CONNECTION LICORICE, INOSITOL, RU, ELLA, PROGESTERONE,LITHIUM

[wuf]

Just a quick update: Im on 18g of Inositol for 3 weeks now, did nothing to my sensitivity but improved the quality of my erections! Nocturnal and morning wood everyday.

Why should inositol help in erections or sexual department?

 

[Shadow]

Just a quick update: Im on 18g of Inositol for 3 weeks now, did nothing to my sensitivity but improved the quality of my erections! Nocturnal and morning wood everyday.

Why should inositol help in erections or sexual department?

It seems to upregulate 5HT1A, wich is responsible for some sexual functioning

 

[wuf]

Just a quick update: Im on 18g of Inositol for 3 weeks now, did nothing to my sensitivity but improved the quality of my erections! Nocturnal and morning wood everyday.

Why should inositol help in erections or sexual department?

It seems to upregulate 5HT1A, wich is responsible for some sexual functioning

Great, thanks.
Am I wrong or somebody did post a link in some section that I do nnot remember about a guy who was recovering from penis sensitivity and then using inositol went back to insensitivity again? He was a PSSD suffer, maybe I am twisting cause I do not remember well.
So, I mean could inositol be a dangerous supplements regarding sexual department?
I am happy for your improvements!!

 

[Memento]

Re: CONNECTION LICORICE, INOSITOL, RU, ELLA, PROGESTERONE

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<URL url="https://www.drugs.com/answers/lithium-libido-increased-anyone-issue-676767.html"><LINK_TEXT text="https://www.drugs.com/answers/lithium-l ... 76767.html">https://www.drugs.com/answers/lithium-libido-increased-anyone-issue-676767.html</LINK_TEXT></URL><br/>
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<URL url="https://www.psychforums.com/bipolar/topic127142.html">https://www.psychforums.com/bipolar/topic127142.html</URL><br/>
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Interesting.
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I actually wanted to try lithium orotate for mood stabilization and apparently it has gaba benefits too. <br/>
would it be safe to try?
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Lithium has certainly interesting properties. I think it showed positive effects even in 300mcg/day range with alzheimers patients. Low amount in Lithium orotate supplements should be safe and might have benefits in mood control. I'm currently using 6 5mg capsules a day, no side effects other than slight sedation and metallic taste in my mouth. I will likely get a prescription for lithium carbonate, as my current dose of orotate should have similar amount of elemental lithium as smallest available lithium carbonate pill.</r>

 

[jacknap]

Re: CONNECTION LICORICE, INOSITOL, RU, ELLA, PROGESTERONE

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<URL url="https://www.drugs.com/answers/lithium-libido-increased-anyone-issue-676767.html"><LINK_TEXT text="https://www.drugs.com/answers/lithium-l ... 76767.html">https://www.drugs.com/answers/lithium-libido-increased-anyone-issue-676767.html</LINK_TEXT></URL><br/>
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<URL url="https://www.psychforums.com/bipolar/topic127142.html">https://www.psychforums.com/bipolar/topic127142.html</URL><br/>
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Interesting.
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I actually wanted to try lithium orotate for mood stabilization and apparently it has gaba benefits too. <br/>
would it be safe to try?
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Lithium has certainly interesting properties. I think it showed positive effects even in 300mcg/day range with alzheimers patients. Low amount in Lithium orotate supplements should be safe and might have benefits in mood control. I'm currently using 6 5mg capsules a day, no side effects other than slight sedation and metallic taste in my mouth. I will likely get a prescription for lithium carbonate, as my current dose of orotate should have similar amount of elemental lithium as smallest available lithium carbonate pill.
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carbonate is toxic apparently. checkout john gray talking about it on youtube. he's a huge oratate fan and pretty knowledgeable.<br/>
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the sedating effect does it last 24 hours? was thinking if i try it use it for the evenings so it doesn't dull me out in the day.</r>

 

[Shadow]

Just to log the info:

Its from a PSSDForum user:

I did another 5 doses subsequently (because it felt nice), so my experiment was 12 days on Ella (Ulipristal Acetate) at 7.5 mg.
very important: DURING the Metergoline cycle, which I'm still on.

I took my last dose of Ella two days ago, no change in my PSSD symptoms. I'm also not expecting any improvements anymore.

