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Fazed22

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@Fazed22 ah I see. So if someone is fast fast oxidizer and runs low in copper taking shit loads of copper antagonists will make him better? How so?
And simply if you are running low on copper then you can just do lower molybdenum thats what I did when i wasn't mobilising my copper properly
 

Fazed22

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SYMTHYMO (metabolisk support) 1 A 1
KALCIUMPLUS 1 O 1
MAGNESIUMPLUS 1 o 1
KOPPARPLUS 1 1 2
DIGESTZYM 2 2 2
VITAMIN E PLUS 1 ◦ 1
The thing about loading up with all this copper is it just goes all to the liver mostly, so then at some point in the future you would then have to detox all that copper
 

esp90

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The thing about loading up with all this copper is it just goes all to the liver mostly, so then at some point in the future you would then have to detox all that copper
I think TEI consider some not ready to detox yet so they slow them down before they speed them up, im sure they have their reasons, also i did felt better on that cycle where I took copper, look at my log on first page, I got alot better, but i was losing hair and freaked out about it.
 
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Fazed22

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I think TEI consider some not ready to detox yet so they slow them down before they speed them up, im sure they have their reasons, also i did felt better on that cycle where I took copper, look at my log on first page, I got alot better, but i was losing hair and freaked out about it.
Thats not true whenever I have four lows or three lows pattern they give me stuff to speed me up but I'm a slow oxidider. They gave you the stuff they recommended you, because you are a fast oxidiser and there's a certain level for copper on hair tests where they will always give copper.

It's ARL/Wilson practioners who try to slow down slow down 4 lows.
 

esp90

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Thats not true whenever I have four lows or three lows pattern they give me stuff to speed me up but I'm a slow oxidider. They gave you the stuff they recommended you, because you are a fast oxidiser and there's a certain level for copper on hair tests where they will always give copper.

It's ARL/Wilson practioners who try to slow down slow down 4 lows.
Im not fast oxidizer, im temporarily a "fake" fast oxidizer, look at my last hairtest, extreme slow oxidation/calcium shell. Im copper toxic not deficient. They say im fast oxidation now since my calcium dropped.

TEI really labeled you slow oxidizer when you were 3/4-lows?
 

Yura

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The thing about loading up with all this copper is it just goes all to the liver mostly, so then at some point in the future you would then have to detox all that copper
I agree. Taking like 2mg of copper with zinc in zinc:copper ratio at least 8:1 is one thing, but taking no zinc just 8mg copper is crazy. Especially if they expect from the person to take it like 3-4 months before next hair test? I would say that is pretty dangerous taking so much copper fo so long..
 

esp90

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I agree. Taking like 2mg of copper with zinc in zinc:copper ratio at least 8:1 is one thing, but taking no zinc just 8mg copper is crazy. Especially if they expect from the person to take it like 3-4 months before next hair test? I would say that is pretty dangerous taking so much copper fo so long..
Like I said, I did feel good on it, also im pretty sure TEI knows more than we do. They have been doing this for 40+ years

Also, Helen said sometimes the program doesnt really start until you have been on it for a year, when the algorithm deciced you are ready to detox, so like maybe 1-2 years into tje program you finally start dumping copper, some of us are so fucked up we are not ready to start dumping metals, i am in four lows so i might be one of them. Maybe me doing this hg7 stuff is really stupid, but i feel fine so far.
 
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@esp90 Was there any change in pooping or how your poop looks when you started with copper? If you had good bile flow= dark brown sausage like stool very easy to pass. Then your liver probably eliminated any excess..
 

esp90

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@esp90 Was there any change in pooping or how your poop looks when you started with copper? If you had good bile flow= dark brown sausage like stool very easy to pass. Then your liver probably eliminated any excess..
I dont remember man, this was 2019
 

Yura

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Heh if you don't remember you probably didn't have issues with low bile flow. Because if you did you would remember.
 

esp90

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Heh if you don't remember you probably didn't have issues with low bile flow. Because if you did you would remember.
Yeah i had zero sides, only positive effects, well hairloss progressed that was it, tbh i wish i just continued tei cause hairloss did not stop when i went off it. Maybe i would be cured and had a different life right now if i continued.
 

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I will be posting more regular updates on lowtoxinforum since im doing the hg7 thing now. You can check my log there

I made a post today about my hair situation with pics if anyone is interested. Im excited.

 

Yura

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Yeah I am watching. I wonder how hair can change in any way. I understand that new hair that is growing can change, but the part that is already outside is just dead tissue like nails for example right?
 

esp90

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Yeah I am watching. I wonder how hair can change in any way. I understand that new hair that is growing can change, but the part that is already outside is just dead tissue like nails for example right?
Yeah i know I didnt know it can change like this either. I told my mom and she didnt believe it either until I showed pics.

My hair started to thinn like crazy a month ago, and got even worse on hg7 (wrong ratio). And its not that i noticed more hairloss just an decrease in density. Buy heisenberg says he also experience this, he says it thickens and then feels thinn and comes and goes like that