Elisions Health Log

[Elision]

Hi everyone,

I'm starting a log to keep track of my results, diet changes, supplements and how I'm generally going. Would love any feedback if anyone has anything to say.

I've attached copies of both my blood and hair results from this year for reference

Why I'm here
Testing for started last year after having symptoms of indigestion, bloating, pain and a lump on my lower left abdomen that turned out to be a complex ovarian cyst roughly the size of a tennis ball. After results came back I want on a protocol of proteolytic enzymes, Immunoven, Aloe Vera and Estroblock, and after a couple of months the cyst was gone and the pain went away.

Now I'm looking to address this feeling of constant exhaustion, anxiety/mood swings and blood in stools. EDIT* About two weeks ago I noticed I have lost two patches on hair on my head, which is what prompted me to check cortisol levels

@Helen @mattyb @m_arch

 

[Elision]

My tests so far show chronic low ferritin, which I've tried (along with the help of a practitioner) to increase via diet/supplements (iron/copper/molybdenum) but the highest I've gotten to is 48, so I'm booked for an infusion now.

Blood results also show high SHBG and borderline low cortisol.

My first hair tests showed me to be in a four lows pattern. After this I started supplementing with K/Mg/Cu, plus making sure I was generally getting RDI on cronometer. Second test my magnesium came up, moving me into three lows. I still haven't been able to kick the coffee habit though..

 

[HerrFisch]

My tests so far show chronic low ferritin, which I've tried (along with the help of a practitioner) to increase via diet/supplements (iron/copper/molybdenum) but the highest I've gotten to is 48, so I'm booked for an infusion now.

Blood results also show high SHBG and borderline low cortisol.

My first hair tests showed me to be in a four lows pattern. After this I started supplementing with K/Mg/Cu, plus making sure I was generally getting RDI on cronometer. Second test my magnesium came up, moving me into three lows. I still haven't been able to kick the coffee habit though..

How much K Mg and Cu did you take a day?
Asking cause your K didnt really change at all.

 

[Elision]

@HerrFisch

2000mg Potassium Bicarb (divided doses over the day)
600mg Mag Chlor (also divided)
2mg Copper Glycinate once a day
This protocol was done after the first test around Nov '17 until Feb '18

I have also been on a B complex for some time now

 

[HerrFisch]

What made you decide for those things instead of following the recommendations from the Hairtest company?

Not sure if you know, but Potassium Bicarbonate is ~39% K. So you got 790mg of Potassium with your 2g of Potassium Bicarb.
Did you feel better or changes while being on those supplements ?

What is you diet like, do you eat a lot of meat ?

 

[Elision]

To be honest, having my hair fall out really freaked me out. I know my hair test said I was in a real state of exhaustion, but I have been hesitant to really believe it. So I've just kept pushing along, keeping myself going with coffee, skipping breakfast, always finding things to do. But slowly slowly it's becoming more and more obvious that something is really going on here.

So what am I going to do about it? This is my PLAN
Stop the coffee
Hit RDI's and eat enough protein
Get iron infusion
Go to bed around same time, and wake same time every day (9-5:30)
Nap sometimes if possible
Try to stop pushing so hard
Don't skip meals
Continue on current supps (I take GABA, l-Theanine, B-Complex, 100mg Mag and 15mg Lith Orotate) I don't want to stop these, lest I turn into a banshee woman

What else am I considering?
Potassium supps also (intake is often lower than should be)
Also stopping tea
Electrolyte drink?
Interclinical labs supps for slow metaboliser
Why is my SHBG high? Is my free testosterone low? What can I do about this? I was on the contraceptive pill for many years, could this have contributed?
And I would still like to know why my iron is forever low. Is there something I'm missing?

 

[Elision]

What made you decide for those things instead of following the recommendations from the Hairtest company?

Not sure if you know, but Potassium Bicarbonate is ~39% K. So you got 790mg of Potassium with your 2g of Potassium Bicarb.
Did you feel better or changes while being on those supplements ?

What is you diet like, do you eat a lot of meat ?

