Gbolduevs Mineral Protocol for PFS

[Aleksandr]

Gbold you said you would post a protocol with exact dosages of what you did when you felt better. The last few posts i've seen from you seem to indicate you're completely back to normal pre-PFS. Can you please clarify the protocol for us now? I've tried to piece together information from here and there based on what you're doing. Heres my understanding:


Gbolduevs PFS Mineral Protocol:
Potassium - 3000mg [RDI: 4700mg, no max given]
Magnesium - 700mg [RDI: 400mg, no max given]
Copper - ??? (i assume 2 to 4mg) [RDI: 0.9-10mg]
Zinc - ??? (i assume 20-30mg) ***if you dont use this as well you might lose a lot of hair [RDI: 11-40mg]

(Should you follow this once a day for 2 weeks?)


For hair growth after pfs protocol:
Zinc 30-20mg [RDI: 11-40mg]
Manganese 10mg [RDI: 2.3-11mg]
B2 - ??? [RDI: 1.3mg, no max given]
Iron - ??? [RDI: 8-45mg]

(Should you follow this once a day for 1 month?)

There was also mention of you taking calcium. What part of the protocol does this fit in? Is it necessary?

Do you recommend certain types of minerals? I.e. just for magnesium there are;
Magnesium Oxide. ...
Magnesium Citrate. ...
Magnesium Orotate. ...
Magnesium Chloride. ...
Magnesium Lactate. ...
Magnesium Sulfate. ...
Magnesium Carbonate...

If you could clarify this i'm sure a lot of people would benefit. Thanks [mention]Gbolduev[/mention]




NOTE:

He responded further down in this thread. His protocol he hasn't tested in the lab yet so he didn't want to give it out, but its this:

3000 potassium chloride, (1/8 th of tea spoon)
magnesium gluconate 500-700
copper 4-6mg
zinc 30mg
taurine 2g
b2 -100
boron 2
calcium 200
Also I take ACE here and there 250mg

after a while
once a week thorne
and iron with manganese


From gbold in another thread
"magnesium potassium copper, b2, zinc, boron, and ace"

 

[JonnyCraig]

H recommends Iron? Like a chelated iron? (ferrochel)

 

[Snell1234]

Another absolute dog's breakfast the explanations of the protocol he's given us. He needs to stop making things up on the run and having a go at anyone who asks what the protocol is (saying it's been clearly set out when it hasn't) and list exactly what the protocol is including dosage amounts. This will be about the 10th protocol now he's had for us. Just stating facts.

 

[Helen]

I did not give out any protocols since I did not test it yet. I mentioned what I am taking now. that is all. I mentioned if people wanted to take anything, then take JOEKOOLS protocol for now. I am not sure how many times I need to mention this.

I am not sure why more and more threads are being created on this topic. This confuses and mixes people. There is PFS thread that we are discussing this in . And I did not post my final protocol there yet

MArch, i thought you are post SSRI?

 

[Helen]

Another absolute dog's breakfast the explanations of the protocol he's given us. He needs to stop making things up on the run and having a go at anyone who asks what the protocol is (saying it's been clearly set out when it hasn't) and list exactly what the protocol is including dosage amounts. This will be about the 10th protocol now he's had for us. Just stating facts.

10th protocol? that you keep making up? I am not giving out any protocols yet. Use JoeKool dosages

 

[Snell1234]

Another absolute dog's breakfast the explanations of the protocol he's given us. He needs to stop making things up on the run and having a go at anyone who asks what the protocol is (saying it's been clearly set out when it hasn't) and list exactly what the protocol is including dosage amounts. This will be about the 10th protocol now he's had for us. Just stating facts.

10th protocol? that you keep making up?

Haha I knew you would take the bait at that! In all seriousness, I'm not even completely sure what joekool's is. When you get a chance, can you set it out clearly in one post so we all have something we can reference. There's too much confusion at the moment for me anyway.

