columbian organic dark coffee in.

I got the beans and just used my blender to grind them.
 

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@Latapy

I use probiotic enemas and retain them all night before bed once or twice a week. I did it almost every night of my 21 day fast. If you think you have major gut problems, maybe try nightly for a few weeks and see if they improve. I use visbiome powder- like $80.00 for 30 packets. $80.00 goes a long way when you are doing them seldomly like I am now.

Also, I use spring water enemas here and there. When I'm feeling toxic, constipated, after a liver flush possibly- really at times when I feel I could use an enema but not wanting to get coffee involved (later in day, night).
 

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I do pretty much normal days when I do them. They can definitely allow some toxic in the gut/blood i guess as I would get shrinkage during them when I was sicker a couple months back. Lol a mini-milestone for me was when coffee enemas stopped causing my nuts to shrink.

So maybe that was what your reaction was. Maybe try some sort of binder like a clay, sauna, some sort of detoxification help afterward.

So, you got shrinkage due to intoxification? Where, on your nuts? Very interesting point to me: Intoxification of the gut (aka inflammation) and shrinkage, right? So, how did you treat your shrinkage? By deflammation aka detoxing with ennemas or another way?
Have you nervus pudendus issues or at least symptoms of loss of penil sensation?
I think we could be here on something. I read some articles of Dr. Amy Asko re methylation pathways and possible neurological cure by personalized cause DNA based supplements helping you getting the proper methylation pathways back in order to detox, metabolize and so on.
One interesting thing is that heavy metals can stop or inhibit the pathways and then ! the homeostasis is not given anymore cause the body tries to correct by taking stuff like minerals or vitamins away. That could be the symptom we all have - imbalance in minerals, Vit. and therefore hormons, too due to not properly running methylation pathways. I already posted the links to Dr. Amy Asko.
Ennemas are good but not good as colon hydro. Anyway, both are symptom fighter, in the end the body should be able to get in balance back.
As I was told, best would be to check your heavy metal load by provoking test. Then you know more. Hairtest alone is not useful - a lack of h.metals there could mean you cannot detox.
If you have metal load, chelation is best as other ways can take you years to get them out on the intracellular level.
While doing chelation, you should treat your gut by eating well and having supplements (best would be based on your DNA test).
Results: your body will deflame and work correctly again as inflammation can target lots of things like the cns and liver and gut, where even peptides like BPC-157 are produced. Check for BPC treatments and success - I guess this people have gut issues at the same time...
Base is a comprehensive testing of stool, inflammation parameters, AR, hormones and heavy metals.
2.step: treatment of the issues (forex gut treatment by eating correctly and supplementing or even infusing)
3.step: prog/ru protocols will work (better)

Guys, this is generally said the comprehensive way to heal. In my eyes.
If that is not the complete solution, I guess then we need a stem cell therapy treatment to completely rebuild our immun system. Best
 

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Yes I guess that is right @noprop - shrinkage from intoxication of toxins basically being released in liver.

Chi- a propeciahelp recovery story had a similar occurrence after fasting and milk thistle use that led him to shrinkage. It appears a buildup of toxins can hurt some our "PFS imbalance" and cause issues.

I like your post above but also add ARL/TEI mineral balancing to the steps.
 

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Thx, I am convinced that after the three steps the mineral balance should be okay as the methylation pathways are working correctly.
I guess treating with minerals is the other way round in order to get the pathways corrected. I think the mineral way will take much more time. Just a guess.
 

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Eh, I think mineral balance can help accomplish a good portion of what you mention above while a good portion of what you mention above will help mineral balance as well.

I think attacking from both angles is the best way and that's really what I pride what my recovery will be based off.
 

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Alright, that is a way to go. Let me know if and when you are having chelation (NA EDTA), best
 

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Alright, that is a way to go. Let me know if and when you are having chelation (NA EDTA), best
@noprop , when you mean by chelate, are you talking about IV chelation?
My experience with IV EDTA was really bad. Man, I couldn't handle it. I did it during 4 weeks.
There was a nurse in particular that would always hurt me when inserting the syringe. It was a ton of stress for me. Then, I would stress her and she would do even worse.
If I could do it on my own, perhaps I think I would consider it.
Although, I also believe the body has its own excretion mechanisms the detoxify from heavy metals.

IV treatments can be really painful in my opinion. Unless it is a person that you really trust a feel comfortable that is doing them.

I think @opiath has no good experience with it too, if I recall it correctly.
 
