Electrolyte Protocol for Improved Health

Yura

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Aldosterone regulates sodium retention and is secreted in response to Angiotensin II, which is connected to Renin levels, which is dependent to Sodium in the diet. Low sodium - high Aldosterone.

The degradation of Aldosterone happens in the Liver i think.


Why you would want more SOD, the end product of SOD's is Hydrogen peroxide. I though you dont liked it much.
I don't know what you want to say by this? Sodium intake regulates aldosterone secretion. But this is the case for healthy individual. In my case this is not happening. Same with cortisol etc..
 

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Sorry I wanted to say "So it is like thyroids from animals =hormones. IF there were no hormones. How you think it would work???

I don't know exactly the details about these hormones and how they are made though I have a rough idea. A guy in the comment section at iherb, contacted Thorn and they claim the hormones are removed from the product. Maybe the guy in the comments is lying or Thorn is lying or doesn't know that there are still hormones in the product, it's a posibility. There is a thread over at RP forum where Ray Peat says that the adrenal cortex will regenerate if the building blocks are there, adrenal cortex would supply all the necessary building blocks in ready form. It's true the product has an immediate effect, if this is due to residual hormones then at least I can't imagine it's anywhere as strong or harmful as the synthetics the doctor would give you.
 

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I don't know exactly the details about these hormones and how they are made though I have a rough idea. A guy in the comment section at iherb, contacted Thorn and they claim the hormones are removed from the product. Maybe the guy in the comments is lying or Thorn is lying or doesn't know that there are still hormones in the product, it's a posibility. There is a thread over at RP forum where Ray Peat says that the adrenal cortex will regenerate if the building blocks are there, adrenal cortex would supply all the necessary building blocks in ready form. It's true the product has an immediate effect, if this is due to residual hormones then at least I can't imagine it's anywhere as strong or harmful as the synthetics the doctor would give you.
it is the same like thyroid armor. It works because it has hormones which you missing..
 

Yura

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So what? But there need to be some aldosterone lol. Like what is your problem?
 

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I don't know what you want to say by this? Sodium intake regulates aldosterone secretion. But this is the case for healthy individual. In my case this is not happening. Same with cortisol etc..
Too little Sodium/Salt intake leads to higher Serotonin as well - which of course we know is bad for adaptation and hormones.
J Hypertens. 1993 Dec;11(12):1381-6.
Effect of dietary salt restriction on urinary serotonin and 5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid excretion in man.
Sharma AM1, Schorr U, Thiede HM, Distler A.
Author information
Abstract

OBJECTIVE:
To determine the effect of dietary salt restriction on urinary excretion of serotonin and its principal metabolite 5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid (5-HIAA) in man.
DESIGN:
We studied 16 healthy male volunteers (age range 20-28 years) who ate a standard diet containing 20 mmol/day NaCl, to which either 220 mmol/day NaCl or placebo was added as a supplement for 1 week each, according to a randomized, single-blind crossover design.
METHODS:
Urinary excretion of serotonin, 5-HIAA, noradrenaline and vanillylmandelic acid (VMA) were measured during the low- and high-salt periods using reverse-phase high-performance liquid chromatography.
RESULTS:
During the low-salt diet, 24-h urinary excretion of serotonin increased by 42%, accompanied by a 52% rise in the excretion of 5-HIAA. Salt restriction also increased noradrenaline excretion by 77% and VMA excretion by 40%. Regression analysis revealed a strong positive relationship between the excretion of serotonin and of noradrenaline (r = 0.84, P < 0.001) and between that of 5-HIAA and of VMA (r = 0.74, P < 0.001).
CONCLUSIONS:
Salt restriction stimulates the serotonergic system in man. Stimulation of this system, in conjunction with the sympathetic nervous system, may contribute to renal sodium conservation during dietary salt restriction in man.
PMID: 7510737
[Indexed for MEDLINE]
 

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I tried the same thing except with out the resveratrol and didn’t notice anythin

On a side note I tried pqq at the same time and noticed some nerve regrowth in my hand were I had damaged a nerve.
Ok. It looks like NAD+ is not the same as NADH many are taking here.
 

