Experimental Hair Loss Options

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brix

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I think low Na/K is bad too. High K means high cortisol which is very bad for hair health. I have low Na/K and shed still. Don’t have the horse shoe but overall thinning and some temple recession.
 
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@Ingeno Try taking more magnesium/calcium if you can. Since the Dutch TEI Sympia it is lacking I would add a bit more to the supplement manually to slow you down more. It can help with hairloss I think for fast oxidizers. Or eat more calcium from milk products (milk is the best for this IMO) and spinach (magnesium).

I think if you slow yourself down enough you will also get increase in androgen/anabolism - you go less into catabolism.

I was sometimes drinking a liter of full fat milk and that would slow me down. But less than that and I would feel uptight/fast oxidation. You see how much calcium I needed. So supplement extra. Buy extra Calcium Plus II and Magnesium Plus II and add like a half or a quarter of those in when you take the Sympia.

Or you can up the fat (butter).

The extra calcium/magnesium is not pure for hairloss. I think it is a good idea to emulate the original Sympack as closely as possible.

Sympack is to support your metabolism but in the Dutch one it lacks magnesium + calcium + vitamin d3. Which means you do not slow down enough unless you eat a lot of calcium from foods (which I did before). This can keep you in a more catabolic state I guess. So add those in.

Also if you are taking vitamin E I think it makes me shed more than normal but I don't think I am losing ground.

Just some things you can try.
 
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RebelWithACause said:
@Ingeno Try taking more magnesium/calcium if you can. Since the Dutch TEI Sympia it is lacking I would add a bit more to the supplement manually to slow you down more. It can help with hairloss I think for fast oxidizers. Or eat more calcium from milk products (milk is the best for this IMO) and spinach (magnesium).

I think if you slow yourself down enough you will also get increase in androgen/anabolism - you go less into catabolism.

I was sometimes drinking a liter of full fat milk and that would slow me down. But less than that and I would feel uptight/fast oxidation. You see how much calcium I needed. So supplement extra. Buy extra Calcium Plus II and Magnesium Plus II and add like a half or a quarter of those in when you take the Sympia.

Or you can up the fat (butter).

The extra calcium/magnesium is not pure for hairloss. I think it is a good idea to emulate the original Sympack as closely as possible.

Sympack is to support your metabolism but in the Dutch one it lacks magnesium + calcium + vitamin d3. Which means you do not slow down enough unless you eat a lot of calcium from foods (which I did before). This can keep you in a more catabolic state I guess. So add those in.

Also if you are taking vitamin E I think it makes me shed more than normal but I don't think I am losing ground.

Just some things you can try.
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I did quit spinach because I had to avoid it and milk gives me some scalp itch, don't you get the itch? I might add spinach back because I always liked that food, and maybe I need to up my dairy even more for the benefits. Will test some things out, thanks.
 
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Ingeno said:
I did quit spinach because I had to avoid it and milk gives me some scalp itch, don't you get the itch? I might add spinach back because I always liked that food, and maybe I need to up my dairy even more for the benefits. Will test some things out, thanks.
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No real itch. Sometimes my skin is very oily and then I get some itch. No real hairloss
 
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what about the fat layer that builds up on the scalp, what could cause this?
if I scratch my temples with my nails, it gets filled with fat/skin..
 
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Ingeno said:
Anyone slowed down their temple hair loss? Since being on TEI, 2 cycles, my hairline is being destroyed and makes me depressed as fuck, even while my scalp feels pretty smooth en healthy. I've stopped all topical experiments because they could influence the hair test. I really hoped TEI would slow down my hair loss, but I think it accelerated it, while still having low androgen symptoms like being catabolic, low libido and no motivation.
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completely reversed with dermaroller
 
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hairsuit said:
That’s crazy. My hairline I’ve been able to hold onto for the past 15 years. Started dermarolling in November, and all hell broke loose. Wish I had never started.
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so if you hold onto for the past 15 years why you Started dermarolling in November?
 
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Ingeno said:
Anyone slowed down their temple hair loss? Since being on TEI, 2 cycles, my hairline is being destroyed and makes me depressed as fuck, even while my scalp feels pretty smooth en healthy. I've stopped all topical experiments because they could influence the hair test. I really hoped TEI would slow down my hair loss, but I think it accelerated it, while still having low androgen symptoms like being catabolic, low libido and no motivation.
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I am a FAST 2 aswell and completed my first cycle one week ago, my hairline got destroyed on this cycle, its ridiculous, im scared to start the second cycle...
 
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esp90 said:
I am a FAST 2 aswell and completed my first cycle one week ago, my hairline got destroyed on this cycle, its ridiculous, im scared to start the second cycle...
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Yeah, that’s something else I didn’t take into consideration. It could have been the NB not the dermarolling that made an impact. Hard to know. Both happened At the same time.
 
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hairsuit said:
Well, I was doing 1.5mm, once a week. Started in nevember. Went until the end of February. My two temples thinned our considerably. Didn’t maintain, didn’t improve. Got worse for some reason. Frustrating
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once per wekk for all those months is too much. didi you read the studies? you should start with once a week only for the first four weeks, than you have to do it other 20 times fortnightly, for a total of 6 months.
 
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Go_faster_Sonic said:
once per wekk for all those months is too much. didi you read the studies? you should start with once a week only for the first four weeks, than you have to do it other 20 times fortnightly, for a total of 6 months.
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How long did it take to get results? and do you put anything on the area after you use the dermaroller?
 
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esp90 said:
And you are saying this restored your hairline to what it was before?
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yes, exactly. to be sincere, i had a different problem, something similar to the female pattern hair loss. i don't know if dermaroller restored my frontal area problems (maybe, since my curly hair look better now) but it restored my temples for sure.
 
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Go_faster_Sonic said:
yes, exactly. to be sincere, i had a different problem, something similar to the female pattern hair loss. i don't know if dermaroller restored my frontal area problems (maybe, since my curly hair look better now) but it restored my temples for sure.
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Did u take photos
 
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