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First, congrats you made it and have the opportunity to do so. Great!
I can tell you that IV chelation is the way to reduce heavy metal intoxification on both intracellular and intercellular level. You need to do so to help the body detoxing on his own again.

But a detoxed and weak body cannot detox properly. Just remember that almost all pfs suffers have low gluthation levels. This way it is almost impossible to have a properly running detox system and this is affecting all the methylation cycles.
So. first you must help your body.

I can understand that you don't like this nurse doing a bad job. But it has to be done. Just ask her to do it in a manner you don't feel the
syringe. The syringe doesn't hurt if placed correctly in the vain. If it touches the upper or inferior wall of the vain, it will hurt.
Anyway, there are some points to pay attention doing IV chelation.

1. IV chelation cannot be done without IV supplementing of gluthation and Vit.b and amino acids. Those IV have to be done first. You need a non medical practitioner to do so. Generally said: you need 1-2 build up IV, then 1-2 chelations, that's the cycle.
2. The IV chelation should be done with NA and not CA EDTA, so NA EDTA is needed. Ask for that.
3. The chelation need to be done over a timeframe of 3 hours each! 2 hours are not sufficient and can cause pain!
4. Even if done properly you can have a bit pain (in the shoulder, back, arm...) this is normal and goes away. You need to be a man even on pfs. I made the same experience.
5. 2 chelations are not enough. Sometimes you need at least 10-20.
6. If you have gut issues, take bentonit for the time you have treatment. You can take a lot of it.
7. Treat gut issues as well. If you don't know whether you have, do. a comprehensive stool test.
Maingoal is to help your body detoxing itself and start running the methylation pathway properly again. Check my attached images (pathways). As soon as you understand how h.metals inhibit those pathways and destroy also organs (capacity/functioning), you will go the right way.
It will take years to detox if you go on other stuff like chlorella and so on. And it might be dangerous, too.
Feel free to ask, please. Best
 

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First, congrats you made it and have the opportunity to do so. Great!
I can tell you that IV chelation is the way to reduce heavy metal intoxification on both intracellular and intercellular level. You need to do so to help the body detoxing on his own again.

But a detoxed and weak body cannot detox properly. Just remember that almost all pfs suffers have low gluthation levels. This way it is almost impossible to have a properly running detox system and this is affecting all the methylation cycles.
So. first you must help your body.

I can understand that you don't like this nurse doing a bad job. But it has to be done. Just ask her to do it in a manner you don't feel the
syringe. The syringe doesn't hurt if placed correctly in the vain. If it touches the upper or inferior wall of the vain, it will hurt.
Anyway, there are some points to pay attention doing IV chelation.

1. IV chelation cannot be done without IV supplementing of gluthation and Vit.b and amino acids. Those IV have to be done first. You need a non medical practitioner to do so. Generally said: you need 1-2 build up IV, then 1-2 chelations, that's the cycle.
2. The IV chelation should be done with NA and not CA EDTA, so NA EDTA is needed. Ask for that.
3. The chelation need to be done over a timeframe of 3 hours each! 2 hours are not sufficient and can cause pain!
4. Even if done properly you can have a bit pain (in the shoulder, back, arm...) this is normal and goes away. You need to be a man even on pfs. I made the same experience.
5. 2 chelations are not enough. Sometimes you need at least 10-20.
6. If you have gut issues, take bentonit for the time you have treatment. You can take a lot of it.
7. Treat gut issues as well. If you don't know whether you have, do. a comprehensive stool test.
Maingoal is to help your body detoxing itself and start running the methylation pathway properly again. Check my attached images (pathways). As soon as you understand how h.metals inhibit those pathways and destroy also organs (capacity/functioning), you will go the right way.
It will take years to detox if you go on other stuff like chlorella and so on. And it might be dangerous, too.
Feel free to ask, please. Best
I was not expecting such detailed and attentive answer. I really appreciate you doing that.

I was doing it on a clinic here in my city... I know that about the syringe and I think she knew that too. There were two nurses on that clinic: one was very nice and professional; the other would just raise my stress levels and hurt my veins. But, of course, I had no right to choose what nurse I wanted, and that could actually cause not so good social environment.
But this has happened several times when doing blood tests too: there are nurses that are simply not gentle when inserting the syringe.

