Experimental Hair Loss Options

[Rez]

Low dose progesterone every other day is something I'd be willing to try to at least see how I responded. I'm desperate at this point, because everything I've tried has done absolutely nothing for my hair. It just continues to thin.

How easy is it to get a prescription for?

 

[JonnyCraig]

Low dose progesterone every other day is something I'd be willing to try to at least see how I responded. I'm desperate at this point, because everything I've tried has done absolutely nothing for my hair. It just continues to thin.

How easy is it to get a prescription for?

No idea, but good luck trying to find a doctor willing to help on that, considering it's usually for women.

What I do is, I buy Progesterone liquid from HealthNatura, and I fill a OO size capsule, and swallow. It comes to about 100mg.

Comes to about 22$ a month.

 

[TubZy]

Did more research on topical ACV...not sure why more people haven't tried this already. I let it sit in my hair with some black seed oil for 2 hours yesterday and my hair looks much thicker and healthier today and scalp itch is gone. My hair seems overall healthier too and shedding decreased. I'm referring to ACV topically left on the scalp for at least an hour not just as a shampoo.

http://hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=89003&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

 

[TubZy]

What do you guys think of the new research coming out of Yonsei University in South Korea? They're claiming that it's the end of balding. Many have claimed that before, but this is supposed to be it.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xt6XRa2Hdu1RX-65ZeKFcEfsxQ4ajxNh/view

Was hoping to get some of your opinions on it.

I saw that, looks very promising. Hoping someone with more knowledge can read into it. I sent it to Travis

Btw, the link you posted is just the study on wound healing, which is the precursor study to the one involving hair growth (the one you posted doesn't even talk about hair)

https://scihub22266oqcxt.onion.link/http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X17315555

There's the correct study

I need to sit down and give this a good read, but from the looks of it is seems to have to do with wounding/needling (derminator)

 

[JonnyCraig]

Did more research on topical ACV...not sure why more people haven't tried this already. I let it sit in my hair with some black seed oil for 2 hours yesterday and my hair looks much thicker and healthier today and scalp itch is gone. My hair seems overall healthier too and shedding decreased. I'm referring to ACV topically left on the scalp for at least an hour not just as a shampoo.

http://hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=89003&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

Very interesting. I may try this.

I just spent a good hour reading Gbold stuff. He seems so certain on Zinc+Manganese for stopping hair loss... feel like I need to experiment more with it..

 

[Jamie]

What do you guys think of the new research coming out of Yonsei University in South Korea? They're claiming that it's the end of balding. Many have claimed that before, but this is supposed to be it.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xt6XRa2Hdu1RX-65ZeKFcEfsxQ4ajxNh/view

Was hoping to get some of your opinions on it.

I saw that, looks very promising. Hoping someone with more knowledge can read into it. I sent it to Travis

Btw, the link you posted is just the study on wound healing, which is the precursor study to the one involving hair growth (the one you posted doesn't even talk about hair)

https://scihub22266oqcxt.onion.link/http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X17315555

There's the correct study

I need to sit down and give this a good read, but from the looks of it is seems to have to do with wounding/needling (derminator)

Intersting, I have dermapen and some VPA left as I tried swisstemples protocol few months ago. It helped in "reviving" hair on my temples so that there started growing little hairs but it didn't stop shedding and after all i lost more than i gained. Does anyone have any experience with that?

 

[Jamie]

Did more research on topical ACV...not sure why more people haven't tried this already. I let it sit in my hair with some black seed oil for 2 hours yesterday and my hair looks much thicker and healthier today and scalp itch is gone. My hair seems overall healthier too and shedding decreased. I'm referring to ACV topically left on the scalp for at least an hour not just as a shampoo.

http://hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=89003&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

doesn't it smell so bad with that oil?

 

[mattyb]

I might give the ACV thing a go, ACV has the same pH as skin, so I could see how it would be good. How do you get it to stay on your head though, especially for a bald guy like me? I feel like it would just fall straight off. I guess I could use some kind of absorbent for it and let that sit on my head....

 

[TubZy]

Did more research on topical ACV...not sure why more people haven't tried this already. I let it sit in my hair with some black seed oil for 2 hours yesterday and my hair looks much thicker and healthier today and scalp itch is gone. My hair seems overall healthier too and shedding decreased. I'm referring to ACV topically left on the scalp for at least an hour not just as a shampoo.

http://hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=89003&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

doesn't it smell so bad with that oil?

No it actually smells worse when it is solo, but once it drys the smell goes away by like 90%. When mix it with the black seed oil it seems fine (very light smell) although I can't speak for other oils

 

[TubZy]

I might give the ACV thing a go, ACV has the same pH as skin, so I could see how it would be good. How do you get it to stay on your head though, especially for a bald guy like me? I feel like it would just fall straight off. I guess I could use some kind of absorbent for it and let that sit on my head....

You could use a light oil and mix the oil and ACV and apply the complete mixed oil solution to your head and let it for 1-2 hours or overnight.

Or you can get a spray bottle and add the ACV to it and just spray it on your head lightly and if it's a thin layer it drys quick. Once it drys the smell goes down by a lot and it doesn't seem sticky or anything.

