Experimental Hair Loss Options

[Aleksandr]

I'm a fast oxidizer.

Id seriously recommend rubbing lard or tallow into your hair if ur a fast oxidiser with diffuse thinning

You tried it lol? I think it is the most funniest hair protocol ever, but it actually does work. We are still not sure exactly how though...

Yeah i have. Im probablya slow oxidiser tho and only with a receeding hairline so i dont think its a solution for me.

But nothing bad to report. My hair seems less greasy and healthier after i use it. In fact completely in line with gvolds theory. Exogenous oil makes my own hairs production of it decrease.

I might start it up again until my lethicin gets here actually since i have a shaved head now anyway

 

[mattyb]

Has no one here tried aggressive scalp massage?

I have been doing it for one month and have already noticed significant progress in terms of new hair growth. Unfortunately, most new hairs have the qualities of thin white vellus hairs, but I have noticed longer and thicker black hairs popping up as well. Other people have commented on it as well, so I'm not totally out to lunch.

I usually do it throughout the day whenever I'm sitting around and have the time. I don't do the two 20 minutes sessions per day like others have recommended. But I still probably do it for close to 30 minutes per day when you add it all up together.

 

[jacknap]

I'm a fast oxidizer.

Id seriously recommend rubbing lard or tallow into your hair if ur a fast oxidiser with diffuse thinning

might work but also will make my hair look greasy and oil which defeats the purpose of having good hair no?
Wouldn't just upping the lard in diet suffice? I can't imagine it being THAT much more effective than topically..

 

[Aleksandr]

I'm a fast oxidizer.

Id seriously recommend rubbing lard or tallow into your hair if ur a fast oxidiser with diffuse thinning

might work but also will make my hair look greasy and oil which defeats the purpose of having good hair no?
Wouldn't just upping the lard in diet suffice? I can't imagine it being THAT much more effective than topically..

Buzz it off! Short term pain long term gain!

 

[TubZy]

I'm a fast oxidizer.

Id seriously recommend rubbing lard or tallow into your hair if ur a fast oxidiser with diffuse thinning

might work but also will make my hair look greasy and oil which defeats the purpose of having good hair no?
Wouldn't just upping the lard in diet suffice? I can't imagine it being THAT much more effective than topically..

Nah, it actually improves the condition of your scalp just like other oils can (olive oil, coconut oil etc.). You would prob have to take a boat load of lard in order to see a difference in your hair due to the digestion process getting assimilated throughout the body (plus that is load of unneeded PUFA). You only like a teaspoon of lard and rub it in topically and let it sit for a few hours and wash it out in the shower, the longer it sits the better, I used to use it overnight for a brief period of time but couldn't stand the smell of pillow after a while.

 

[Aleksandr]

Id seriously recommend rubbing lard or tallow into your hair if ur a fast oxidiser with diffuse thinning

might work but also will make my hair look greasy and oil which defeats the purpose of having good hair no?
Wouldn't just upping the lard in diet suffice? I can't imagine it being THAT much more effective than topically..

Nah, it actually improves the condition of your scalp just like other oils can (olive oil, coconut oil etc.). You would prob have to take a boat load of lard in order to see a difference in your hair due to the digestion process getting assimilated throughout the body (plus that is load of unneeded PUFA). You only like a teaspoon of lard and rub it in topically and let it sit for a few hours and wash it out in the shower, the longer it sits the better, I used to use it overnight for a brief period of time but couldn't stand the smell of pillow after a while.

You could try tallow too, or any kind of animal fat. I think tallow has less pufas than lard if ur worried about that

 

[JonnyCraig]

Hi All,

I am on 2 days on using 22mg zinc (zinc picolinate - swanson brand) & 10mg manganese (Manganese Bisglycinate - trophic brand).

Shedding is certainly way down.

I stopped oral progesterone 100mg and tyromix a week or so ago and it seems shedding just keeps going down and down.

I did have some odd heart palpitations that occurred today after waking up.. lasted 30mins or so.. no pain at all but quite obvious palpitations. Could this be from the manganese at all? Never really had this before. Would seem odd that the manganese caused it too though. Perhaps just a fluke but thought I'd report it to see if anyone else has anything similar from using this combo.

 

[Scenes]

Do you think the salt and polysorbate/lecithin is just for slick bald areas or for thinning? I’m wary of pulling hair out while scrubbing.

 

[freeflow]

I buzzed my hair on the 22th of august so I can monitor my progess of hair regrowth or loss easily.
This is the before-after pics, I took the after yesterday.
I have pfs so my androgens are not working strongly.
Its insane how much better my hair got in 45 days.
Im doing scalp massage, salt rubbing, taurine rubbing and ice rubbing sometimes. I used apple cider vinegar 4-5 times during shower.

