Experimental Hair Loss Options

[Helen]

@Boris what I wrote is not a protocol. it is an explanation why people get hairloss

protocol has to be individual, addressing problems and focal points in these people

as I explained people can have hairloss with low DHT.

if you hvae iron deficiency you will have LOW DHT.

and hairloss

if you have iron toxicity you will have high DHT and hairloss and low manganese. or copper


NO protocol can address this in ALL cases. it has to be individual.



this is why hairloss and cancer cant be cured based on some generic treatment.

since people have different focal points leading to the same thing


and this is why some people grow hair on FIN< and some people lose hair on fin.


Since in one case it is hypokalemia caused by high DHT which is teh problem

and in another case lack of NADPH is the problem and fin makes that problems worse. thus hairloss on fin.

 

[TubZy]

@Boris I just wrote out the cofactors for enos enzyme. calcium is actually also a cofactor.( without potassium there will be no ionized calcium )
4 posts above.

now look at Nitric oxide protocol which you mentioned?


Nitric oxide protocol in wiki cant fix your nitrix oxide system, since you need to know your focal point. what is the problem ,which cofactor is the problem
since if you feell of them or miss something, it will be just worse

like brix is feeding nitric oxide lowering his copper, of course it will shed, since his nitric oxide wont be ENOS. without SODS

No Sods, copper or manganese and your nitric oxide will be shut down or zinc ))

this is why if you are iron toxic lets say, you coudl have manganese deficiency and boom no NITRIC oxide

if you are iron deficient, no nitric oxide

if you are folic acid deficient no nitric oxide

if you are magnesium deficient no nitric oxide


if you are histidine deficient no nitric oxide

Lol I thought you came up with that NO protocol, that is why tall glass said it was Helen inspired in his post. But we can edit that thread then. I just want to make sure it is correct however can you just list exactly what to take and an example dose range? You just talked about it high level and not really exactly what to take. For example:

ENOS needs 5 cofactors, fad NADPH, bh4, iron , SODs,( copper zinc ) and mito SOD( manganese)

Can you expand on each cofactor so we know how to feed each one? Then I can update the thread for the protocol. I know what you are saying I just don't see any specifics and I want to make sure I get it right before any changes are made

 

[Helen]

Lol I didn't come up with that other NO protocol, you did that is why tall glass said it was Helen inspired in his post. But we can edit that thread then. I just want to make sure it is correct however can you just list exactly what to take and an example dose range? You just talked about it high level and not really exactly what to take. For example:

ENOS needs 5 cofactors, fad NADPH, bh4, iron , SODs,( copper zinc ) and mito SOD( manganese)

Can you expand on each cofactor so we know how to feed each one? Then I can update the thread for the protocol. I know what you are saying I just don't see any specifics and I want to make sure I get it right before any changes are made

Dude, he took this protocol from THIS thread. read the thread, I wrote it out many times. IN This thread. hairloss thread.

he took some parts of it. only

 

[Helen]

@Boris I dont list what to take I just wrote out what eNOS depend on, it does not mean youhave to take all those things

you need to find your focal point, what you are missing to create and support eNOS

if you feel just everything, it is worthless in MY opinion, since some parts of it coudl be actually high

like copper could be high and you feed it, or iron could be high and you feed it.

 

[Helen]

Nitric oxide system is just very vulnureble and as years go by and we have more oxidative stress and computer stress etc

I think most people will be bald and we will evolve to something else,

 

[TubZy]

Nitric oxide system is just very vulnureble and as years go by and we have more oxidative stress and computer stress etc

I think most people will be bald and we will evolve to something else,

Ok, I will check back in the thread and see what tallglass was missing from his protocol compared to yours to see where he went wrong. I have no idea what page it was on here so it may take me a bit

 

[RebelWithACause]

Nitric oxide system is just very vulnureble and as years go by and we have more oxidative stress and computer stress etc

I think most people will be bald and we will evolve to something else,

Hahaha this made me laugh

 

[Ingeno]

@Helen Basically all those processes you described are treated by TEI?

 

[Aleksandr]

Nitric oxide system is just very vulnureble and as years go by and we have more oxidative stress and computer stress etc

I think most people will be bald and we will evolve to something else,

NO!!

