I like it. Makes sense. Man, cracking joints...... that’s the music of my life. As they say, “ I’m way to young to feel this damn old”. So given that theory, as you mentioned, shouldn’t Botox be real winner for hairloss? It would relax all the muscles around the head allowing more and greater blood flow? Or is bone growth still overcoming any positive effect that would have on relaxing the scalp?
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@hairsuit... Botox, hell no... That's just an artificial way to show that if they relax the muscles on the sides of the head that hair growth does ensue... We want to do this the most non-toxic way possible... And also if baldness is basically a mechanical problem, it's got to have a mechanical answer... I think the scalp tension release is the biggest positive towards this problem.
Have you ever seen a bald guy with a loose scalp?
A guy with a shaved head, that has hair, will not be tight and shiny....
Males have a lot of stress in this world whether it be psychological or physiological... We got to weight on our shoulders , we got muscle mass and orgasms.
But males that are not bald, have square head shapes smaller scalps they are not large and pointed up....
I work in the medical field and I've have seen the sickest people on the planet... but the ones that had a small square head shape with not a bulbous scalp did not have hair loss.
Now explain to me how someone that's so sick with either diabetes or cancer or whatever it may be still have a full head of hair... well they just didn't have scalp tension like some people do that are healthy and grow muscle like The Rock
Have you ever seen a bald guy with a loose scalp?
A guy with a shaved head, that has hair, will not be tight and shiny....
Males have a lot of stress in this world whether it be psychological or physiological... We got to weight on our shoulders , we got muscle mass and orgasms.
But males that are not bald, have square head shapes smaller scalps they are not large and pointed up....
I work in the medical field and I've have seen the sickest people on the planet... but the ones that had a small square head shape with not a bulbous scalp did not have hair loss.
Now explain to me how someone that's so sick with either diabetes or cancer or whatever it may be still have a full head of hair... well they just didn't have scalp tension like some people do that are healthy and grow muscle like The Rock
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@tallglass13 POIS people have very low prolactin some of them. and high some of them , so does not depend on prolactin.
Also, you get horse shoe pattern on chelation. Exactly the same as MPB.
When I chelate I get horse shoe pattern. so I doubt it has to do with any muscles
It has to do with folinic acid availability and thus nitric oxide and BH4.
Many people have a problem with this. and thus they get MPB
These people dont have high androgens at all.
and the second group of people have high DHT. since they cant break it down. Almost like gilberts syndrome
These people get MPB from hypokalemia.
So here you go , 2 cases. 1 case low DHT and MPB since you lack nitric oxide. because you cant make it without BH4
and second case is high DHT and hypokalemia
which causes low ionized calcium your eNOS does not work.
Also, you get horse shoe pattern on chelation. Exactly the same as MPB.
When I chelate I get horse shoe pattern. so I doubt it has to do with any muscles
It has to do with folinic acid availability and thus nitric oxide and BH4.
Many people have a problem with this. and thus they get MPB
These people dont have high androgens at all.
and the second group of people have high DHT. since they cant break it down. Almost like gilberts syndrome
These people get MPB from hypokalemia.
So here you go , 2 cases. 1 case low DHT and MPB since you lack nitric oxide. because you cant make it without BH4
and second case is high DHT and hypokalemia
which causes low ionized calcium your eNOS does not work.
That's why I am convinced, blood flow (vessel health too) is important.
By putting onion and garlic paste with oil, you will have hair growing again.
Eating garlic and onion is even better.
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I've been eating onions and garlic for years, never seen regrowth.
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Did you start before hair loss?
If so, it seems it is not running for everybody.
So, two different types as Helen wrote.
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Im 100% sure there is some cranium expansion in bald people and for the longest time thoguht that it was the cause for mpb. But you see that most NW7's loose their temporal triangles and even the hair that goes down the neck. But weirdly no hair loss on the sides and back...
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Garlic and onions are two mandatory seasonings in Brazilian culinary, been eating it all my life (but it's usually fried).
Didn't stop hairloss for me.
alright, that can be a theory . but, how that... humans from born to after the puberty... they are always in a growing process, the bones are always growing, the skull too . So how that a male at the puberty .. when his skull grows does not experience hair-loss ?
I don't cut this theory, especially that there is a study that talk about this : Involvement of Mechanical Stress in Androgenetic Alopecia But.. it's just... i have questions around it
I don't cut this theory, especially that there is a study that talk about this : Involvement of Mechanical Stress in Androgenetic Alopecia But.. it's just... i have questions around it
We can visibly see the scalp of a NW7 dude, and it’s clesrly misshapen, with the cone head appearance. So, fibrosis/skull expansion in some form is taking place. Whether it is Fully responsible is the question. @Helen , to your points in hairloss, I still get confused by the same dichotomy: women and men would experience low DHT (women even more so) at the same time..... so why is this primarily a male problem? I know that the Androgen theory has a ton of holes in it and it can’t be solely responsible, but likewise, it is the only thing, in my mind, that somehow addresses the men vs. women of it all. Unless, it truly is all genetics as others have said.
