Food, Fasting, Nightshades, Inhibitors

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Many foods contain inhibitors such as trypsin, phytic acid, saponin etc.

Could we be in a state when initially crashing that our bodies are made extremely sensitive to these inhibitors?

Might avoiding these foods be an additional reason for improving during fasting?

Is it improtant is it to avoid nightshades?

Is there record of anyone consuming a nightshade and inhibitor free diet among our ranks?
 
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Many foods contain inhibitors such as trypsin, phytic acid, saponin

Could we be in a state when initially crashing that our bodies are made extremely sensitive to these inhibitors?

Might avoiding these foods be an additional reason for improving during fasting?

Is it improtant is it to avoid nightshades?

Is there record of anyone consuming a nightshade and inhibitor free diet among our ranks?

@Helen @Boris @Cdsnuts @Canari

Anyone have an insight or opinion on this?
I was thinking of two possibilities

1. the body drains out all nutrition concentration we had stored up or it quickly burns it up for some reason.
So we are in negative nutrition but somehow the body will always still retain fat. Then we continue eating foods with inhibitors and nothing is absorbed or helps because we are in negative. Also, the gut is altered so there is change in absorption there too.

2. The body has little to no enzymes to process the naturally occuring inhibitors of foods. Or the enzymes have been altered.
This coupled with option one is part od the phenomena we see.

I bring this up because I feel it might explain why some people have extreme improvments during fasting and why people do well on elimination diets. Of course this might only be one piece of the puzzle.
 
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Interesting angle. I’ve read of a few people who couldn’t resolve their leaky gut and gastro issues until they tried a lectin avoidance diet, which completely cured their issues.

I don’t know if anyone has tried this before?

6 Foods That Are High in Lectins
 

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Interesting angle. I’ve read of a few people who couldn’t resolve their leaky gut and gastro issues until they tried a lectin avoidance diet, which completely cured their issues.

I don’t know if anyone has tried this before?

6 Foods That Are High in Lectins

I never went completely all out on this but I was close. Like 90%.

Lectins can definitely hurt a struggling immune system. It seems if TH1 dominance more so than TH2 but I think can help both.

This is reason why I like sprouted nuts, sprouted flours (buckwheat, Millet, brown rice), sprouted rices and pastas.

There are so many avoidance diets for types of plant toxins (oxalates, salicylates too) or specific carbs like FODMAPs for sibo. Organic acids testing can help decipher which direction to take.

But a healthy body, in balance, at the end of the day should be able to handle all of these.
 

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I never went completely all out on this but I was close. Like 90%.

Lectins can definitely hurt a struggling immune system. It seems if TH1 dominance more so than TH2 but I think can help both.

This is reason why I like sprouted nuts, sprouted flours (buckwheat, Millet, brown rice), sprouted rices and pastas.

There are so many avoidance diets for types of plant toxins (oxalates, salicylates too) or specific carbs like FODMAPs for sibo. Organic acids testing can help decipher which direction to take.

But a healthy body, in balance, at the end of the day should be able to handle all of these.

Is Sorghum ok for us? I havent found much on any inhibitors present in it.

The organic acid test tells us which fruits to avoid? so its not an enzyme deficiency or disorder...its lack of acids???
 

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Sprouted sorghum and only that.

Don’t pair it with much else. Just do like sorghum pancakes and see how you react. Getting some good sprouted grains in can really help. Buckwheat good, millet too and brown rice. All sprouted.

Oats don’t need to be sprouted. Rolled oats are good. This all best for a slow oxidizer.
 

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Elimination diet seems to be foundational to many healing protocols floating out there.

Most of these "experts" claim that we are eating many fruits and vegetables we arent meant to consume and its making us sick.
And many people then have improvement when they change diet.

But the root cause of getting sick has more to do with outside substances i.e. pharma, herbs, heavy smoking/drinking.

All of the compromise the gut, acid, linings, enzymes etc. When these are damaged, then one is more sensitive to the anti-nutrients in fruits and veggies.

Why do these health gurus leave out the nuances of the issue? They just say "we didnt evolve to eat this or that" or "That wasnt our original diet and its not specific to your blood type".

Maybe for a pregnant woman its best to limit anti-nutrient fruits/veggies (such as soy) and consume minerals/electrolytes and vitamins from meat and water sources.

 
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