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Yura

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Adrmiral and orion are doing it. I don't know if orion is visiting this forum anymore.. Who knows what that mix of stuff is doing in the body. Only time will tell..
I would do it 8 years ago when my health was not so bad. Now I think it could kill me lol.
 

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Anyone have experience with this HG7-protocol to get copper to work?
I think if you're copper toxic then its good, but if you're more iron toxic like me then it doesn't work really. And the guys not getting copper working, he's getting zinc working, you completely shut down copper metabolism when taking those doses of zinc and molybdenum. I do agree with what the guy says though, we all have too much iron and copper in the body which is blocking our zinc from working.
 

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@Fazed22 But why the fuck he is not dead from low bioavailable copper? It is insane to me.. We need to see his blood work..
 

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@Fazed22 But why the fuck he is not dead from low bioavailable copper? It is insane to me.. We need to see his blood work..
I mean lots of people don't have bioavailable copper and do fine. Helen said ceruloplasmin can only be ran in fast oxidation, all the people in here who are constantly negative and complaining the whole time don't have bioavailable copper... If they did then they would be way more positive and happy with life instead of complaining about everything. Also it might be that once you do replace your copper and iron stores with enough zinc that there might not be as much need for copper, but basically no one gets to that point because we all have too many heavy metals/iron and copper blocking our zinc from working properly.

- Here this guy says we are all deficient in zinc

Also another thing about the Heisenberg guy is he is a pot and tobacco smoker, which means he will be toxic in cadmium and that messes up your glutathione and stops your copper from working, so that could be why he doesn't like the feeling of copper at all. He is also eating fast food with seed oils and crap so copper can't work properly and becomes harmful when fats like seed oils are consumed.


One last thing if your body has enough copper to release from taking the b6, egcg and vit c then you won't feel bad from taking those high doses of molybdenum and zinc you will feel good from them.
 

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I asked that guy he recommend I should take copper with zinc if my sodium/potassium ratio is low.. I will probably do it once I see new hair test..
 

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I think if you're copper toxic then its good, but if you're more iron toxic like me then it doesn't work really. And the guys not getting copper working, he's getting zinc working, you completely shut down copper metabolism when taking those doses of zinc and molybdenum. I do agree with what the guy says though, we all have too much iron and copper in the body which is blocking our zinc from working.
I have all the signs of high copper he talks about, extremely childish face, im 35 and look like a child. Weak beard ect. According to hair test i also have hidden copper toxicity

Ive ordered the stuff for HG7 now, gonna give it a try, if it fails i will go on TEI like i planned to do
 

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@esp90 great keep us updated. I have no balls to try it. But I actually don't even have enough money. You eat whole bottles within days lol.
 

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@esp90 great keep us updated. I have no balls to try it. But I actually don't even have enough money. You eat whole bottles within days lol.
I will. I have to say it would be interesting to hear Helens take on this HG7 protocol.

But does it not make sense that this protocol would work well for slow oxidizers but could actually harm fast oxidizers who actually need copper?

Also, the inventor of the protocol seems to believe it should work for everyone, he also seems immature, easily triggered and offended, kinda reminds me of Helen actually lmao.

But i have calcium shell so this should do me good, lets see....
 

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@esp90 hehe who you think make those comments under the video that the EGCG is bidning to that zinc in the stomach and that's why he can take so much without any issues.. :D
I think Helen would say that it is incomplete protocol for slow oxidizers to remove iron/copper..
I think it is impossible to not create some imbalance by taking just those 6 essential micronutrients in so high doses for long period of the time..
I think taking stuff according to hair test makes much more sense than this.. We know our needs are changing constantly. Just taking the same stuff for years all the time and expect to be balanced is crazy thinking..
You can't trust that Jacob guy.. Think about it. That protocol is his everything. Feeling like failure his whole life and now he is the godfather of Holy grail 7 protocol. The protocol that can do miracles for people. I mean do you think he will ever admit that it is not perfect or even wrong or whatever? No way he would rather cut his arm off to protect his baby his legacy...
 
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Who is that Jiri guy, I saw him on low vit A forum, he seems to be reasonable. Is he here on this forum too?

Yeah for someone who claims to have been cured he does seem very unbalanced emotionally. I dont know what to do, I have ordered everything for the HG7 protocol and im also waiting for hairtest results to come. If I start HG7 protocol thr hairtest will useless interms of knowing what i need from a mineral analasys standpoint.