 

[Memento]

Re: CONNECTION LICORICE, INOSITOL, RU, ELLA, PROGESTERONE

<r><QUOTE author="jacknap" post_id="2848" time="1509126994" user_id="82"><s>

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the sedating effect does it last 24 hours? was thinking if i try it use it for the evenings so it doesn't dull me out in the day.
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I cant really comment for a single 5mg dose, I didn't really notice any effects. With healthy brain it might be different, break a capsule and start with a smaller dose if sedation feels uncomfortable. Very slight sedation for me comes with dosing 2 pills 3 times a day, my brain is pretty fukt hence the need/wan't for higher dosage.<br/>
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I need to look that carbonate thing up, but I highly doubt that low doses are any more harmful than orotate. Lithium carbonate has a pretty long track record and the problems stem from the huge amounts used. Easily 300+mg of elemental lithium daily, moree than ten times more that I use now.<br/>
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<URL url="http://jeffreydachmd.com/2015/12/lithium-orotate/">http://jeffreydachmd.com/2015/12/lithium-orotate/</URL><br/>
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A lot of sources listed here, even if the article itself is pretty nausea inducing.</r>

 

[expendable]

Just to log the info:

Its from a PSSDForum user:

I did another 5 doses subsequently (because it felt nice), so my experiment was 12 days on Ella (Ulipristal Acetate) at 7.5 mg.
very important: DURING the Metergoline cycle, which I'm still on.

I took my last dose of Ella two days ago, no change in my PSSD symptoms. I'm also not expecting any improvements anymore.

Disappointing. I was looking forward to this one Whyyyyy

 

[Shadow]

Just to log the info:

Its from a PSSDForum user:

I did another 5 doses subsequently (because it felt nice), so my experiment was 12 days on Ella (Ulipristal Acetate) at 7.5 mg.
very important: DURING the Metergoline cycle, which I'm still on.

I took my last dose of Ella two days ago, no change in my PSSD symptoms. I'm also not expecting any improvements anymore.

Disappointing. I was looking forward to this one Whyyyyy

Maybe too much time, too much of the drug... who knows
For all that we saw untill now, I dont think that longer periods or increased doses would benefit. For some reason it looks to be about cycling, induce small changes, its like making the body deal with these small changes until he "notices" the major mess and deal with it too, its just an analogy.

 

[mattyb]

Disappointing. I was looking forward to this one Whyyyyy

Why did you think the metergoline would help at all? If anything it's the type of substance that does not at all fit with the idea of contrarian endocrinology.

Is there even any information at all how Ella may interact with dopamine receptors?

 

[Shadow]

Disappointing. I was looking forward to this one Whyyyyy

Why did you think the metergoline would help at all? If anything it's the type of substance that does not at all fit with the idea of contrarian endocrinology.

Is there even any information at all how Ella may interact with dopamine receptors?

Matt, I think that the guy was on Metergoline because great portion of PSSD sufferers are more inclined to blame some of the monoamines as the PSSD culprits.

 

[Memento]

Re: CONNECTION LICORICE, INOSITOL, RU, ELLA, PROGESTERONE

<r><QUOTE author="jacknap" post_id="2848" time="1509126994" user_id="82"><s>

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carbonate is toxic apparently. checkout john gray talking about it on youtube. he's a huge oratate fan and pretty knowledgeable.<br/>

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First I thought that some dude with a youtube vid has zero credibility. Watched it, thought he was full of shit, but looked it up:<br/>
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<URL url="https://blogs.psychcentral.com/bipolar/2008/09/bipolar-disorder-medication-spotlight-lithium-orotate/"><LINK_TEXT text="https://blogs.psychcentral.com/bipolar/ ... m-orotate/">https://blogs.psychcentral.com/bipolar/2008/09/bipolar-disorder-medication-spotlight-lithium-orotate/</LINK_TEXT></URL><br/>
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<URL url="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.2042-7158.1978.tb13258.x/full"><LINK_TEXT text="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 258.x/full">http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.2042-7158.1978.tb13258.x/full</LINK_TEXT></URL><br/>
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<URL url="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1476-5381.1976.tb07449.x/full"><LINK_TEXT text="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 449.x/full">http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1476-5381.1976.tb07449.x/full</LINK_TEXT></URL><br/>
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<URL url="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF03160910?LI=true"><LINK_TEXT text="https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 10?LI=true">https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF03160910?LI=true</LINK_TEXT></URL><br/>
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So orotate might or might not be more bioavailable, no recent studies have been made. That toxicity report was interesting though. I think orotic acid might have its problems too with the amounts I am taking.</r>