 

[Helen]

Another absolute dog's breakfast the explanations of the protocol he's given us. He needs to stop making things up on the run and having a go at anyone who asks what the protocol is (saying it's been clearly set out when it hasn't) and list exactly what the protocol is including dosage amounts. This will be about the 10th protocol now he's had for us. Just stating facts.

10th protocol? that you keep making up?

Haha I knew you would take the bait at that! In all seriousness, I'm not even completely sure what joekool's is. When you get a chance, can you set it out clearly in one post so we all have something we can reference. There's too much confusion at the moment for me anyway.

You seem to confuse yourself bud. LOL JoeKool outlined the protocol pretty straight forward. His dosages seem ok

 

[wuf]

10th protocol? that you keep making up?

Haha I knew you would take the bait at that! In all seriousness, I'm not even completely sure what joekool's is. When you get a chance, can you set it out clearly in one post so we all have something we can reference. There's too much confusion at the moment for me anyway.

You seem to confuse yourself bud. LOL JoeKool outlined the protocol pretty straight forward. His dosages seem ok

Tha's fine Gbold, we all have just to thank you for your help.
But really it's hard for me to understand why, the reason, instead of keeping replying us....
Why don't you WRITE out a protocol...you simply could WRITE 5 rows of protocol!!
I don't get it really.
Ok, you don't have a final protocol??...You claimed you got cured for the second time from PFS and this last time in 1 week.
Tell us the exact protocol you used (with dosages)...is it a secret you can't share?
I don't get it really.
It seems like if you are trying to hide something and keep people confusing following you and giving them 50% answers or 3/4 answers with big logical mechanism that nobody would ever know about...What for?? What is your goal?
People is "desperate" over here, they want life back.
You are helping us and we all thank you.

But seriously I don't get why not WRITING a protocol, clear once and forever without useless conversations about "You should ask JoeKool, you should read back on the forum, You should remember, I already told it 2 months ago....etc""....What for?? What for??
I seriously want to understand what for? Is it useful??
I think it is not since there are almost 30 guys asking you "the protocol" you used or you think could be used.

Acting your way makes me think you do not have a protocol, acting this way makes me think you even didn't take Finasteride for the second time and acting this way makes me think you didn't use any protocol to get rid again.
So, please let's speak clear please.

We are all grooved men, no time to loose keeping reading redundant questions and redundant answers that finally are usefull.
Are you going to WRITE a clear protocol you think could be used or that you used (if you ever used) or not?

If NOT, text it, so guys know it and we won't waste time trying to ask you again and again or searching for something that will never come.
Sorry to be honest and direct but I keep 40+ minutes every day to read the forum between my Financial job and (even if sometime I don not understand it all) it is redundant and ridicolous at my eyes seeing guys (me as well) keeping asking you for a simple Protocol from 2 weeks and still don't have an answer. LOL
Don't take it personally, I just want to understand.
Thank you anyway.

 

[Helen]

Haha I knew you would take the bait at that! In all seriousness, I'm not even completely sure what joekool's is. When you get a chance, can you set it out clearly in one post so we all have something we can reference. There's too much confusion at the moment for me anyway.

You seem to confuse yourself bud. LOL JoeKool outlined the protocol pretty straight forward. His dosages seem ok

Tha's fine Gbold, we all have just to thank you for your help.
But really it's hard for me to understand why, the reason, instead of keeping replying us....
Why don't you WRITE out a protocol...you simply could WRITE 5 rows of protocol!!
I don't get it really.
Ok, you don't have a final protocol??...You claimed you got cured for the second time from PFS and this last time in 1 week.
Tell us the exact protocol you used (with dosages)...is it a secret you can't share?
I don't get it really.
It seems like if you are trying to hide something and keep people confusing following you and giving them 50% answers or 3/4 answers with big logical mechanism that nobody would ever know about...What for?? What is your goal?
People is "desperate" over here, they want life back.
You are helping us and we all thank you.