I think when I cured my pfs I will still be able to maintain the hair at least but ofc will have to do the protocol very strictly.

 

[TubZy]

might work but also will make my hair look greasy and oil which defeats the purpose of having good hair no?
Wouldn't just upping the lard in diet suffice? I can't imagine it being THAT much more effective than topically..

Nah, it actually improves the condition of your scalp just like other oils can (olive oil, coconut oil etc.). You would prob have to take a boat load of lard in order to see a difference in your hair due to the digestion process getting assimilated throughout the body (plus that is load of unneeded PUFA). You only like a teaspoon of lard and rub it in topically and let it sit for a few hours and wash it out in the shower, the longer it sits the better, I used to use it overnight for a brief period of time but couldn't stand the smell of pillow after a while.

You could try tallow too, or any kind of animal fat. I think tallow has less pufas than lard if ur worried about that

Never tried tallow, could work as well. Have you experienced with it before?

 

[TubZy]

Hi All,

I am on 2 days on using 22mg zinc (zinc picolinate - swanson brand) & 10mg manganese (Manganese Bisglycinate - trophic brand).

Shedding is certainly way down.

I stopped oral progesterone 100mg and tyromix a week or so ago and it seems shedding just keeps going down and down.

I did have some odd heart palpitations that occurred today after waking up.. lasted 30mins or so.. no pain at all but quite obvious palpitations. Could this be from the manganese at all? Never really had this before. Would seem odd that the manganese caused it too though. Perhaps just a fluke but thought I'd report it to see if anyone else has anything similar from using this combo.

Sweet, keep us posted. Some claimed better skin and nails too when they did the combo.

 

[happenstance]

The salt rubbing isn't a new thing, I tried it a few months back after reading about it online. I damaged my hair badly, really think you have to buzz or shave to do it. I have tried adding table salt to my shampoo and it dissolved nicely. I will try a derma roller to damage my scalp plus lecithin.

 

[Aleksandr]

Nah, it actually improves the condition of your scalp just like other oils can (olive oil, coconut oil etc.). You would prob have to take a boat load of lard in order to see a difference in your hair due to the digestion process getting assimilated throughout the body (plus that is load of unneeded PUFA). You only like a teaspoon of lard and rub it in topically and let it sit for a few hours and wash it out in the shower, the longer it sits the better, I used to use it overnight for a brief period of time but couldn't stand the smell of pillow after a while.

You could try tallow too, or any kind of animal fat. I think tallow has less pufas than lard if ur worried about that

Yep dont think it smells as much as lard
Never tried tallow, could work as well. Have you experienced with it before?

 

[JDD]

Any thoughts on how long is a safe amount of time to take zinc+manganese combo?

 

[TubZy]

You could try tallow too, or any kind of animal fat. I think tallow has less pufas than lard if ur worried about that

Yep dont think it smells as much as lard
Never tried tallow, could work as well. Have you experienced with it before?

Nah, never tried it. Would be interesting, but given it is a fat/oil probably takes a long time to absorb into scalp, either overnight or for few hours.

 

[JonnyCraig]

Any thoughts on how long is a safe amount of time to take zinc+manganese combo?

Good question.

Also, wonder if Gbold has more thoughts on what else we should be doing/using to combat hair loss (AGA type).

Is there a specific diet we should adhere to? (I know he likes seafood, etc)

Are there things we should avoid eating in general?

What else can/should we be doing?

 

[TubZy]

Any thoughts on how long is a safe amount of time to take zinc+manganese combo?

Only thing I can think of in the long run is copper depletion possibly

 

[Aleksandr]

Any thoughts on how long is a safe amount of time to take zinc+manganese combo?

I think he inferred a year or so, combined with the salt scrubs and lethicin on the scalp

 

[Milky]

Any thoughts on how long is a safe amount of time to take zinc+manganese combo?

I think he inferred a year or so, combined with the salt scrubs and lethicin on the scalp

Someone asked about this on the old forum:

Sorry to interrupt, but is there a time to stop Zinc 25 + Manganese 10?
Like is the balance restored after say 3-4 weeks or does one need to take it continously ?

gbolduev: may be 2-3 months

 

[Aleksandr]

Any thoughts on how long is a safe amount of time to take zinc+manganese combo?

I think he inferred a year or so, combined with the salt scrubs and lethicin on the scalp

Someone asked about this on the old forum:

Sorry to interrupt, but is there a time to stop Zinc 25 + Manganese 10?
Like is the balance restored after say 3-4 weeks or does one need to take it continously ?

gbolduev: may be 2-3 months

Ah thanks lol. I think the year must be referring to the salt scrub and lethicin