 

[aztec]

Licorice root impact on estrogen and progesterone : http://drsusanshealthyliving.com/herbs-which-help-to-promote-progesterone-production-or-balance-estrogen-and-progesterone-licorice-root/

 

[expendable]

Licorice root impact on estrogen and progesterone : http://drsusanshealthyliving.com/herbs-which-help-to-promote-progesterone-production-or-balance-estrogen-and-progesterone-licorice-root/

http://www.medherb.com/Materia_Medica/Glycyrrhiza_-_Licorice_root_and_testosterone.htm

oh boy

 

[HerrFisch]

[mention]expendable[/mention]

"In a 1982 trial, eight anovulatory infertile women with elevated testosterone were investigated for lowering serum testosterone levels and inducing regular ovulation"

Are you an infertile woman with elevated testosterone levels ?

 

[barbaar]

[mention]expendable[/mention] [mention]aztec[/mention] raise prog, lower estrogen and test while on it -> lower prog, raise estrogen and test during snapback? Sounds like a really good thing, but I'm no gbolduev lol

 

[jacknap]

Re: CONNECTION LICORICE, INOSITOL, RU, ELLA, PROGESTERONE

<r><QUOTE author="Memento" post_id="2912" time="1509181425" user_id="1356"><s>

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<QUOTE author="jacknap" post_id="2848" time="1509126994" user_id="82"><s>

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carbonate is toxic apparently. checkout john gray talking about it on youtube. he's a huge oratate fan and pretty knowledgeable.<br/>

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First I thought that some dude with a youtube vid has zero credibility. Watched it, thought he was full of shit, but looked it up:<br/>
<br/>
<URL url="https://blogs.psychcentral.com/bipolar/2008/09/bipolar-disorder-medication-spotlight-lithium-orotate/"><LINK_TEXT text="https://blogs.psychcentral.com/bipolar/ ... m-orotate/">https://blogs.psychcentral.com/bipolar/2008/09/bipolar-disorder-medication-spotlight-lithium-orotate/</LINK_TEXT></URL><br/>
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<URL url="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.2042-7158.1978.tb13258.x/full"><LINK_TEXT text="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 258.x/full">http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.2042-7158.1978.tb13258.x/full</LINK_TEXT></URL><br/>
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<URL url="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1476-5381.1976.tb07449.x/full"><LINK_TEXT text="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 449.x/full">http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1476-5381.1976.tb07449.x/full</LINK_TEXT></URL><br/>
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<URL url="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF03160910?LI=true"><LINK_TEXT text="https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 10?LI=true">https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF03160910?LI=true</LINK_TEXT></URL><br/>
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So orotate might or might not be more bioavailable, no recent studies have been made. That toxicity report was interesting though. I think orotic acid might have its problems too with the amounts I am taking.
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so many people think John Gray is a quack. He's probably one of the most knowledgeable person on supplements alive today. He's been into it before it was every a trend.<br/>
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I too thought he was full of shit when I first saw him though cause he makes big claims lol.</r>

 

[TubZy]

I got a hold of Gbol today, he said the licorice increases progesterone since it tanks potassium, he also said he will try and come on tomm

 

[TubZy]

and he also said licorice acts on cortisol too

"licorice decreases cortisol to cortisone conversion this increases CORTISOL"

 

[Aleksandr]

Licorice root impact on estrogen and progesterone : http://drsusanshealthyliving.com/herbs-which-help-to-promote-progesterone-production-or-balance-estrogen-and-progesterone-licorice-root/

http://www.medherb.com/Materia_Medica/Glycyrrhiza_-_Licorice_root_and_testosterone.htm

oh boy

Im currently on a licorice root protocol.
I stopped reading after the first part lol. 7 grams licorce root a day??? Thats insane. No wonder they didnt keel over from hypertension.

Also they gave them this much 7 days in a row. Where are the measurements from snap back? There are none. Its supposed to make things worse temporarily according to gbolduev, then snap back better