But seriously I don't get why not WRITING a protocol, clear once and forever without useless conversations about "You should ask JoeKool, you should read back on the forum, You should remember, I already told it 2 months ago....etc""....What for?? What for??
I seriously want to understand what for? Is it useful??
I think it is not since there are almost 30 guys asking you "the protocol" you used or you think could be used.

Acting your way makes me think you do not have a protocol, acting this way makes me think you even didn't take Finasteride for the second time and acting this way makes me think you didn't use any protocol to get rid again.
So, please let's speak clear please.

We are all grooved men, no time to loose keeping reading redundant questions and redundant answers that finally are usefull.
Are you going to WRITE a clear protocol you think could be used or that you used (if you ever used) or not?

If NOT, text it, so guys know it and we won't waste time trying to ask you again and again or searching for something that will never come.
Sorry to be honest and direct but I keep 40+ minutes every day to read the forum between my Financial job and (even if sometime I don not understand it all) it is redundant and ridicolous at my eyes seeing guys (me as well) keeping asking you for a simple Protocol from 2 weeks and still don't have an answer. LOL
Don't take it personally, I just want to understand.
Thank you anyway.

You see I am writing the same thing for the 20s times already. I am not going to post my protocol until I test the outcomes of it in the lab. Is this so hard to understand?

By asking me over and over , and creating these threads you are wasting my time. And I am very busy.

There is PFS thread. I outlined what \I am taking there. I said if anyone wanted to use this before I tested the outcomes. Use JoeKool dosages. Is this not CLEAR? I am taking exactly same things

I am not giving people 50% or 3/4 answers. I am trying thing out myself now. This is just ridiculous.

People are trying to jump on protocols that I did not even test out myself yet? and then they complain I did not give them the protocol? Are you serious?

Forcing me to outline the protocol which is not ready yet? I keep saying it is not ready . and you keep bugging the shit out of me.

 

[Helen]

I am taking 3000 potassium chloride, (1/8 th of tea spoon)
magnesium gluconate 500-700
copper 4-6mg
zinc 30mg
taurine 2g
b2 -100
boron 2
calcium 200
Also I take ACE here and there 250mg
Also I added tons of spinach to this protocol
after a while
once a week thorne
and iron with manganese

the outcomes of this I did not test in the lab yet, so I did not want to post this without adjustments. I do feel back to normal though. but I wanted to see blood, to make sure I am balanced. but you keep asking me

DONT ASK ME ABOUT THIS PROTOCOL. This is what I am taking and it is experimental and I will be adjusting it based on my blood tests. and this will give me final protocol.

Being back to normal and being balanced. 2 different things.

 

[Snell1234]

I am taking 3000 potassium chloride, (1/8 th of tea spoon)
magnesium gluconate 500-700
copper 4-6mg
zinc 30mg
taurine 2g
b2 -100
boron 2
calcium 200

after a while
once a week thorne
and iron with manganese

the outcomes of this I did not test in the lab yet, so I did not want to post this without adjustments. I do feel back to normal though. but I wanted to see blood, to make sure I am balanced. but you keep asking me

DONT ASK ME ABOUT THIS PROTOCOL. This is what I am taking and it is experimental and I will be adjusting it based on my blood tests. and this will give me final protocol.

Being back to normal and being balanced. 2 different things.

Thank you.

 

[wuf]

I am taking 3000 potassium chloride, (1/8 th of tea spoon)
magnesium gluconate 500-700
copper 4-6mg
zinc 30mg
taurine 2g
b2 -100
boron 2

after a while
once a week thorne
and iron with manganese

the outcomes of this I did not test in the lab yet, so I did not want to post this without adjustments. I do feel back to normal though. but I wanted to see blood, to make sure I am balanced. but you keep asking me

DONT ASK ME ABOUT THIS PROTOCOL. This is what I am taking. and I will be adjusting it based on my blood tests. and this will give me final protocol.