 

[TubZy]

I saw that, looks very promising. Hoping someone with more knowledge can read into it. I sent it to Travis

Btw, the link you posted is just the study on wound healing, which is the precursor study to the one involving hair growth (the one you posted doesn't even talk about hair)

https://scihub22266oqcxt.onion.link/http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X17315555

There's the correct study

I need to sit down and give this a good read, but from the looks of it is seems to have to do with wounding/needling (derminator)

Intersting, I have dermapen and some VPA left as I tried swisstemples protocol few months ago. It helped in "reviving" hair on my temples so that there started growing little hairs but it didn't stop shedding and after all i lost more than i gained. Does anyone have any experience with that?

Yeah same, at least in the past people that I've seen, it seems to best for stimulating new hair in completely bald spots.

 

[tfcjesse]

I might try the AVC/black cumin seed mix.

I had already picked up some Black cumin seed oil for the thymoquinone, to take orally. I think RP mentioned it in a good light, and Cohen over at Selfhacked (though I disagree with many of their claims) praises it.

The only thing I'm weary of is its high linoleic acid content. If Travis' claim turns out to be true, then linoleic acid consumption is a no-no for hair.

 

[mattyb]

Completely avoiding linoleic acid is a waste of time, but limiting it to reasonable levels in the diet by avoiding vegetable oils is very do-able. You want to control the system so it's end product is negligible, that's what is most important.

 

[TubZy]

I might try the AVC/black cumin seed mix.

I had already picked up some Black cumin seed oil for the thymoquinone, to take orally. I think RP mentioned it in a good light, and Cohen over at Selfhacked (though I disagree with many of their claims) praises it.

The only thing I'm weary of is its high linoleic acid content. If Travis' claim turns out to be true, then linoleic acid consumption is a no-no for hair.

Orally not sure really, but topically I don't think the LA would be an issue at all, if it was it would make my hair fall out more according to Travis I assume, but that doesn't seem to be the case actually quite the opposite

 

[jacknap]

Did more research on topical ACV...not sure why more people haven't tried this already. I let it sit in my hair with some black seed oil for 2 hours yesterday and my hair looks much thicker and healthier today and scalp itch is gone. My hair seems overall healthier too and shedding decreased. I'm referring to ACV topically left on the scalp for at least an hour not just as a shampoo.

http://hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=89003&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

I tried black seed oil before didn't really work for me. I heard that black seed oil works cuz it's dht inhibitor tho?

 

[TubZy]

Did more research on topical ACV...not sure why more people haven't tried this already. I let it sit in my hair with some black seed oil for 2 hours yesterday and my hair looks much thicker and healthier today and scalp itch is gone. My hair seems overall healthier too and shedding decreased. I'm referring to ACV topically left on the scalp for at least an hour not just as a shampoo.

http://hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=89003&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

I tried black seed oil before didn't really work for me. I heard that black seed oil works cuz it's dht inhibitor tho?

Try adding ACV with it and olive leaf extract. All oils pretty much have some DHT inhibiting properties to an extent. If if it was just from the DHT inhibiting properties, coconut oil would regrow hair the best, doesn't seem to be the case.

Make sure your black seed oil is standardized for Thymoquinone. I'm using this one, but any that contains that ingredient in a standardized amount should help.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B016NHTTBO/ref=mp_s_a_1_7_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1512052516&sr=8-7&keywords=black+seed+oil&dpPl=1&dpID=41knATYj-4L&ref=plSrch

 

[TubZy]

I might give the ACV thing a go, ACV has the same pH as skin, so I could see how it would be good. How do you get it to stay on your head though, especially for a bald guy like me? I feel like it would just fall straight off. I guess I could use some kind of absorbent for it and let that sit on my head....

Do you know if ACV topically can speed up or enhance absorption of the solution it mixed in? Similar to how vitamin E can increase absorption into skin since it can open up the cell better.

 

[mattyb]

I might give the ACV thing a go, ACV has the same pH as skin, so I could see how it would be good. How do you get it to stay on your head though, especially for a bald guy like me? I feel like it would just fall straight off. I guess I could use some kind of absorbent for it and let that sit on my head....

Do you know if ACV topically can speed up or enhance absorption of the solution it mixed in? Similar to how vitamin E can increase absorption into skin since it can open up the cell better.

I have no idea. Skin pH is around 4.5 and ACV is supposed to be somewhere around 4. So it's slightly acidic, and you think it would open up the cell and increase mineral ionization slightly. But I can't say for sure at all.

 

[Jamie]

Maybe ACV is helpful just by its acidic PH
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18489300/

 

[jacknap]

I might give the ACV thing a go, ACV has the same pH as skin, so I could see how it would be good. How do you get it to stay on your head though, especially for a bald guy like me? I feel like it would just fall straight off. I guess I could use some kind of absorbent for it and let that sit on my head....

Do you know if ACV topically can speed up or enhance absorption of the solution it mixed in? Similar to how vitamin E can increase absorption into skin since it can open up the cell better.

what do you find actually works best for you for sure? cause you seem to be using something different every month lol.