Experiences with ZMA for stress reduction?

TubZy

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I did a loading phase cuz I was feeling so miserable, so I did two of each 3x a day for the first 4 days now I'm doing 1 each 3x a day with arl schedule .

typically though, mornings are best.. will likely go to that soon.. just 2 of each in the am.

What did you notice from it so far besides mental benefits? When I tried PS alone a long time ago it made me so fatigued and tired type feeling I'm guessing that is why you need choline with it
 

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I used to take endo amp before the gym and felt great. What time of the day do you take that stack and what dosage for each?

EndoAmp is actually back through a new company. I saw it on Rob’s (SoCal Nutrition) email the other day.
 

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What did you notice from it so far besides mental benefits? When I tried PS alone a long time ago it made me so fatigued and tired type feeling I'm guessing that is why you need choline with it

Yea, I take it together to balance things out. Just lower the dose until your brain gets more accustomed to it. Mood and memory are pretty much the only benefits.

the memory aspect is interesting, it's very subtle, you'll just find yourself remembering details or names of events in the past, or speaking with a slightly upgraded vocabulary.
 

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EndoAmp is actually back through a new company. I saw it on Rob’s (SoCal Nutrition) email the other day.

good looks dude, I'm assuming it is this one EndoAmp Max Caps -

all the other old ones are sold out which the ones I used in the past and I think they went out of business. Stuff is great preworkout for endurance regarding resistance training, it is usually the only thing I used for preworkout in a long time.
 

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good looks dude, I'm assuming it is this one EndoAmp Max Caps -

all the other old ones are sold out which the ones I used in the past and I think they went out of business. Stuff is great preworkout for endurance regarding resistance training, it is usually the only thing I used for preworkout in a long time.

Yeah that’s it. I’ve always been on the lookout since you turned me on to it a few years back on SS. A little endoamp and coffee before the gym = hell of a good feeling.
 

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good looks dude, I'm assuming it is this one EndoAmp Max Caps -

all the other old ones are sold out which the ones I used in the past and I think they went out of business. Stuff is great preworkout for endurance regarding resistance training, it is usually the only thing I used for preworkout in a long time.


it has also phosphodylserine. which lowers cortisol.

Phosphodyl choline is used for fatty liver.


Electrolytes protocol has all of these. it has these https://www.amazon.com/Nutricology-Allergy-Research-Factor-Energy/dp/B00OZAB7BW/ref=sr_1_1?crid=ZSM0E3ZS1WN2&keywords=nt+factors+energy+lipid+powder&qid=1563080333&s=gateway&sprefix=nt+factors+,aps,324&sr=8-1


some people cured CFS with these


but some people get tired and really depressed on any cholines.

especially high acetylcholine people.
 
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it has also phosphodylserine. which lowers cortisol.

Phosphodyl choline is used for fatty liver.


Electrolytes protocol has all of these. it has these https://www.amazon.com/Nutricology-Allergy-Research-Factor-Energy/dp/B00OZAB7BW/ref=sr_1_1?crid=ZSM0E3ZS1WN2&keywords=nt+factors+energy+lipid+powder&qid=1563080333&s=gateway&sprefix=nt+factors+,aps,324&sr=8-1


some people cured CFS with these


but some people get tired and really depressed on any cholines.

especially high acetylcholine people.

Choline made me feel awful. Definitely not for everyone so be careful
 

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super charged my workouts. kind of helped me focus (I guess... I think so, for some things, that takes a lot of shyt anyways planning sitting down, tiring self out first etc).
sometimes made me silent (thank god some would say). I like alpha gpc (phosphatty containing, brand Cognitex). and citocholine tho (Jarrow). I think that alone took me to like 2500-3000 reps a week. Add randro, etc, I was doing thousands of reps per week last year. However that was overtraining LIKE HELL most likely.
 

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Made my own ZMA last night with supps i have at home so i took

200mg magnesium
30mg b6
30mg zinc

Never again, feel like im in a haze today. Sleepy and brain fog. Vision is blurry for some reason. Heart beating out of my chest lol

Do not recommend.
 

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Made my own ZMA last night with supps i have at home so i took

200mg magnesium
30mg b6
30mg zinc

Never again, feel like im in a haze today. Sleepy and brain fog. Vision is blurry for some reason. Heart beating out of my chest lol

Do not recommend.

Wow, sorry u had a bad experience. It's amazing how that small combination can trigger such a big reaction
 

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And the fact just one of them like zinc 15-20mg before bed can trigger pretty noticeable response in terms of painful morning hardness from about 1/4 to 5 till 1/4 to 6
 

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I think in my case it lowers sodium too much which is already low probably
 

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You had your hair tested during regular training and exercising schedule and the values are more lower than higher. When i did hair test during period of intensive physical activities my values were high and when chilled out and lowered metabolism with diet changes the values all went down. If thats your metabolism level during exercise it must be not that high. Plus caffeine only push overdrive for the kidneys and its where that sodium and potassium are treated. It might be the adrenals/kidney that need more attention.