Copper, the cure all??
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besides the religious talk, the bottom line is that according to this researcher it is copper that keeps the body's pH in perfect balance allowing humans to stay young looking and fully functional and live well beyond 100 years of age.
Interesting that genetically modified foods are designed to de-activate the little copper they (now) contain... I wonder why?...
also, refining grains/cereals removes copper, manganese and magnesium, ALL mandatory for autophagy (without fasting). You can have autophagy without fasting if you have enough copper, manganese, magnesium in the body. According to some researchers.
Interesting that genetically modified foods are designed to de-activate the little copper they (now) contain... I wonder why?...
also, refining grains/cereals removes copper, manganese and magnesium, ALL mandatory for autophagy (without fasting). You can have autophagy without fasting if you have enough copper, manganese, magnesium in the body. According to some researchers.
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People ate tons of copper on ray peat diet. Now look at where it took them. Copper should not be taken, diet has tons of it/. when people die, their livers are full of copper and iron, same as with all other animals. This is why you eat beef liver. full of copper
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After this article , of poisoning the mankind thing. I had 3 people go heavy on copper. Man oh man. Huge crash.
Copper should never be taken alone. it tanks thyroid . Helps people when they have low adrenaline creation, but kills those people later on.
YOu need to to digest b vitamin and protein, and ptoassium and magnesium for copper to work. Copper works only in fast metabolism.
this is why people that eat Ray peat Diet, all have sky high copper on hairtest. Since in low metabolism copper stays unavailable. in the liver.
And Ray peat gives people calcium tons of liver. etc. Slow oxidizers should not take copper. they should eat sea food. And increase their metabolism so they chelate copper from brain and liver.
this is why stress makes you copper toxic.
Copper should never be taken alone. it tanks thyroid . Helps people when they have low adrenaline creation, but kills those people later on.
YOu need to to digest b vitamin and protein, and ptoassium and magnesium for copper to work. Copper works only in fast metabolism.
this is why people that eat Ray peat Diet, all have sky high copper on hairtest. Since in low metabolism copper stays unavailable. in the liver.
And Ray peat gives people calcium tons of liver. etc. Slow oxidizers should not take copper. they should eat sea food. And increase their metabolism so they chelate copper from brain and liver.
this is why stress makes you copper toxic.
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Look at hairtests of Herrfish Raincoast. This is what happens when someone eat copper in slow oxidiation. You get IBS, you get colitis. You are screwed.
then it takes about 6 months to chelate this copper from brain and liver. And it is not pretty when you do it. Itgives sypmpoms.
I personally stayed for 6 months on zinc and manganese and at first had huge symptoms , when copper started to come out.
The best thing I did was to chelate it.
People with low adrenals feel a little bit better when they tank their metabolism with copper. Since copper tanks thyroid. and lowers thyroid demand for adrenaline.
Never take copper with low ceruloplasmin
When your adrenaline creation goes down, copper starts building up.
Look at hairtests of Herrfish Raincoast. This is what happens when someone eat copper in slow oxidiation. You get IBS, you get colitis. You are screwed.
then it takes about 6 months to chelate this copper from brain and liver. And it is not pretty when you do it. Itgives sypmpoms.
I personally stayed for 6 months on zinc and manganese and at first had huge symptoms , when copper started to come out.
The best thing I did was to chelate it.
People with low adrenals feel a little bit better when they tank their metabolism with copper. Since copper tanks thyroid. and lowers thyroid demand for adrenaline.
Never take copper with low ceruloplasmin
When your adrenaline creation goes down, copper starts building up.
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Is taking copper 2mg with potassium chloride alright? Copper has been the only mineral that has a positive impact on my energy levels, mood and libido.
When I was using R andro some days ago it killed my libido and erections.
Then I took copper and my voice deepened, confidence appeared with humour. I was feeling pretty good.
Then after some days after I took copper I felt I need to vomit! Was very close to throwing up.
What is your opinion of bioavailable Copper I supplement? They say its not toxic like Copper II, and 99% of the supplements are Copper II.
I believe with R andro and copper I would be very very closed to being cured if i dont develop vomiting and nausea from copper.
I had low copper on my hair test, I have PFS for almost 3 years now. The hair test is 1.5 years old though.
Since the vomiting feeling from copper, i have no desire to eat chocolate.
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It does not matter on what copper you took. Estrogen should be raised in fast metabolism, When metabolism is high , copper works.
When your metabolism is low and you take copper, your estrogen rises, this makes you feel things. But it kills thyroid, and then you want to throw up.
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So first you do the electrolyte protocol for a while and then you add in copper. Or can you start taking copper while doing the electrolyte protocol? What would be efficient?
@gbolduev interesting, a 100+ year old fully functional lady claimed she eats 100- 150 grams of chocolate per day, everyday all of her life... no wonder cacao is called the food of the gods...it also contains lots of manganese....
Thank you for the reply, yes i felt good on copper even without r andro. But the effects subside in a few days. Then i wait 1-2 weeks and copper gives me laughter again. To keep metabolism up all the time with copper, do you have any special ideas? How to prevent the thyorid killing?
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I would say use some suggestions from the electrolyte protocol like aminos + hcl + electrolytes.
I would say use some suggestions from the electrolyte protocol like aminos + hcl + electrolytes.
Im wating for my essential amino acids now.
Look at this guys, this is bioavailable and has vitamins to speed up metabolism(??)
MitoSynergy Advanced - MitoSynergy
This is copper 1, allegedly the only company who produces copper 1, all other are copper 2. Copper 1 is muuuch more bioavailable.
Opinion?
I for myself would not buy a copper supplement. But thats another story
Why not just use dark chocolate for example as gbolduev said its balanced copper with magnesium and potassium.
With this you probably will get better copper than in supplements?
I tried it before i took the copper supplement. Results are waaay different. I was eating 100g of dark chocolate. The copper alone was so much more potent, it made music playing in my head, give back some personality, voice dropped, things like these. Chocolate just made me feel somewhat better overall but never these specific improvements.