Great answer and I thank you personally for it.
I won't ask anything anymore about it, hope guys won't aswell...waiting from you for the update.
Thank you, I repeat...you are helping us and we all thank you.

 

[health]

I am taking 3000 potassium chloride, (1/8 th of tea spoon)
magnesium gluconate 500-700
copper 4-6mg
zinc 30mg
taurine 2g
b2 -100
boron 2
calcium 200
Also I take ACE here and there 250mg

after a while
once a week thorne
and iron with manganese

the outcomes of this I did not test in the lab yet, so I did not want to post this without adjustments. I do feel back to normal though. but I wanted to see blood, to make sure I am balanced. but you keep asking me

DONT ASK ME ABOUT THIS PROTOCOL. This is what I am taking and it is experimental and I will be adjusting it based on my blood tests. and this will give me final protocol.

Being back to normal and being balanced. 2 different things.

Knowing what that is and what that isn't - thank you.

 

[Snow1]

Cheers Gbolduev, personally I've suffered 8 years of this nightmare so what's another month or so to hold off until you do your lab stuff and advise further, it's also good to see how other people go on the various suggested protocols.

Guys as much as we want to improve we need to be patient, this is our body's we are dealing with here so be careful jumping on anything and everything at the drop of a hat.

It's so good to see progress been made, and some of the lads seeing great results based on your feedback, we have you to thank for that and you give hope to many.

Keep doing what you're doing, it's appreciated!

 

[Aleksandr]

MArch, i thought you are post SSRI?

Ok sorry for rushing you!! I need to be patient too.

I am post accutane (but don't have no libido symptoms, if that means anything). I thought SSRI / PFS / Accutane were all treated the same because they were all a progestin receptor issue? Are you sayin this protocol wont work for me?

 

[namaste]

I think some people could stand to be a little more patient around here. Trying to “bait” gbold and badger him about protocols isn’t really cool, IMO. Let the dude post when he feels like posting. We’ve all been dealing with this for a while and it probably won’t hurt any of us to wait a bit longer.

 

[Snell1234]

I think some people could stand to be a little more patient around here. Trying to “bait” gbold and badger him about protocols isn’t really cool, IMO. Let the dude post when he feels like posting. We’ve all been dealing with this for a while and it probably won’t hurt any of us to wait a bit longer.

We got a protocol out of what we said. It was a necessity he posted what he did as people were taking minerals and not getting it right. This has cleared it up. He is doing a good job for us but he was spending more time arguing why he won’t post his protocol instead of posting it which he ended up doing.

Do you have to whine at every chance you get when I say something that upsets you? Maybe you should put me on do not disturb as to not get offended by me.

 

[namaste]

I think the disconnect here lies in the fact that some people are looking for a silver bullet, one size fits all solution to their problems. I know because I was the same way for a while. What I realized during my four day water fast was that my journey is going to look different than that of every other user on this forum. It’s likely that I’ll have to do a lot of hard work on my own to find the minerals and medications that nudge my body back in the right direction. While this thought once caused me pain I think I’m at peace with it now.

 

[wuf]

I think some people could stand to be a little more patient around here. Trying to “bait” gbold and badger him about protocols isn’t really cool, IMO. Let the dude post when he feels like posting. We’ve all been dealing with this for a while and it probably won’t hurt any of us to wait a bit longer.

You are right..it is not cool.
But it was around 2 weeks people was asking and asking million times about the protocol, just to understand what he was using since he got Cured for the second time and we all are still not. Impatience is easy in this situation.
So I do also apologize to [mention]gbolduev[/mention] for the impatience. And maybe my english sounded rude.. hope not.

Now we have an idea of the protocol he used and people is free to choise what do do.

By the way thank you [mention]gbolduev[/mention] for the help you give us.

 

[expendable]

Where does the licorice root and acetazolamide fit in to this? How come gbold didn't mention?