 

[hairsuit]

Hahaha this made me laugh

...... and cry at the same time

 

[diffi]

@Boris I dont list what to take I just wrote out what eNOS depend on, it does not mean youhave to take all those things

you need to find your focal point, what you are missing to create and support eNOS

if you feel just everything, it is worthless in MY opinion, since some parts of it coudl be actually high

like copper could be high and you feed it, or iron could be high and you feed it.

It seems that getting the focal point(s) and the right supps helps to be in homeostasis of those 5 components which leads to an optimal NO production. Analogous would be cell metabolism /oxidation to produce ATP. If inhibited by crap like metals, metabolism is impaired, cell dividing occurs (cancer) to diminish the cell crap in one cell.
The body does nothing without logic.
So, why get hair lost? And why on the top in most cases? Is it a signal I am not balanced, get away
In turqui, we see the highest rate of bald men. How come? Also some red curly hair guys like me often get mpb.
The theory with high and low dht and different causes is plausible.
I sometimes see very masculine bald guys and more feminine bald guys.

 

[RebelWithACause]

...... and cry at the same time

Why? Everbody bald. Finally people shut the fuck up about losing their hair or trying to hold on to last straws.

People should be happy to be alive. Hairloss is such a gay thing to worry about. For real. It shows you, you have no REAL problems.

I hope I go bald as a punishment for my sins (taking finasteride). MAKE ME BALD.

 

[hairsuit]

Why? Everbody bald. Finally people shut the fuck up about losing their hair or trying to hold on to last straws.

People should be happy to be alive. Hairloss is such a gay thing to worry about. For real. It shows you, you have no REAL problems.

I hope I go bald as a punishment for my sins (taking finasteride). MAKE ME BALD.

Hahaha. You’re a braver man than i

 

[TubZy]

@Helen I just read through a ton of pages here. I didn't see anything on NO protocol. Only zinc/mang/GHK/thyroid/cortisol about hair etc. you 100% sure the NO stuff was in this threaD?

 

[Helen]

@Helen I just read through a ton of pages here. I didn't see anything on NO protocol. Only zinc/mang/GHK/thyroid/cortisol about hair etc. you 100% sure the NO stuff was in this threaD?

Dude, I thought it was in this thread. I will look for it.

 

[Aleksandr]

Why? Everbody bald. Finally people shut the fuck up about losing their hair or trying to hold on to last straws.

People should be happy to be alive. Hairloss is such a gay thing to worry about. For real. It shows you, you have no REAL problems.

I hope I go bald as a punishment for my sins (taking finasteride). MAKE ME BALD.

Best post I've read here in awhile@!@

 

[JDD]

how does adrenaline and aldosterone connect with this nitric oxide theory? I remember helen said high adrenaline will cause horseshoe pattern. If I take b vitamins and load up on salt and basically kill adrenaline my shedding slows down, then if I decide to fast for a day (like today) my hairloss gets crazy/ I don't know whether to try to kill adrenaline until my body can replenish vitamins and minerals lost from high adrenaline or to continue fasting to try to get more sensitive over time

 

[Aleksandr]

how does adrenaline and aldosterone connect with this nitric oxide theory? I remember helen said high adrenaline will cause horseshoe pattern. If I take b vitamins and load up on salt and basically kill adrenaline my shedding slows down, then if I decide to fast for a day (like today) my hairloss gets crazy/ I don't know whether to try to kill adrenaline until my body can replenish vitamins and minerals lost from high adrenaline or to continue fasting to try to get more sensitive over time

I'm interested in this too great question @Helen btw how do u know salt and b vitamins kill adrenaline?

 

[ballheadbuddha]

how does adrenaline and aldosterone connect with this nitric oxide theory? I remember helen said high adrenaline will cause horseshoe pattern. If I take b vitamins and load up on salt and basically kill adrenaline my shedding slows down, then if I decide to fast for a day (like today) my hairloss gets crazy/ I don't know whether to try to kill adrenaline until my body can replenish vitamins and minerals lost from high adrenaline or to continue fasting to try to get more sensitive over time

long fasts supposedly lower adrenaline action, no?
it spikes on the beginning and then go down

 

[Nina]

I am wondering what causes thinning of the hair? My hair used to be full and thick but since puberty it has gotten dry, thinner and lifeless. Kinda like straw.

Any ideas why?