Experimental Hair Loss Options

Nina

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long fasts supposedly lower adrenaline action, no?
it spikes on the beginning and then go down

A lot of people have bad hair loss on keto which probably also has to do with high adrenaline

Kinda the same state as fasting
 

jacknap

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so I'm feeling really good right now my libido was sky high past week. feels a bit lower now but I literally was able to do 3 rounds which was basically my pre pfs high. hopefully it sticks.

thing is my hair is dieing now. i've been using himilayan sea salt with my conditioner and cold showers but still my hair line and receding seems to have gotten worse. might just be the hair cut I have etc because when I wash it sometimes it can still look really good depending on how I style it though

has anyone found anything that wont disrupt cdnuts protocol? I was doing head stands too and I still do them once a week but still doesnt seem to be doing anything hmm. i still have pretty decent hair tho but it's definitely receding and thinning
 

Ingeno

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I think nobody has found anything that doens't disrupt our system that actually works for our hair loss problems. I'm doing daily headstands mostly 1 or 2 x 90 seconds, morning and evening. I'm thinking of wearing an elastic band around the scalp at home to release the tension/gravity on the scalp, which is another hair loss theory.

I did many salt scrubs and put salty water on my head each evening before bed and my hair did still fall out. It might have reduced the itch a bit, but only for a couple of hours. I think anything that promotes hair growth only works in a balanced oxidation rate, untill then we are screwed.
 

Aleksandr

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I think nobody has found anything that doens't disrupt our system that actually works for our hair loss problems. I'm doing daily headstands mostly 1 or 2 x 90 seconds, morning and evening. I'm thinking of wearing an elastic band around the scalp at home to release the tension/gravity on the scalp, which is another hair loss theory.

I did many salt scrubs and put salty water on my head each evening before bed and my hair did still fall out. It might have reduced the itch a bit, but only for a couple of hours. I think anything that promotes hair growth only works in a balanced oxidation rate, untill then we are screwed.
Yeah looking at your most recent hair test, you were pretty unbalanced. A lot of your ratios are crazy.

Take a look at my most recent one (6 months old or so now - i just sent another one in); my ratios are pretty balanced. Not perfect tho like i need cobalt and manganese etc, but the main ratios are pretty good. My scalp itch went away and dandruff has recently gone away too (ive been having more calcium i think helped the dandruff, as well as showering after sport)

I dont think putting sodium on your scalp is good for a fast oxidiser, it will thin you faster
 

Ingeno

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Yeah looking at your most recent hair test, you were pretty unbalanced. A lot of your ratios are crazy.

Take a look at my most recent one (6 months old or so now - i just sent another one in); my ratios are pretty balanced. Not perfect tho like i need cobalt and manganese etc, but the main ratios are pretty good. My scalp itch went away and dandruff has recently gone away too (ive been having more calcium i think helped the dandruff, as well as showering after sport)

I dont think putting sodium on your scalp is good for a fast oxidiser, it will thin you faster
Yeah it's going all places, probably due to the first test not being correct. Hopefully the 3th one will be more worthwhile. Did you have hair loss and has it stabilized now?
 

Aleksandr

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Why? Everbody bald. Finally people shut the fuck up about losing their hair or trying to hold on to last straws.

People should be happy to be alive. Hairloss is such a gay thing to worry about. For real. It shows you, you have no REAL problems.

I hope I go bald as a punishment for my sins (taking finasteride). MAKE ME BALD.
 

Aleksandr

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Yeah it's going all places, probably due to the first test not being correct. Hopefully the 3th one will be more worthwhile. Did you have hair loss and has it stabilized now?
yep a bit of thining and receeding. dont think its grown back, but it hasnt gotten worse and my scalp feels like it did when i was a teenager again
 

hairsuit

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so I'm feeling really good right now my libido was sky high past week. feels a bit lower now but I literally was able to do 3 rounds which was basically my pre pfs high. hopefully it sticks.

thing is my hair is dieing now. i've been using himilayan sea salt with my conditioner and cold showers but still my hair line and receding seems to have gotten worse. might just be the hair cut I have etc because when I wash it sometimes it can still look really good depending on how I style it though

has anyone found anything that wont disrupt cdnuts protocol? I was doing head stands too and I still do them once a week but still doesnt seem to be doing anything hmm. i still have pretty decent hair tho but it's definitely receding and thinning
You know, you could always start micro needling. A lot of studies show that even by itself, it had better effects than minoxidil. That way you wouldn’t be introducing any foreign chemicals into your body. Still, the real results come when used in conjunction with minox. But better than throwing in the towel.
 

