E COLI and PFS CFS

[supernature]

I still have the same suppl same brand, cant recall any + or - changes of my trials from taking it. If they support the fats then it might be beneficial for all those fat related areas: steroid pathway, in case of fatty liver, fat metabolism in general ect.

Edit: for ex after a meal when taken from the rest of the B's sometimes i get too 'tired' like low cortisol and sleepy, but never felt that effect from those particular B's. That might be a clue as well whether i needed them or not.

 

[Orion]

It's Now brand Choline & Inositol. I've used it before, and actually felt great on it for a period a few years back, but there was a reason why I stopped, but I can't remember.

I'm only just taking very small amounts of an opened capsule as I'm now very sensitive to any supplements, but hope to work up to a full cap (which is 250mg of each)

Cool, thanks. When last on it and feeling great, what do you think the positive effects were? sleep, digestion, etc?

Choline is one supp I never experimented with.

 

[tanedout]

Cool, thanks. When last on it and feeling great, what do you think the positive effects were? sleep, digestion, etc?

Choline is one supp I never experimented with.

It was better libido, less brain fog & just felt good in general.

Back then I didn’t have any issues with digestion or sleep though - for me these problems have only come on in the last few years, so I can’t say whether it might help those things

 

[mbax44]

Is there an issue taking Sam-e? That stuff always made me feel much much better. I see it thrown around here a lot. TMG treats me pretty well also but not to the extent Sam-e does. And when I take all the co factors to make Sam-e the effect is minimal.

 

[mbax44]

Also the choline/inositol combo worked well for me too.

 

[Orion]

It was better libido, less brain fog & just felt good in general.

Back then I didn’t have any issues with digestion or sleep though - for me these problems have only come on in the last few years, so I can’t say whether it might help those things

I think I will grab some and test it out, I think I still have a fat metabolism issues that is slowly going away, this could help.

 

[tanedout]

Is there an issue taking Sam-e? That stuff always made me feel much much better. I see it thrown around here a lot. TMG treats me pretty well also but not to the extent Sam-e does. And when I take all the co factors to make Sam-e the effect is minimal.

SAMe always makes me go back to this study - one of the few which actually discusses it in relation to isotretinoin (accutane) side effects

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/8b40/c436e6d6cf00f1eb7f68662962a3ae634749.pdf

 

[MCurtone]

You should all look into "high meat" aka, rotten, fermented meat. It's a super probiotic, with namely a lot of the good Ecoli. People consume this to treat their depression as it raises bacteria levels in the gut. I can attest to this myself.

It must be fresh, never frozen meat. No antibiotics, grass-fed or pastured. No vaccines. Then you ferment in a mason jar and air it for a few minutes every 2-3 days. After 2+ months, it is ready. The meat even becomes spicy when it goes long enough. Used it to cure my friends suicidal depression.

 

[RebelWithACause]

You should all look into "high meat" aka, rotten, fermented meat. It's a super probiotic, with namely a lot of the good Ecoli. People consume this to treat their depression as it raises bacteria levels in the gut. I can attest to this myself.

It must be fresh, never frozen meat. No antibiotics, grass-fed or pastured. No vaccines. Then you ferment in a mason jar and air it for a few minutes every 2-3 days. After 2+ months, it is ready. The meat even becomes spicy when it goes long enough. Used it to cure my friends suicidal depression.

You following Aajonus Vonderplanitz diet? That diet did help me with PFS side effects for a while but not fixed it sadly. Maybe you need to do it for long period as I only did it short. Never tried the high meat though. Just ate raw liver, raw ground beef, raw eggs and drank kefir, raw milk and raw honey lol. It was a tasty diet.

I don't know about Aajonus Vonderplanitz. He said salt is toxic. Had some weird ideas which makes me question his other believes as well. Including "high meat". Not sure if he is behind that though. I know he talked about it and people who follow him eat it.

What about the aldehydes in the fermented foods? That helps PFS right. Just like alcohol...

 

[MCurtone]

You following Aajonus Vonderplanitz diet? That diet did help me with PFS side effects for a while but not fixed it sadly. Maybe you need to do it for long period as I only did it short. Never tried the high meat though. Just ate raw liver, raw ground beef, raw eggs and drank kefir, raw milk and raw honey lol. It was a tasty diet.

I don't know about Aajonus Vonderplanitz. He said salt is toxic. Had some weird ideas which makes me question his other believes as well. Including "high meat". Not sure if he is behind that though. I know he talked about it and people who follow him eat it.

What about the aldehydes in the fermented foods? That helps PFS right. Just like alcohol...

Yeah, the primal diet is what I follow, except no plants at all. I do raw liver, raw steak, raw organs in general, sometimes raw eggs and lots of raw milk, kefir and raw honey. It's done wonders. I'm not fixed, but much much better.

I disagree with Aajonus in regards to salt. I think its good not bad, but takes time to adapt going no salt. Not sure about aldehydes. 2 years ago I tried water kefir and it gave me the worst brain fog/anhedonia I ever had which lasted weeks.

Raw Primal Diet
High Meat
GHB

All these things helped me get to where I am today...about 80% cured. Rest is a little CFS time to time, EMF sensitivity, Dietary intolerance and Cognitive issues like brain fog. Its been a long 3 years.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Yeah, the primal diet is what I follow, except no plants at all. I do raw liver, raw steak, raw organs in general, sometimes raw eggs and lots of raw milk, kefir and raw honey. It's done wonders. I'm not fixed, but much much better.

I disagree with Aajonus in regards to salt. I think its good not bad, but takes time to adapt going no salt. Not sure about aldehydes. 2 years ago I tried water kefir and it gave me the worst brain fog/anhedonia I ever had which lasted weeks.

Raw Primal Diet
High Meat
GHB

All these things helped me get to where I am today...about 80% cured. Rest is a little CFS time to time, EMF sensitivity, Dietary intolerance and Cognitive issues like brain fog. Its been a long 3 years.

Yea fermented foods contain aldehydes and some people in PFS do good on them.

Check this out, a post by Helen:

Aldehydes( alcohol, mold) just inhibit MAO and DAO enzymes. thus increase histamine,

thus we have 2 groups of people who cant tolerate alcohol at all, and who feel better on alcohol. and mold)) it does not rebalance anything. Actually in this case trying to increase histamine by inhibiting DAO will never get you out of PFS. Otherwise people can just booze and then get cured. but unfortunately 50% feel better after booze , but then feel worse . You are just stilting shit up. as usual. It is your nature. cialis, booze , mold. finasteride.