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What is NAD/NADH anyway?
4. ANAEROBIC METABOLISM​

For those organisms or tissues that do not carry out aerobic (oxygen-dependent) metabolism, there is the problem of re-generating the oxidizing agent NAD+. For mammalian tissues such as muscle and red blood cells, and for some microorganisms such as lactic acid bacteria, the NADH is used to reduce pyruvate to lactate.

pyruvate + NADH ----> lactate + NAD+​
For other microorganisms the pyruvate can be further oxidized to acetaldehyde which can then be reduced by NADH to a number of different products depending on the particular organism. Ethanol-producing yeast and bacteria, reduce acetaldehyde:

  1. Pyruvate decarboxylase (thiamine pyrophosphate enzyme similar to pyruvate dehydrogenase):
  2. pyruvate ----> acetaldehyde + CO2​
  3. Alcohol dehydrogenase: acetaldehyde + NADH ----> ethanol + NAD+
For mammals, the acetaldehyde, which is very toxic, must be further oxidized to acetic acid.
 

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@Yura i bought a liquid five liter 10% HCL ... i add 5- 10 drops in 125- 250ml distilled water and drink half during meal and half right after meal... some people use 35% HCL, same protocol LOL.. im not that hard core

re: salt.. I would only buy sun driet grey wet celtic sea salt. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Guerandais...F8&qid=1521308011&sr=8-9&keywords=celtic+salt
Did you have symptoms from taking HCL drops in the water like headache, feeling like you will throw up? Also weird feeling/taste in my mouth. Especially in the back where tonsils are and also more saliva.. I think that those are symptoms like HCL is washing lymphatic system especially. I was reading a lot about Hydrochloric acid therapy and they are talking about me all the time basically lol.I have very clogged lymphatic system. They are talking about undigested proteins, but also iron stored in the lymph. Interesting.. They also talk about how potassium is necessary for HCL production and how effective and powerful is taking HCL with potassium salts.. But I am not sure if potassium will benefit me since I am very dehydrated all the time = my sodium in the body must be low.. But I will try HCL with potassium chloride anyway...
Three years of Hydrochloric Acid Therapy
Hydrochloric Acid Therapy
Acid Mineral Chlorides in Treatment
Toxemia and Alkalosis Treatment with Hydrochloric acid--1935
The Conquest of Cancer--1935
Relation of Iron to Neoplastic Disease (Cancer)
Hydrochloric acid (HCl) Therapy for Infections and Tuberculosis
The Use of Hydrochloric Acid in Hodgkins Disease
Dilute hydrochloric acid intravenously and intramuscularly (1935)
 
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Did you have symptoms from taking HCL drops in the water like headache, feeling like you will throw up? Also weird feeling/taste in my mouth. Especially in the back where tonsils are and also more saliva.. I think that those are symptoms like HCL is washing lymphatic system especially. I was reading a lot about Hydrochloric acid therapy and they are talking about me all the time basically lol.I have very clogged lymphatic system. They are talking about undigested proteins, but also iron stored in the lymph. Interesting.. They also talk about how potassium is necessary for HCL production and how effective and powerful is taking HCL with potassium salts.. But I am not sure if potassium will benefit me since I am very dehydrated all the time = my sodium in the body must be low.. But I will try HCL with potassium chloride anyway...
Three years of Hydrochloric Acid Therapy
Hydrochloric Acid Therapy
Acid Mineral Chlorides in Treatment
Toxemia and Alkalosis Treatment with Hydrochloric acid--1935
The Conquest of Cancer--1935
Relation of Iron to Neoplastic Disease (Cancer)
Hydrochloric acid (HCl) Therapy for Infections and Tuberculosis
The Use of Hydrochloric Acid in Hodgkins Disease
Dilute hydrochloric acid intravenously and intramuscularly (1935)

@Yura if i had access to sea/ocean... i would dry fast(DF) for as long as possible and also soak in the sea/ocean for as long as possible during the DF. This will balance out everything IMO. @gbolduev DF-ed 3 times for 20 days(each time)...

I dont know about the details about his DF(e.g. did he have daily enemas, did he soak/swim in ocean/sea during the DF, was he active or at total bed rest during the DF etc.)

I also dont know if both low volume and high volume people are allowed to soak in the ocean/sea while DF-ing...

@gbolduev does dry fasting fix mutations?