Feeling low and Seeking Support

djohn051

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This past weekend, and for the first time in two years, I had a girl in my room and had sex (if you could call it that). My erection was good for about 10 seconds then I could just feel it deflate and be completely half hard while I went through the motions. On top of this, I had zero sensation at all. This lasted like 20 minutes and was completely embarrassing, I didn't even orgasm. After she left I completely broke down. I just feel so hopeless and defeated right now.

I tried 4 weeks of R-Andro (400mg per day) then after the cycle, which ended about a month ago, I've been taking the following everyday:
- 3000mg tribulus
- 1200mg Maca
- 60mg Horny goat weed
- 90mg of green tea extract
- 90mg Daminana
- 1500mg Betaine HCL
- 50 mg Zinc Citrate
- Centrum Strong multivitamin

Some additional information:
- Two weeks ago I did a 4-day fast with only water
- Heavy lifting about 3/4 times per week
- Haven't ejaculated/masturbated in 3+ weeks
- Keto diet with intermittent fasting

I just got a new job and I'm graduating my MSc on Sunday, but I really can't feel happy because it feels like a major part of my life has just been devastated for 2 years.
 

aztec

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@djohn051 you will be okay pal and never give up. Remember these moments because it will be worth it once you beat this mess. Have you done a hair test yet? Post your blood labs on your log. Perhaps a progesterone cycle like @Jack17 might be a great option.
 
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djohn051

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@djohn051 you will be okay pal and never give up. Remember these moments because it will be worth it once you beat this mess. Have you done a hair test yet? Post your blood labs on your log. Perhaps a progesterone cycle like @Jack17 might be a great option.

Thanks for the kind words. I'm trying, but it feels endless...

I've just requested that my blood labs be released to me so hopefully I can post them in the coming weeks. Is a hair test for vitamin/mineral levels? I've never had that done. Maybe I'll try the progesterone cycle, although I don't really know where to get that? Is it injected?
 

Niles

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This past weekend, and for the first time in two years, I had a girl in my room and had sex (if you could call it that). My erection was good for about 10 seconds then I could just feel it deflate and be completely half hard while I went through the motions. On top of this, I had zero sensation at all. This lasted like 20 minutes and was completely embarrassing, I didn't even orgasm. After she left I completely broke down. I just feel so hopeless and defeated right now.

I tried 4 weeks of R-Andro (400mg per day) then after the cycle, which ended about a month ago, I've been taking the following everyday:
- 3000mg tribulus
- 1200mg Maca
- 60mg Horny goat weed
- 90mg of green tea extract
- 90mg Daminana
- 1500mg Betaine HCL
- 50 mg Zinc Citrate
- Centrum Strong multivitamin

Some additional information:
- Two weeks ago I did a 4-day fast with only water
- Heavy lifting about 3/4 times per week
- Haven't ejaculated/masturbated in 3+ weeks
- Keto diet with intermittent fasting

I just got a new job and I'm graduating my MSc on Sunday, but I really can't feel happy because it feels like a major part of my life has just been devastated for 2 years.
Dude, new job? Just graduated? You're killing it! Your sex life WILL improve in time, but right now while you're struggling, be grateful for the growth you can achieve in other areas of your life. I'm a very strong believer in making personal development beyond your PFS symptoms an integral part of recovery. Some days, no matter how well you treat your body, it just won't cooperate, and on these days, you can focus on making gains in other aspects of your life. And it sounds like you're in a position to succeed, man.

Otherwise, if sexual sides are your main issue, get hormones and hair tested. Look at your prog levels and see if it may make sense to try RU, Ella, or prog cycles. It seems that guys who struggle mainly with sexual sides respond well to these options. If you have more patience/risk aversion, try ARL.

Also, pick up some generic Cialis from alldaychemist so that you can have some insurance in a pinch. It'll help get the job done while you're recovering. Even though my sexual sides are pretty shitty, I've got a regular hookup who has no idea that I have any issues because Cialis helps out a couple times a week.
 
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hairsuit

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Dude, new job? Just graduated? You're killing it! Your sex life WILL improve in time, but right now while you're struggling, be grateful for the growth you can achieve in other areas of your life. I'm a very strong believer in making personal development beyond your PFS symptoms an integral part of recovery. Some days, no matter how well you treat your body, it just won't cooperate, and on these days, you can focus on making gains in other aspects of your life. And it sounds like you're in a position to succeed, man.

Otherwise, if sexual sides are your main issue, get hormones and hair tested. Look at your prog levels and see if it may make sense to try RU, Ella, or prog cycles. It seems that guys who struggle mainly with sexual sides respond well to these options. If you have more patience/risk aversion, try ARL.

Also, pick up some generic Cialis from alldaychemist so that you can have some insurance in a pinch. It'll help get the job done while you're recovering. Even though my sexual sides are pretty shitty, I've got a regular hookup who has no idea that I have any issues because Cialis helps out a couple times a week.
@Niles does alldaychemist work in the US?
 

Niles

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aztec

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@djohn051 email Catherine from ARL for hair mineral test: [email protected]

The progesterone cycle with ru 486 or Ella can be found on @Jack17 log. The progesteron is topical and they are running it on the scrotum area. Check out the log they made.
 

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@djohn051 hang in there man. You should have hair analysis done which would give you a better picture of what you should do. How are your non sexual symptoms? How long have you had PFS?

I see you are trying with your supplement stack there- but those supps are more so as symptom helpers rather than healers. I think with the stuff on this site you can get healed in the not so distant future if you follow it right.