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it is not primary a male problem, women lose iron monthly and thus lower their DHT.
as soon as their menpause hits, many lose this ability and they get whiskers and hairloss from high iron
plus women have high estrogen levels which usually stimulates NADPH production.
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Hairloss is the nitric oxide problem, I mean that is how minoxidle works. minoxidle is nitric oxide.
ENOS needs 5 cofactors, fad NADPH, bh4, iron , SODs,( copper zinc ) and mito SOD( manganese)
to make and recylcle bh4, YOU NEED to have lower ammonia levels( which depends on potassium )
If you have low potassium, ammonia goes up and BH4 is used to fight that.
also to recycle BH4 you need tetrafolate. which is made with glutathione components, and NADPH.
This is why you get very very depressed while chelating lead, or mercury or anything for that matter.
Since your folinic acid goes down, and without bh4 you cant make neurotransmitters
You cant make dopamine serotonin, NOTHING.
and also you cant make nitric oxide.
So problems could be in any of these systems, which will cause similar hairloss
you chelate, with EDTA, like in my case, lead goes into blood, kills your glutahtione, and you are down, on NADPH, FAD.
that is it within a month you get a horse shoe hairloss and it goes fast very fast.
ENOS needs 5 cofactors, fad NADPH, bh4, iron , SODs,( copper zinc ) and mito SOD( manganese)
to make and recylcle bh4, YOU NEED to have lower ammonia levels( which depends on potassium )
If you have low potassium, ammonia goes up and BH4 is used to fight that.
also to recycle BH4 you need tetrafolate. which is made with glutathione components, and NADPH.
This is why you get very very depressed while chelating lead, or mercury or anything for that matter.
Since your folinic acid goes down, and without bh4 you cant make neurotransmitters
You cant make dopamine serotonin, NOTHING.
and also you cant make nitric oxide.
So problems could be in any of these systems, which will cause similar hairloss
you chelate, with EDTA, like in my case, lead goes into blood, kills your glutahtione, and you are down, on NADPH, FAD.
that is it within a month you get a horse shoe hairloss and it goes fast very fast.
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NO protocol addresses a lot of those pathways however I think a few people that tried it didn't get any hair results though
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which NO protocol? you need to balance your SOds, nadph, it is not easy as feeding arginine))
plus hair does not grow in 2 weeks))
People try random shit, I just presented only 2 cases here.
you have to know which case you are and what your focal point in this to save hair.
I again stress to look at cofactors of ENOS enzyme
who addressed this?
you can be low on any of these things, mentioned and it will cause hairloss
and feeding other things will accelerate the hairloss
like you are low on copper but you are feeding some other thing, like arginine,
you will have more hairloss not less
since your nitric oxide wont be ENos. and will create free radicals, which will destroy your hair.
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This protocol lol https://hackstasis.com/threads/nitric-oxide-protocol.1134/
Read @tallglass13 and @brix posts in that thread. Both had improvements in other areas on it but not hair- actually brix shedded more hair while he was on it
Yeah didn’t work for me and by far from a longboard lasting cure. Making extra NO will make your face look like shit too.
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this is not a nitric oxide protocol that I mentioned and wrote in this thread. read this thread again.
this is simplified one thing, brix is a fast oxidizer.
i just wrote people with low DHT need potassium LOL Brix has low DHT ))
@Boris forget about this nitric oxide protocol it is not a full protocol
read this thread which I spent time and wrote out everything.
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@Boris I just wrote out the cofactors for enos enzyme. calcium is actually also a cofactor.( without potassium there will be no ionized calcium )
4 posts above.
now look at Nitric oxide protocol which you mentioned?
Nitric oxide protocol in wiki cant fix your nitrix oxide system, since you need to know your focal point. what is the problem ,which cofactor is the problem
since if you feell of them or miss something, it will be just worse
like brix is feeding nitric oxide lowering his copper, of course it will shed, since his nitric oxide wont be ENOS. without SODS
No Sods, copper or manganese and your nitric oxide will be shut down or zinc ))
this is why if you are iron toxic lets say, you coudl have manganese deficiency and boom no NITRIC oxide
if you are iron deficient, no nitric oxide
if you are folic acid deficient no nitric oxide
if you are magnesium deficient no nitric oxide
if you are histidine deficient no nitric oxide
4 posts above.
now look at Nitric oxide protocol which you mentioned?
Nitric oxide protocol in wiki cant fix your nitrix oxide system, since you need to know your focal point. what is the problem ,which cofactor is the problem
since if you feell of them or miss something, it will be just worse
like brix is feeding nitric oxide lowering his copper, of course it will shed, since his nitric oxide wont be ENOS. without SODS
No Sods, copper or manganese and your nitric oxide will be shut down or zinc ))
this is why if you are iron toxic lets say, you coudl have manganese deficiency and boom no NITRIC oxide
if you are iron deficient, no nitric oxide
if you are folic acid deficient no nitric oxide
if you are magnesium deficient no nitric oxide
if you are histidine deficient no nitric oxide
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