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Platelet-Rich Plasma in Androgenic Alopecia: Myth or an Effective Tool
Platelet-Rich Plasma

This is probably the single one tratement with 0 sides and evidence that works

this is all you have to do:

PRP was prepared by collecting 20 cc of fresh blood in sodium citrate containing vaccutainers in minor operation theatre under proper aseptic precaution. The tubes were rotated in a centrifugation machine at 1500 revolutions per minute for 6 minutes. The first centrifugation is called “soft spin”, which allows blood separation into three layers, namely bottom RBC layer (55% of total volume), topmost acellular plasma layer called platelet poor plasma (PPP, 40% of total volume) and an intermediate PRP layer (5% of total volume) called the “buffy coat”. Separated buffy coat with PPP was collected with the help of Finn pipette in another test tube. This tube underwent a second centrifugation, which was longer and faster than the first, called “hard spin”, comprising at 2500 revolution per minute for 15 minutes. This allows the platelets (PRP) to settle at the bottom of the tube. The upper layer containing PPP was discarded and the lower layer of PRP was loaded in an insulin syringe containing calcium chloride (1 part calcium chloride and 9 parts of PRP) as an activator.
when you have this

then:
One hour prior to administration of PRP, anaesthetic cream was applied over the bald area. Area of the scalp to be treated was cleaned with cetavlon, spirit and povidone-iodine. With the help of insulin syringe PRP was injected over affected area by nappage technique (multiple small injections in a linear pattern one-cm apart) under proper aseptic precaution in minor operation theatre. A total volume of 2-3 cc was injected. The treatment was repeated every two weeks for four sessions

 

dante

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Platelet-Rich Plasma in Androgenic Alopecia: Myth or an Effective Tool
Platelet-Rich Plasma

This is probably the single one tratement with 0 sides and evidence that works

this is all you have to do:

when you have this

then:

I had a friend who took a few sessions of PRP . His hairloss did stop temporarily but i don't think it will hold for long. PRP does give a temporary boost to hair follicles but i don't think it reverses the conditions which are causing the fibrosis in scalp. So, after a few months/years, one would start losing hair again
 

hello

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I had a friend who took a few sessions of PRP . His hairloss did stop temporarily but i don't think it will hold for long. PRP does give a temporary boost to hair follicles but i don't think it reverses the conditions which are causing the fibrosis in scalp. So, after a few months/years, one would start losing hair again

I consider this treatment not...for one administration or..2.. or 5.. but you keep doing it as long as you want hair.
At the beginning you keep doing it monthly for 3..4 months , then at every 3 months for 3..4 months then at 6 month.. so on..so forth.
I see this treatment as minoxidil, but no sides...and no daily application...
Of course if you are doing it in a clinic, you will run out of money(it's expensive if u are doing it in a clinic, should not be... it's a stupid easy procedure) , but rather buy a prp kit and a centrifuge... and do it by yourself... or with help of a .. friend...
 
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jacknap

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I listen to Victor Prides podcast and he was saying that using eggs directly on hair will make hair look great.
Thoughts? might try it. what's a good time frame to assess effectiveness? a month? wash my hair 3x a week. so ends up being perfectly 12 eggs in a month. pastured eggs, organic etc. can't find fertile here @Helen @Boris
 
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I listen to Victor Prides podcast and he was saying that using eggs directly on hair will make hair look great.
Thoughts? might try it. what's a good time frame to assess effectiveness? a month? wash my hair 3x a week. so ends up being perfectly 12 eggs in a month. pastured eggs, organic etc. can't find fertile here @Helen @Boris

It's a great 'conditioner' though i'd recommend some essential oils or actual conditioner to avoid the raw egg smell.

It hasn't slowed my hair loss or anything, but it does coat your hair, making it thicker.
 

Ingeno

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Anyone slowed down their temple hair loss? Since being on TEI, 2 cycles, my hairline is being destroyed and makes me depressed as fuck, even while my scalp feels pretty smooth en healthy. I've stopped all topical experiments because they could influence the hair test. I really hoped TEI would slow down my hair loss, but I think it accelerated it, while still having low androgen symptoms like being catabolic, low libido and no motivation.
 

HerrFisch

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Anyone slowed down their temple hair loss? Since being on TEI, 2 cycles, my hairline is being destroyed and makes me depressed as fuck, even while my scalp feels pretty smooth en healthy. I've stopped all topical experiments because they could influence the hair test. I really hoped TEI would slow down my hair loss, but I think it accelerated it, while still having low androgen symptoms like being catabolic, low libido and no motivation.

hmm by comparing some hairtests, it seems like for hair its advantageous to have rather low NA/K (1-2) and good levels of copper, Manganese and Iron.

But I guess that should be the end result of TEI either way right ?