There are so many ideas and things we are working on right now. Guys are experimenting with @Helen 's ideas and I am a huge beneficiary of this I must say. Get the hair test man and would love to hear your non-sexual symptoms. Would give a more clear point of view of what you have to do.

The waiting game sucks it really does. Not knowing when you can do that stuff again. I thought I was going to have to wait years again to have sex again last summer and I was ready for it by October.

When you eventually start feeling that libido feeling, all the work you put in for it will be so worth it. Libido is such a great feeling man- make finding it again your life and you will succeed.
 

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Hey man @djohn051

First, get some Liquid Cia as others have said... use a small 2mg dose every other nite... this will bring some activity back to your erections but isn't a real cure, it's just a band aid... that's why I suggest a low dose

The fact you had any erection naturally with a woman is a huge sign as to which parts work and which part needs repair. Daytime erections require acetylcholine as well as other neurotransmitters... so the fact you had an erection shows the overall issue is likely anxiety and mental related rather than blood flow or penile related. Some other causes of ED are veinous leakage which is actual damage (still repairable though but not likely your issue) so kinda try to see the bright side there.

I actually want you to stop green tea or zinc... personally, the jury is out on zinc at that dosage... and green tea's negative effect on DHT... I don't trust it yet
 

djohn051

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Dude, new job? Just graduated? You're killing it! Your sex life WILL improve in time, but right now while you're struggling, be grateful for the growth you can achieve in other areas of your life. I'm a very strong believer in making personal development beyond your PFS symptoms an integral part of recovery. Some days, no matter how well you treat your body, it just won't cooperate, and on these days, you can focus on making gains in other aspects of your life. And it sounds like you're in a position to succeed, man.

Otherwise, if sexual sides are your main issue, get hormones and hair tested. Look at your prog levels and see if it may make sense to try RU, Ella, or prog cycles. It seems that guys who struggle mainly with sexual sides respond well to these options. If you have more patience/risk aversion, try ARL.

Also, pick up some generic Cialis from alldaychemist so that you can have some insurance in a pinch. It'll help get the job done while you're recovering. Even though my sexual sides are pretty shitty, I've got a regular hookup who has no idea that I have any issues because Cialis helps out a couple times a week.

Thank you very much for the kind words. I do try to be grateful for the successes I have achieved in my life, but it can be hard sometimes to not fall into a hole in relation to all of this. I will take a look into some of the stuff that you have recommended I do. Unfortunately I am in Canada so I cannot order from alldaychemist.
 

djohn051

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@djohn051 hang in there man. You should have hair analysis done which would give you a better picture of what you should do. How are your non sexual symptoms? How long have you had PFS?

I see you are trying with your supplement stack there- but those supps are more so as symptom helpers rather than healers. I think with the stuff on this site you can get healed in the not so distant future if you follow it right.

There are so many ideas and things we are working on right now. Guys are experimenting with @Helen 's ideas and I am a huge beneficiary of this I must say. Get the hair test man and would love to hear your non-sexual symptoms. Would give a more clear point of view of what you have to do.

The waiting game sucks it really does. Not knowing when you can do that stuff again. I thought I was going to have to wait years again to have sex again last summer and I was ready for it by October.

When you eventually start feeling that libido feeling, all the work you put in for it will be so worth it. Libido is such a great feeling man- make finding it again your life and you will succeed.

Thanks for the encouragement!

My non-sexual sides were never a big issue, fortunately. I developed a bit of gyno in the first few months after quitting Fin, or at least that's when I started to notice it and had chest tenderness. That tenderness doesn't happen anymore. I guess I also have barely any sebum development on my skin, limited body odor, and lesser body hair (though this has been improving and I am developing hair where I never had). I have had PFS for nearly 2 years, although what I really think happened was I tried quitting Finasteride once, had a crash, then my hairloss anxiety got the best of me and I got back on for another year before quitting for good, which was 2 years ago. So in total, my major sexual sides have probably been going on for about three years.
 

djohn051

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Hey man @djohn051

First, get some Liquid Cia as others have said... use a small 2mg dose every other nite... this will bring some activity back to your erections but isn't a real cure, it's just a band aid... that's why I suggest a low dose

The fact you had any erection naturally with a woman is a huge sign as to which parts work and which part needs repair. Daytime erections require acetylcholine as well as other neurotransmitters... so the fact you had an erection shows the overall issue is likely anxiety and mental related rather than blood flow or penile related. Some other causes of ED are veinous leakage which is actual damage (still repairable though but not likely your issue) so kinda try to see the bright side there.

I actually want you to stop green tea or zinc... personally, the jury is out on zinc at that dosage... and green tea's negative effect on DHT... I don't trust it yet

Unfortunately I am in Canada so I don't really know where to get liquid Cia.

Is that the case for me even if my erection wasn't really super stiff? That could potentially point to some damage still, no?

All those herbs I take, for the most part are in a single pill. I'll keep that in mind though when this course runs out. The Zinc is a surprise though, why is the jury out on that?

Thanks!
 

Niles

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Thank you very much for the kind words. I do try to be grateful for the successes I have achieved in my life, but it can be hard sometimes to not fall into a hole in relation to all of this. I will take a look into some of the stuff that you have recommended I do. Unfortunately I am in Canada so I cannot order from alldaychemist.
I feel you man, I definitely have those days of hopelessness too. Hell, before PFS I had days like that about my hairloss :p but that just goes to show how powerful the mind is - able to take a problem and let its negativity dull the positive aspects of your life. Practicing mindfulness dutifully over the long-term can really help with this.

Also, try this site for some liquid tadalfil (Cialis):

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