I did, or should I say, tried chelation in the past year. And I am not sure if I feel like coming back to that clinic, because the way how I left it... I felt like I was getting sicker and I didn't like how people would interpret my symptoms with the classic "it's all in your head".
Perhaps, indeed, now that I am learning more and more, they had the right tools to make me feel better and healthier, but the treatments and especially the lack of empathy were making me very anxious and depressed (it could also be side effects from the treatments, but no one there would tell me that...).
I don't know what type of EDTA they were using... Actually, I can't imagine if I would start asking or demanding the things you were saying... I am nobody for them. These clinics have their own protocol and you have to follow it. And, the truth is, I don't know much and their knowledge is surely bigger than mine. It would be something like: "Who the hell is this (sick) dude that thinks that knows more than me?". Only a open minded practitioner would be able to discuss on how to do things. I actually tried sometimes, but she didn't have answer for my questions or I feel like she would simply ignore them.
Yeah, it has to be ton of sessions... I only did 4.

I don't think she was supplementing me with gluthathione. Maybe supplementing with things that support the creation of gluthathione. I was being supplemented with:

- RPC Multivitamin dietary supplement liquid with antioxidants, immune system and metabolism support | RPC Multivitamin
- HoloRam® Cerevitan | HoloRam Line
- and this http://www.kinat.com/pdf/Detox-Kit - EN.pdf . Probably what @gbolduev is referring to when saying "In regular homeopathy they give people some weird crap that you never heard off."

The session would take around 1-2 hours. No more than that as I remember. Sometimes, I remember them opening the serum to be faster actually. But then I would get pain in my veins, because of the EDTA's acidity. So, they would put sodium bicarbonate to counter the acid from EDTA. I don't actually remember having real pain besides this one during the session. Other sensations I would have were tingling sensations especially on my lips, fingers and I warm hands and feet too.

I was also doing Infra red saunas and IV Ozonotherapy. Also coffee enemas every so often. I was basically pushing my detox pathways to the limits I would say. I wonder if I was correctly supporting my organism for all this...

For gut issues, they were giving me probiotics...

Just a little note: I am not a PFS. PSSD here (10 years on SSRIs). However, I have issues since childhood and these are the ones I want to try to get better and hoping the rest will solve by itself.
 
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Also look up Andy Cutler's chelation protocol. The Facebook group is probably the best place to look: facebook.com/groups/acfanatics/

One of the key aspects of the protocol is taking supplements to help recycle glutathione. Often it is already being created at a rapid rate but is getting depleted just as fast.

I remember a guy who joined the FB group last year who got hurt with IV chelation. Unfortunately he was unable to try Cutler's protocol due to the severity of the damage and ended up killing himself a few months later. Chelation done incorrectly can be extremely dangerous so make sure to thoroughly research all your options.
 
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Okay, thx for your reply. I have spent dozens of hours re detoxing. I know almost all possible treatments and was on different platforms re feedbacks.

After my third IV I felt also sick, finally! I could finally sleep for several hours which I couldn't for 8 months.

Here is my last post cause I am repeating myself:
IV chelation is the best way to detox (at least as a start to help the body). I know a lot about Andy Cutler. Keep away in any case. You can hurt yourself.

Hospital: it is all in your head argument. I would give a damn on it as I know they must say this. No doc or so would say the opposite, it would mean his end of career. Don't forget docs are not here to help (in most cases), they are to treat symptoms not to cure cause cure would mean no profit. You must understand this.
The bigger problem seems to me that they don't give you building up IV. What they think is not important.
My advise: go to a practitioner or nonmedical practitioner which treates professionally with IV. Of course, you need research even comprehensive one. Cause this is not like going to buy a drug. IV chelation must be done correctly. If you live in Germany, you will find one.

Anyway, before detoxing, I would test for heavy metals doing the provoking test with DMPS. Then you know more.
There is no sense stopping chelation cause the hospital guys were unfriendly or so. They are not important.
Important is to find someone correctly by searching online.

MNK99 cured his pssd symptoms, get in touch with him.

I wish you the best.
 

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Here again: my impression is that they don't really want to detox properly as it is a healing process and an important one.
Though I don't know all stuff, I am asking absolute directly what I want to know. Cause I am paying. And I criticized also some docs for saying bs. But more important is to find a competent doc who does it professionally and is open for questions.
I would not like to go to the assholes back to the hospital. It is for them like working in a big dark hole, they are numbers.
They don't deserves your attention. Good luck!
 

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I started with coffee enemas again and I have a lot of acne on my face (white heads) Is that "detox" or some leaky gut symptom heh? I have leaky gut for sure, but the coffee is just in the end of the large intestine so it shouldn't be a problem right?