That Jakob guy claims his hair has gotten thicker, his girlfriend has gotten good results too, but whats the success-rate of this protocol anyway? Also, people seem to get scary side-effects and constantly need to monitor, if you are not sensitive it can be difficult to know what you need and not need. The TEI protocol does not have this issue, you just do the protocol, if you feel bad you just know its detox and its meant to be this way. Man im lost, dont know what to do.
 

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That's me lol

Btw I don't know what is your deal. YOu don't have severe health issues just look young not fully developed?
I would do HTMA and follow program. Eat good diet red meat, eggs. No junk, no instant dopamine. No porn no focus on sexual bullshit. Challenge your body. If you are not active you have to start lifting, doing hard manual labor job.. Be more outside, grounding, sun, water.. There is nothing more than this that you can do to be more balanced..
Balancing elements in the body is important, but pills alone will not do anything for you. Unfortunately for me I can't do those thing with my physically fucked up body.
Don't sit around and wait until you can't do those things as well..
 
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That's me lol

Btw I don't know what is your deal. YOu don't have severe health issues just look young not fully developed?
I would do HTMA and follow program. Eat good diet red meat, eggs. No junk, no instant dopamine. No porn no focus on sexual bullshit. Challenge your body. If you are not active you have to start lifting, doing hard manual labor job.. Be more outside, grounding, sun, water.. There is nothing more than this that you can do to be more balanced..
Balancing elements in the body is important, but pills alone will not do anything for you. Unfortunately for me I can't do those thing with my physically fucked up body.
Don't sit around and wait until you can't do those things as well..
Lmao ok, he said you have a blog?
He seems very defensive in the youtube comments, its so off-putting and makes me not want to try his protocol lol

Yeah the symptoms i have you can find first page of this log, im functional but some irritating symptoms which stops me from living my life. The worst symptom is the constant not-food-related bloating. Its what people with POIS describe too.
 

Yura

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I don't know what he was talking about. Yeah crazy defensive. Like I said the protocol is his child LOL..
Like I said stop with the sexual stuff.. Focus on your general health and sexual stuff will come if you get better and even after hat I would do sexual stuff only if I had partner that I love. No point in porn or chasing some one night deal or whatever. IT will just create problems. Most people use sex just as escape/cope. It is the same stuff like any other addiction.. IT is great when you have a partner, but if not stop focusing on it. Focus on howto become hard to kill bastard hehe..
 

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I was playing PC games my whole life till late at night/morning. We were playing nonstop on weekends all night.. Great escape from reality. Better than drugs.. But late night is bad the worst for adrenals.. 10 pm in bed is a must bro..
 
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This cant be true, 19 out of 20 cured their MPB with those nutrients?
 

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@esp90
Well
"This double-blind, placebo-controlled study assessed the ability of MPS to promote terminal hair growth in adult women with self-perceived thinning hair associated with poor diet, stress, hormonal influences, or abnormal menstrual cycles. "

So if they were eating hardly any protein and/or they couldn't even digest it if they were eating some meat or legumes or whatever. It makes sense that easy to digest collagen would help their hair..

Plenty of people had crazy transformation for example after they stopped with stupid vegan diets low i easy to diges proteins and started eating animal foods again..
But that is not the case for guys who are already bald in 20yo and have a good diet obviously hehe..
 

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it lowers iron right? so lowers nitric oxide
Dude, I cant find any info on magnesium lowering Iron? Where did you get that from? I got hairloss from magnesium... it also got worse when donating blood (loosing iron).. but cant find info on how magnesium lowers iron, google even says it helps iron absorption lol
 

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Dude, I cant find any info on magnesium lowering Iron? Where did you get that from? I got hairloss from magnesium... it also got worse when donating blood (loosing iron).. but cant find info on how magnesium lowers iron, google even says it helps iron absorption lol

Helen said it puts pressure on iron. Maybe because it increases cortisol, same for potassium. Things that speed up metabolism probably increase pressure on iron (it's used more). So if you are lower on iron and then take magnesium you need more iron and if you don't eat it or absorb it you get low nitric oxide. This is a very simple potential non scientific explaination
 

Yura

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Helen said it puts pressure on iron. Maybe because it increases cortisol, same for potassium. Things that speed up metabolism probably increase pressure on iron (it's used more). So if you are lower on iron and then take magnesium you need more iron and if you don't eat it or absorb it you get low nitric oxide. This is a very simple potential non scientific explaination
how your body "uses up" iron more? It gets recycled. There is hardly any iron loss happening.. If you don't bleed and you eat iron you can't be iron deficient period..