Electrolyte Protocol for Improved Health

[Helen]

so one can fix stomach acid problems without HCL supplements? just by drinking 2 x 16 oz celery juice and eat nutrient rich foods(fish, meat, liver, spinach kale etc.)?

or by fasting 3- 7 days on the greens soup and on the 8th day transition to a normal whole food diet?

or by fasting on raw eggs?

This is why I said to fast on Breuss, and then eat.

but for some people it won't be enough.

 

[Helen]

@gbolduev wouldnt the raw egg fast be the most effective in restoring stomach acid and health?

whole eggs contain all the aminos, fats, minerals, vitamins, pure water we need... the guy claims that room temperature whole raw eggs dont require stomach acid to be digested, this is why is so healing, it provides the raw building materials directly to the body to clean it and rebuild it, including stomach acid

It does require stomach acid to be digested. but much less.

 

[Helen]

I fasted on raw egg, whole and egg whites. I like eggs whites better. But you can eat the whole if you want. Fasting increases stomach acid on its own. so fasting on liquids absorbs more of cource. Since you go in acidosis while fasting.

 

[Helen]

so raw egg fast is the way to go?

I dont know why you are looking for unbalanced ways. How is fasting going to put potassium up? how is fasting going to increase your amino acids. Eggs will increase your histamine and acid secretion yes. That is why I recommend it.

I wrote the protocol on the first page. Read it , it is all there. I don't have time to discuss ways around it. this is a protocol for people to live on , You can't live on egg fast.))

If you want to implement a fast on eggs. I dont know what it will achieve. I say to eat raw eggs daily, Why fast and lose amino acids LOL

 

[mattyb]

@mattyb how about soaking in magnesium chloride and potassium chloride in a hot bath tube or just hot foot soak? this would bypass the GI tract and enter the bloodstream directly??? would this raise stomach acid without taking HCL powder?

i read about a doctor's method of healing people, he would fast them 3- 7 days on a potassium rich cream soup composed of zucchini, celery, parsley and string beans... after this fast he would prescribe a whole food diet made at home everything from scratch (like our grandparents did), whole grains/cereals, raw meat, raw eggs, raw milk, fruits, veggies, tubers etc... this cured 1000s of people from deathly diseases... maybe the chlorides and magnesium and potassium from the greens started to create stomach acid... any thoughts about this @gbolduev ??

Yes, you can absorb topically for sure. The concentration of the salts need to be very high though, higher than the body - so that means adding a ton of salts on par with ocean salts. That way it the osmotic pressure will carry the minerals through the skin instead of from the skin and into the water.

And yes, that diet sounds very similar.

@gbolduev another thing I read that is best for creating stomach acid is to drink 16 oz fresh celery juice first thing in the morning on EMPTY stomach and another 16 oz, 12 hours later on empty stomach(30 min before food or 2 hours after food)... the guy claims it is THE BEST way to raise stomach acid because it contains the exact minerals the body needs to create stomach acid
here u can read the guy's article about celery raising stomach acid: Healing Power of Celery

Celery Juice


another healer told me that the best way to heal is to fast 3- 4 days on distilled water and transition into a whole raw egg fast, he says raw eggs contains all nutrients we need in a balanced way .. he recommends 30- 60 raw eggs per day, depending on how fast do u want to heal, the more you eat the faster you heal, he claims... i wonder if eggs contain chloride...

but what do u think about foot or whole body soak in potassium chloride and magnesium chloride? maybe 1 kg KCh with 400g MgCh in a full bath tube, soaking for 30- 60 minutes?

Celery is very high in chloride as well. It's chloride to sodium ratio is super high, one of the highest of all foods. I think it's like 15:1 or something like that. I often add celery to my juices. But the problem is finding high quality celery. I don't have a good local source so I don't use it as much as I would like to. But I have access to good quality spinach and lettuces, so I eat a lot of those because their ratio is about as good as celery.

Eggs do not have that much chloride in them. Their chloride to sodium ratio isn't that high, I think it's like 3:2. Most animal products don't have a great ratio. What eggs do provide is high quality protein (lots of cysteine), a good balance of fat and protein, and tons of vitamins/minerals - especially the B-vitamins and selenium.

 

[Helen]

@mattyb , you need to mention to him that is not about chloride , it is about hydrogen or hydronium .