@HerrFisch

I'm pretty sure the 2000mg Potassium was the elemental potassium, not the bicarb weight. And I took this because helen talked about this combination being helpful for fast oxidisers (my first hair test said I was a fast 4), and my practitioner at the time agreed it was an ok set to be on

Re diet, I eat red meat once a day, and sometimes chicken or fish. I don't eat large amounts though (maybe 100g or so)
I eat a lot of veg, some eggs, some cheese/milk

 

[Goose12]

To be honest, having my hair fall out really freaked me out. I know my hair test said I was in a real state of exhaustion, but I have been hesitant to really believe it. So I've just kept pushing along, keeping myself going with coffee, skipping breakfast, always finding things to do. But slowly slowly it's becoming more and more obvious that something is really going on here.

So what am I going to do about it? This is my PLAN
Stop the coffee
Hit RDI's and eat enough protein
Get iron infusion
Go to bed around same time, and wake same time every day (9-5:30)
Nap sometimes if possible
Try to stop pushing so hard
Don't skip meals
Continue on current supps (I take GABA, l-Theanine, B-Complex, 100mg Mag and 15mg Lith Orotate) I don't want to stop these, lest I turn into a banshee woman

What else am I considering?
Potassium supps also (intake is often lower than should be)
Also stopping tea
Electrolyte drink?
Interclinical labs supps for slow metaboliser
Why is my SHBG high? Is my free testosterone low? What can I do about this? I was on the contraceptive pill for many years, could this have contributed?
And I would still like to know why my iron is forever low. Is there something I'm missing?

Just take the recommended supps from tei. You can see on here that others are having success following tei's program.

 

[Elision]

I was never given supplement recommendations from TEI and the practitioner I was seeing is no longer available

 

[TubZy]

I was never given supplement recommendations from TEI and the practitioner I was seeing is no longer available

Did you check off option 2 on the form?

 

[Elision]

@Boris

As far as I was aware the supplement recommendations were only given via a practitioner and she wasn't a fan of using their supplements, so we didn't select that option

 

[TubZy]

@Boris

As far as I was aware the supplement recommendations were only given via a practitioner and she wasn't a fan of using their supplements, so we didn't select that option

OK. Check out this section and read the threads. We have a pract. that works with us easily here. Her contact info is in the first thread if you are down to go though TEI.
https://hackstasis.com/forums/approved-protocols.98/

 

[Elision]

OK. Check out this section and read the threads. We have a pract. that works with us easily here. Her contact info is in the first thread if you are down to go though TEI.
https://hackstasis.com/forums/approved-protocols.98/

@Boris Thanks for the info. I have contacted a practitioner and will see what supps they recommend.

In the meantime

1000mg Iron infusion today. Mostly feeling fine, kinda achy and tired this afternoon. Day 2 of no coffee and no alcohol. Not even really missing the coffee, but missing the idea of not being able to have a beer in the evening.

Will retest for iron and cortisol in 6 weeks.

 

[Elision]

Note to self - Try Lysine and Vit C for stabilizing iron

 

[Elision]

Woah. That iron infusion did not go down well with me. Terrible flu like symptoms - 3rd day aching all over, fever/chills, exhausted. Not keen to do that again.

Symptoms this morning
(fever, aches and exhaustion mostly over now)
- mood ok, a little down
- energy levels ok, little tired
- constipated. Supposedly the iron infusion can make this work, so I may have some senna tea today
- sore chest and abdomen area

I spoke with another HTMA practitioner about my hair tests etc. I'm still waiting for the written report with proper recommendations but this it is so far

- No more B Complex
- No more lithium orotate
- Eat more foods high in B1 and Iron
- Avoid fish in general (my test shows mercury elimination)
- Avoid eating much calcium
- Supplement Interclinicals Vit E with Selenium
- Eat 40% protein 40% carbs 20% fat

I'm still doing ok avoiding coffee, too much tea and alcohol (just one day where I had coffee and beer)

The only thing I find difficult out of all that is the diet. How does one get 40% protein? Is anyone doing this that can share their meal plan with me?

 

[MNK99]

40 50 and 60% protein is easy with keto or near keto diets... and adding whey post exercise. I ate like 260cals yesterday (cutting, 3400 or so day before, alternate day fasting), and that was 60-70% protein. A shake, with spinach, cacao, some almond milk coffee creamer (it was around), almond milk, tiny bit of blueberries. 45 g of protein.
-I literally ate nearly nothing and it was all protein.

 

[Elision]

40 50 and 60% protein is easy with keto or near keto diets... and adding whey post exercise. I ate like 260cals yesterday (cutting, 3400 or so day before, alternate day fasting), and that was 60-70% protein. A shake, with spinach, cacao, some almond milk coffee creamer (it was around), almond milk, tiny bit of blueberries. 45 g of protein.
-I literally ate nearly nothing and it was all protein.

@MNK99 Thanks for your reply. I tried putting your smoothie suggestion into Cronometer and it only sat at around 25g protein. Where is the 45g coming from? Is it just protein powder?

I think the tricky part for me is making it edible, and keeping the ratios right 40protein40carb20fat (keto/atkins don't really work, because they're both low carb)


Todays update
- Working towards eating with the right ratios, had tons of veg (carrot, spinach, celery, green peas, mushrooms, broccoli) meat, and a little quinoa and rice yesterday. Felt pretty bloated all day
- Was very jittery in the AM, went home to sleep at 12:30
- Impatiently waiting for the report my new practitioner for supplement suggestions

 

[Aleksandr]

40 50 and 60% protein is easy with keto or near keto diets... and adding whey post exercise. I ate like 260cals yesterday (cutting, 3400 or so day before, alternate day fasting), and that was 60-70% protein. A shake, with spinach, cacao, some almond milk coffee creamer (it was around), almond milk, tiny bit of blueberries. 45 g of protein.
-I literally ate nearly nothing and it was all protein.

40, 50, 60% protein diets are not keto

 

[MNK99]

I know this. Wrote in a rush.
The main point is, it's actually really easy to increase protein. And I did keto, vegan, no food, etc - all this year pretty strict to get better. Different diets different times.

I realize that's not keto... I kind of went from like 40 percent fat to like 17 in months In teens.


I know everyone has their own definition in this post gender, and post reasoning world. But keto diets are usually moderate protein, high fat, low carb right? The point is to run on fat for fuel rather than carbs. Disregard whatever I said about keto. All I know is severely dumbed down because it's not appreciated anyways. Ask Omi on discord.

I mean if you eat meat and no carbs it will be exactly that. I expect anyone to do their own research.

No offense March, probably payback for the English corrections haha. Mostly yeah eat steak spinach eggs veggies fibrous veggies and fats ... If you want.

I can barely read this on my phone I'll edit later.

 

[Elision]

Update*

Supplement recommendations are in
- Para-pack
- Vit E with Selenium
- Calcium plus
- Adrenal Complex
- HCL Plus
- Acidophillis

Plus eat a higher protein diet.

Symptoms
- Dandruff is bothering me a lot. I don't know if it's possibly getting worse now that I'm eating less fat.
- Hair loss has stayed the same, nothing more lost, but I don't see it growing back
- Emotions. I'm feeling more volatile again for sure, but am waiting it out a little longer.
- Digestion. Very regular, but getting lots of bloating. Only slight/occasional bleeding now
- My energy levels are definitely picking up, finding it easy to get up in the morning. Still feeling tight in my body, but much less than I was on the weekend

Diet in looking something like this

Morning
6am Chai with no black tea (still having milk though)
7:30am Breakfast of red meat, 2 cups mixed cooked veggies (cabbage, onion, green peas, mushroom, broccoli) cooked with less than 1tsp fat, small amount millet/quinoa

Lunch
Red meat, 2 cups mixed cooked veggies (cabbage, onion, green peas, mushroom, broccoli) cooked with less than 1tsp fat, small amount millet/quinoa
250ml Orange Juice
1 Brazil Nut

Dinner
Red meat (or maybe chicken), 2 cups mixed cooked veggies (cabbage, onion, green peas, mushroom, broccoli) cooked with less than 1tsp fat, small amount millet/quinoa

I'm also going to add in some sundried tomatoes, because they taste good and are high in potassium.
Finding I can generally hit the 40% protein 40% carb 20% fat like this. And kangaroo meat is an awesome addition, very lean, very high in iron.