What do you think about that Lordes water..

 

[Helen]

why wouldn't fasting on raw eggs put potassium up? 30 raw eggs per day gives u 2000mg potassium(plus other cofactors, fats, aminos)?

I wrote out all in the protocol, Anything what you are saying is in the protocol. You can do whatever you want . fast on eggs, on celery , etc. It is up to you.
I see no reason to fast on them if you just can eat them

 

[Helen]

if its about hydrogen, why not take this?: MegaHydrate (The Updated Microhydrin) £31.96 from The Finchley Clinic

Why not just take HCL for 5 bux LOL

PS. Dont use hydrogen pills or sticks.

 

[mattyb]

@mattyb , you need to mention to him that is not about chloride , it is about hydrogen or hydronium .

What do you think about that Lordes water..

Yes, the H+ in HCl is super important @Legna88 . Just take HCl. You can do something with vegetables like celery and greens as well, but you'll need a source of hydrogen to go along with it. I used ACV. gbold has suggested malic acid. Lysine HCl can work too. Fasting will raise acidity. Lots of H+ sources out there, just gotta pick one.

I've never heard of Lordes water until now!

 

[Helen]

@mattyb

bought myself Lorders water machine LOL

 

[mattyb]

@mattyb

bought myself Lorders water machine LOL

OHHH okay, so Lorders water is just hydrogen low-pH water? Yeah, I've seen those before. I actually had a russian girl at our farmers market try and sell me one LOL. She had no idea what it really was but she was just like (in broken english) "water keep me strong. will make man strong" and then she flexed her arm.

The Japanese have those Kangen water machines that use electrolysis to separate water into different pHs. So one machine will produce waters and various pHs all at once.

If I had money to burn in my pocket I would probably try out some version of this.

 

[Helen]

OHHH okay, so Lorders water is just hydrogen low-pH water? Yeah, I've seen those before. I actually had a russian girl at our farmers market try and sell me one LOL. She had no idea what it really was but she was just like (in broken english) "water keep me strong. will make man strong" and then she flexed her arm.

The Japanese have those Kangen water machines that use electrolysis to separate water into different pHs. So one machine will produce waters and various pHs all at once.

If I had money to burn in my pocket I would probably try out some version of this.

Lordes water is water from a place in France .there is a huge line of people to drink it , It has really high levels of hydrogen gas plus really high levels of minerals. they get cured from everything. cancers, etc.

Basically it is like sitting at the sea and let the waves hit you. I love that stuff.

Lordes machine is just some machine that makes hydrogen water. they called it lordes after that french spot

Japanese are really into this hydrogen water.

 

[Legna88]

For those in the UK or EU, this is the cheapest and cleanest Betaine HCL Powder

 

[supernature]

I had to get up and throw up, not acid.
What i vomited is NOT ACID. It did not burn me at all.

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[health]

@Legna88
I have a feeling that it's been simplified to it's core a 1000 times. Gbolduev has limited time and it's much better, if he could spend it on research than on responding to things he already responded to in the very same topic. Nothing personal;') I feel your pain as you wouldn't be here if you were healthy. Wish you all best results!

 

[TubZy]

I though i was the only one experiencing strange reaction after betaine HCl + pepsin tablet. Same bloated and dizzy feeling for hours, probably diluting further the existing stomach acid.

What did you take it with?

 

[supernature]

What did you take it with?

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[TubZy]

Hard to remember exactly, was like 1-1.5 yrs ago, but it should have been after food and im thinking if i havent had little ACV as seasoning, not really sure about the latter. And that effect lasting for hours was after just 1 tab.

OK, because taking betaine HCL alone (with no potassium chloride) messes me up. I get super cold.

 

[supernature]

OK, because taking betaine HCL alone (with no potassium chloride) messes me up. I get super cold.

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[artemis]

The Japanese have those Kangen water machines that use electrolysis to separate water into different pHs. So one machine will produce waters and various pHs all at once.

If I had money to burn in my pocket I would probably try out some version of this.

It's funny you mention this, because I just got an invitation from a friend to go to a party (or a "presentation") about the Kangen water machine at her house next week. I wasn't planning on going, but maybe I will go check it out. Sounds like I'll probably be parting with some of my money if I go, though. Here's the invitation, what they say about it: