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Gbol's PFS Theory (quotes)
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Why would you increase 3 beta hsd. I am saying for you to decrease it.
I am saying that what is the mechanism by which ru 486 decreases it, since any progestin and any progesterone will decrease this enzyme. But you dont want that. You need to increase progesterone sensitivity for case 2. You can't take progesterone, it will decrease the sensitivity overtime and you will need more and more of it.
If you turn off the actual enzyme, then progesterone level will fall, and receptors will get upregulated. that is the idea for case 2.
I am just worried if RU486 not a progestin, since progestin with high potassium will actually lower 3beta hsd. progestin with low potassium will just increase the receptors.
You are in case 2. the idea is to lower 3 beta hsd for case 2. but not with any progesterone substance. Do you get it? You need to make your body want progesterone. How can you make it want progesterone with progesterone or progestin. You can't
You can make your body want progesterone only if you inhibit actual enzyme 3 beta HSD. And you have to do it not with something that activates progesterone receptors( progesterone , progestin,) you have to do it to an actual enzyme. Not a feedback loop.
that is why I am worried that RU489 just acts as a progestin and thus lowers 3 beta hsd.
This wont be good then
I am saying that what is the mechanism by which ru 486 decreases it, since any progestin and any progesterone will decrease this enzyme. But you dont want that. You need to increase progesterone sensitivity for case 2. You can't take progesterone, it will decrease the sensitivity overtime and you will need more and more of it.
If you turn off the actual enzyme, then progesterone level will fall, and receptors will get upregulated. that is the idea for case 2.
I am just worried if RU486 not a progestin, since progestin with high potassium will actually lower 3beta hsd. progestin with low potassium will just increase the receptors.
You are in case 2. the idea is to lower 3 beta hsd for case 2. but not with any progesterone substance. Do you get it? You need to make your body want progesterone. How can you make it want progesterone with progesterone or progestin. You can't
You can make your body want progesterone only if you inhibit actual enzyme 3 beta HSD. And you have to do it not with something that activates progesterone receptors( progesterone , progestin,) you have to do it to an actual enzyme. Not a feedback loop.
that is why I am worried that RU489 just acts as a progestin and thus lowers 3 beta hsd.
This wont be good then
but the easiest way is to regulate minerals, you dont even need these hormones
potassium makes progesterone and cortisol sensitive in the cell. potassium goes high , progesterone goes down, cortisol up. potassium goes down , progesterone goes up cortisol down
Any acid lowers potassium , copper lowers potassium, calcium chloride lowers potassium, estrogen lowers potassium
this what turns on the thyroid. your t3 goes higher. since potassium is a receptor for the T3 in the cell
Insulin puts potassium in the cell, alkalosis puts potassium in the cell, magnesium puts potassium in the cell, zinc puts potassium in the cell.
glucosteroids cause alkalosis, which has tons of potassium in the cell.
So in alkalosis there is a always a problem and potassium in the cell, is put not by insulin, not by zinc, but by alkalosis. And people experience diabetes like symptoms and castration
Usually body can restore the balance pretty quickly, and I think the reason it takes so long here to get back to normal is alkalosis.
But of course there are 2 cases.
potassium makes progesterone and cortisol sensitive in the cell. potassium goes high , progesterone goes down, cortisol up. potassium goes down , progesterone goes up cortisol down
Any acid lowers potassium , copper lowers potassium, calcium chloride lowers potassium, estrogen lowers potassium
this what turns on the thyroid. your t3 goes higher. since potassium is a receptor for the T3 in the cell
Insulin puts potassium in the cell, alkalosis puts potassium in the cell, magnesium puts potassium in the cell, zinc puts potassium in the cell.
glucosteroids cause alkalosis, which has tons of potassium in the cell.
So in alkalosis there is a always a problem and potassium in the cell, is put not by insulin, not by zinc, but by alkalosis. And people experience diabetes like symptoms and castration
Usually body can restore the balance pretty quickly, and I think the reason it takes so long here to get back to normal is alkalosis.
But of course there are 2 cases.
Most cases are when you take progestin, which tanks your 3 bet hsd. and then you come off, and you have low potassium, since your progesterone is not working as good anymore. So you end up with high progesterone and low potassium. If you take pottasium here you will make your progesterone even less sensitive overall. That is what you cant take anything that puts pottassium in the cell in this case. You need to take something that tanks it even more( like pinepollen, or estrogen or acids like aspirin. And you will feel low potassium symptoms, but only then body will upregulate your progesterone again. I hope you get that.
this is why when you take more progesterone, your potassium goes up and you feel better energy wise, but that lowers your 3 beta hsd.
And you dont feel any sensitivity.
this is why people just take progesterone and thyroid and say oh I am recovered. energy wise you are , but mojo will NOT be there.
this is why when you take more progesterone, your potassium goes up and you feel better energy wise, but that lowers your 3 beta hsd.
And you dont feel any sensitivity.
this is why people just take progesterone and thyroid and say oh I am recovered. energy wise you are , but mojo will NOT be there.
It is quite weird that after I explained the theory. Some people are still writing complete nonsense.
Just dont think, take 2 routes, progesterone or pinepollen. If you feel good on progesterone, dont take that route, it won't cure you. You will feell better on progesterone just with the energy, and when you come off. you will be worse off.
Just dont think, take 2 routes, progesterone or pinepollen. If you feel good on progesterone, dont take that route, it won't cure you. You will feell better on progesterone just with the energy, and when you come off. you will be worse off.
these are a couple examples of so called pro hair progesterone effects LOL from propecia forum.
Hairloss happens with low thyroid from DHT , and from high thyroid from protein wasting.
This is why propecia works. It modulates your potassium level to ideal by increasing or decreasing progesterone signaling based on the current progesterone levels. This is why it was invented.
If you have high thyroid and high potassium in the cell, taking progesterone will cause the hairloss, since that will put pressure on insulin, and your body will waste your hair for energy, it will just get super thin and fall off.
If you have low thyroid you will have low estrogen signaling ( since the body will try to not use copper and will keep your copper biounavailable not to supress potassium and DHT will be unopposed .
Low thyroid in these cases means potassium plus the thyroid. Potassium is the receptor for thyroid hormone. So if you have low potassium, no matter how high your t3 is , you will be hypothyroid.
This is why some people can stop hairloss with iodine, and some people will get hude hairloss on iodine, and this is not because it supressed your thyroid.
Since it is the same for T3 hormone, I saw some get their hair back on it , and I saw some lose all their hair on it.
So the hairloss also has at least 2 cases.
This is the reason I said Peating and Peat's ideas are for certain cases.
And ARL approach is the right one. You cant fix a person with respiratory acidosis using Peats ideas, you will kill him. That is why person who cant get rid of CO2, has very slow metabolism. And eating more sugar will screw those people even more.
Hairloss happens with low thyroid from DHT , and from high thyroid from protein wasting.
This is why propecia works. It modulates your potassium level to ideal by increasing or decreasing progesterone signaling based on the current progesterone levels. This is why it was invented.
If you have high thyroid and high potassium in the cell, taking progesterone will cause the hairloss, since that will put pressure on insulin, and your body will waste your hair for energy, it will just get super thin and fall off.
If you have low thyroid you will have low estrogen signaling ( since the body will try to not use copper and will keep your copper biounavailable not to supress potassium and DHT will be unopposed .
Low thyroid in these cases means potassium plus the thyroid. Potassium is the receptor for thyroid hormone. So if you have low potassium, no matter how high your t3 is , you will be hypothyroid.
This is why some people can stop hairloss with iodine, and some people will get hude hairloss on iodine, and this is not because it supressed your thyroid.
Since it is the same for T3 hormone, I saw some get their hair back on it , and I saw some lose all their hair on it.
So the hairloss also has at least 2 cases.
This is the reason I said Peating and Peat's ideas are for certain cases.
And ARL approach is the right one. You cant fix a person with respiratory acidosis using Peats ideas, you will kill him. That is why person who cant get rid of CO2, has very slow metabolism. And eating more sugar will screw those people even more.
May be some day you will understand what I am saying. You basically say the same things but with different words. Just for you to understand CO2 is a end result of metabolism. IF you cant get rid of CO2 properly , metabolism will be lowered.
The only fast metabolism possible is when you hyperventilate. You hyperventilate, your CO2 production in the cell goes up. Since if you have high CO2 that will cause acidosis, acidosis lowers potassium in the cell. LOWER potassium means lower CO2 production, since potassium is what makes the cell sensitive to thyroid hormone.
Acidosis lowers potassium in the cell. alkalosis increases potassium in the cell.
Potassium increases thyroid signaling. Now tell me how CO2 increases the metabolism again? LOL
This is exactly why people use caffeine. It increases adrenaline and increases your metabolism, since increases adrenaline hyperventilates you . then your venous CO2 falls down, and body allows metabolism to rise in the cell and increase CO2 production in the cell. For this you need methylation protocol and not caffeine LOL
Methionine restriction prolongs life cause it causes undermethylation, and thus you go into acidosis, and your metabolism is very very very LOW in acidosis. And you live longer like a turtle
It is not pleasant to live in the state of undermethylation
The only fast metabolism possible is when you hyperventilate. You hyperventilate, your CO2 production in the cell goes up. Since if you have high CO2 that will cause acidosis, acidosis lowers potassium in the cell. LOWER potassium means lower CO2 production, since potassium is what makes the cell sensitive to thyroid hormone.
Acidosis lowers potassium in the cell. alkalosis increases potassium in the cell.
Potassium increases thyroid signaling. Now tell me how CO2 increases the metabolism again? LOL
This is exactly why people use caffeine. It increases adrenaline and increases your metabolism, since increases adrenaline hyperventilates you . then your venous CO2 falls down, and body allows metabolism to rise in the cell and increase CO2 production in the cell. For this you need methylation protocol and not caffeine LOL
Methionine restriction prolongs life cause it causes undermethylation, and thus you go into acidosis, and your metabolism is very very very LOW in acidosis. And you live longer like a turtle
It is not pleasant to live in the state of undermethylation
I am not saying that it is good to hyperventilate all the time. But it will cause your metabolism to rise and create more CO2 in the cell if you ventilate properly. And hypoventilation seen in many people since they lack the adrenaline from undermethylation LOWERS metabolism. IT is a fact. This is what CFS is. This is why these people use caffeine to ventilate faster which allows the body to increase CO2 production in the cell.
You retain CO2= your potassium in the cell goes DOWN. In acidosis potassium goes down. NO POTASSIUM in the cell, no CO2 production in the cell. Since potassium in the cell = thyroid action. NO thyroid action nothing is burned.
You dont understand what I am saying. I have no more time to explain it.
My views are correct, since I understand all 12 body chemistries not just one. Ray Peats recs are for one body chemistry. He is probably like you experiemented on himself and then made conclusions for everyone LOL
I think people are so confused here it is not even funny. I prove with facts that Peat is WRONG and you still post his articles.
Very easy to test it. Check venous blood CO2. If your venous blood CO2 is low you will be fast oxidizer on the hairtest. If your CO2 in venous blood is high, you will be slow oxidizer on the hairtest.
the higher your venous CO2 level, the slower your oxidation rate will be. high CO2 level could be from methylation problem. from zinc deficiency, this is why zinc increases CO2 in the cell. since zinc converts CO2 in venous blood into bicarbonate this lowers CO2 in venous blood and and body is allowed to increase potassium in the cell to produce more CO2
this is simple ABGs. used in emergency rooms. This should be known by every doctor.
You retain CO2= your potassium in the cell goes DOWN. In acidosis potassium goes down. NO POTASSIUM in the cell, no CO2 production in the cell. Since potassium in the cell = thyroid action. NO thyroid action nothing is burned.
You dont understand what I am saying. I have no more time to explain it.
My views are correct, since I understand all 12 body chemistries not just one. Ray Peats recs are for one body chemistry. He is probably like you experiemented on himself and then made conclusions for everyone LOL
I think people are so confused here it is not even funny. I prove with facts that Peat is WRONG and you still post his articles.
Very easy to test it. Check venous blood CO2. If your venous blood CO2 is low you will be fast oxidizer on the hairtest. If your CO2 in venous blood is high, you will be slow oxidizer on the hairtest.
the higher your venous CO2 level, the slower your oxidation rate will be. high CO2 level could be from methylation problem. from zinc deficiency, this is why zinc increases CO2 in the cell. since zinc converts CO2 in venous blood into bicarbonate this lowers CO2 in venous blood and and body is allowed to increase potassium in the cell to produce more CO2
this is simple ABGs. used in emergency rooms. This should be known by every doctor.
Foundation of my theory is that finasteride acts like depo provera.( that is why I cited depo provera). Depo provera is researched a lot more. So go and research it. If you think there is only case 1 where it agonizes the receptors, then fine. 2 cases is just a theory based on what I saw with my own studies. and based on how other progestins work, including RU498, which I don't understand. To me it acts like a progestin which can agonize and antagonize the receptor same as depo provera.( that is why I said that I would not use it because I don;t know how it works)
I already mentioned if it acts like progestin it will be just like finasteride.
I am not here to do the research and cite some studies. I just posted to help.
I don't believe in studies, most of you dont understand them. They have specific context. Haidut posts studies constantly to fit his agenda. That is wrong and most of those claims are wrong. Like progesterone raises DHT and testosterone. WRONG
And all other ridiculous claims. I created a system in my lab, my own system based on my studies. I will never read ridiculous crap on pubmed anymore, it was a dead end. Most studies are paid by pharma to screw with you brain.
I did not want to get involved in the discussion here as I mentioned before. I got bombarded with questions all week, and now people want to discuss theory with me. with citing studies. Some say I did not come up with this stuff and copied it from some other forum? LOL
I dont care about fame or credibility , I am not Danny Roddy. I am not going to create videos, or sell supplements, or have websites. I am in another business field where I am very successful, so all this medical stuff is just a hobby.
I explained to you many things how I take them and how I tested them in my lab. If you don't get what I am saying then please don't tell me that I am not explaining it right
All I wanted you to know that finasteride acts like depo provera. THAT IS ALL. Now anyone with half of brain can figure out what to do. If you believe there is only one case. Fine , proceed with that.
Long posts that I posted about CO2 and how it all works. That stuff does not need studies, it needs simple medical school. Since anyone in the emergency room dealing with critical patients knows this stuff. This is basic fundamental knowledge. And not some bro science from some forum. And if you go buy a book on ABGs you will understand what I wrote
From reading this forum I understand that 95% have no clue what they are doing. And actually you don't understand what Peat wrote in his articles. If you could not understand what I wrote to you here, when I tried to completely chew it out, then you should never experiement with any supplements for sure.
Since I don't have any more time discussing things here. I have to say goodbye. This is not sustainable for me.
Sorry, if I offended anyone.
I already mentioned if it acts like progestin it will be just like finasteride.
I am not here to do the research and cite some studies. I just posted to help.
I don't believe in studies, most of you dont understand them. They have specific context. Haidut posts studies constantly to fit his agenda. That is wrong and most of those claims are wrong. Like progesterone raises DHT and testosterone. WRONG
And all other ridiculous claims. I created a system in my lab, my own system based on my studies. I will never read ridiculous crap on pubmed anymore, it was a dead end. Most studies are paid by pharma to screw with you brain.
I did not want to get involved in the discussion here as I mentioned before. I got bombarded with questions all week, and now people want to discuss theory with me. with citing studies. Some say I did not come up with this stuff and copied it from some other forum? LOL
I dont care about fame or credibility , I am not Danny Roddy. I am not going to create videos, or sell supplements, or have websites. I am in another business field where I am very successful, so all this medical stuff is just a hobby.
I explained to you many things how I take them and how I tested them in my lab. If you don't get what I am saying then please don't tell me that I am not explaining it right
All I wanted you to know that finasteride acts like depo provera. THAT IS ALL. Now anyone with half of brain can figure out what to do. If you believe there is only one case. Fine , proceed with that.
Long posts that I posted about CO2 and how it all works. That stuff does not need studies, it needs simple medical school. Since anyone in the emergency room dealing with critical patients knows this stuff. This is basic fundamental knowledge. And not some bro science from some forum. And if you go buy a book on ABGs you will understand what I wrote
From reading this forum I understand that 95% have no clue what they are doing. And actually you don't understand what Peat wrote in his articles. If you could not understand what I wrote to you here, when I tried to completely chew it out, then you should never experiement with any supplements for sure.
Since I don't have any more time discussing things here. I have to say goodbye. This is not sustainable for me.
Sorry, if I offended anyone.
CO2 is created in the cell as a byproduct of the metabolism. Then this CO2 goes into venous blood and then gets extracted by breathing. Zinc regulates this venous CO2 by converting it to bicarbonate. So the quantity of CO2 in your venous blood will depend 1) zinc status 2) your breathing ability( which depends on your sympathetic nervous system 1) adrenaline 2) calcium potassium balance). So if you have low adrenal activity you will have high CO2 in your venous blood. And your body will have to lower the production of CO2 in the cell. Since your body will do anything to hold the correct PH everywhere. How does your body turn off the Co2 production in the cell. It will lower potassium in the cell and increase calcium.
Potassium is the receptor of the thyroid hormone, no potassium NO THYROID even if you take gazzillion of T3. This is the low thyroid effect Peat is talking about. Do you take T3 in this case? LOL NO YOU DON'T. Peat gets out of it by taking caffeine. LOL
Now were talking wrong reasons here. You take caffeine to hyperventilate, YES you are. And this increases your metabolism.
I hope you get this Slader. This is the last time I am trying to explain this.
In the mountains, you hyperventilate since there is no oxygen. This will keep CO2 in your venous blood low, which will allow your body to increase metabolism in the cell and keep CO2 production high inside of the cell. THIS IS VERY PRO HAIR.
But living in the mountains causes resp alkalosis and not what Peat says. It is a fact.
SO it is not me who is explaining it not right. It is actually Peat who is explainin it WRONG.
The reason why Peat is talking about serotonin as anti thyroid, since serotonin opposes sympathetic nervous system and relaxes you actually lowering your breathing drive.
High serotonin will lead to high adrenaline but hypoventilation. This is where PEAT is wrong.
High serotonin will oppose your adrenaline and your body will try to increase adrenaline to ventilate faster. Serotonin is potassium in the cell. High potassium will slow down your heart rate. And you will need more adrenaline to ventilate correctly.
The case with high serotonin is one out of 12. And there are people with low serotonin and very low metabolism since adrenaline is also very low. sympathetic nervous system has GAS and BREAKS. GAS is adrenaline , BREAK serotonin. So if your gas adrenaline is not enough but your serotonin is normal, you will have underactive adrenaline response.( hypoventilation and high CO2 ) If you have normal gas adrenaline, but higher brakes - serotonin, you will have underactive adrenaline response also which will cause you to hypoventilate and retain CO2). 2 cases right here that need to be cured in 2 different ways.
They are also cases where 2 are overactive ( adrenaline is high and serotonin is low), and 2 underactive( adrenaline is low and serotonin high).
These are the examples of cases. And if someone with low serotonin lowers it even more. You can imagine what will happen. And if someone with low adrenaline, increases serotonin, that person will be also in trouble.
YOUR PH regulates all of this. SO first you have to know the PH . Then you have to see how this PH is regulated and how your systems are acting now to balance each other. IN sick people PH is screwed up since one of the systems went down and another system is trying to compensate for this causing side effects.
Lets say , you have low adrenaline== body will try to lower serotonin to compensate= this fixes PH, but causes depression.
I hope you read this Slader carefully and try to understand all of this.
That is why I said , it is not possible to talk about serotonin or cortisol as bad or good. They are bad or good only if they are out of balance.
One more time. you can't breath out CO2 correctly , or you increase carb loading without increasing adrenaline system. YOUR METABOLISM WILL SLOW DOWN.
This is why when you eat sugar and you exercise your are ok, but if you eat sugar and you sit on your ass you get fat, since your metabolism is LOWERED.
When sugar is not available your testosterone will go down, since 17 beta needs sugar and phosphorus. This is why bodybuilders are using pre training with caffeine and other adrenaline agonists to hyperventilate to allow your body to increase the metabolism in the cell. You hyperventilate this will lower CO2 and will force your body to make more CO2 in the cell.
This is why sports people when they quit sports go hypo thyroid. Since they eat the same, but they dont stress and produce less adrenaline. This creates too much CO2 and metabolism is SLOWED DOWN.
One more time. if you have high CO2 in your venous blood, your body will try to lower metabolism to keep the PH balance.
People with COPD will have panic attacks from high CO2. Also your immune system will just crash on high CO2. . http://www.pnas.org/content/106/44/18710.full.pdf It is known by anyone with COPD. And you tell me your bs here.
Hypercapnia: What Is It and How Is It Treated?
Just read the symptoms, do you recognize CFS. This is what it is.
This is why tons of people with CFS are helped by methylation protocol which increases adrenaline.
Slader,I cured myself within 2 months of crashing. And you are still sick. So please don't direct me on how I should think. and why would anyone listen to your opinions ? This actually amazes me. Sick person is talking and directing people on how it is supposed to be , and what the real reason is. This is a joke. You were not smart enough to figure it out. So now sit down and listen.
now the reason. your dht is not sensitive that is why you have high DHT in some cases. Expression of ar2 ( you call it this way, I don't) is a given here. And yes on my protocol it is one of the things I am going for. I stated that many times. there are 3 problems with progestins, progesterone, cortisol and AR.( one more time read depo provera wiki)
SO you need to cure 3, to get fixed. And all this AR 1 AR 2 expression are total nonsense, since expressions are regulated by minerals. Lets say if potassium is high and you take progesterone, your body will downregulate progesterone sensitivity. And you can call it progesterone receptors in the brain LOL( or PR2 expression ) , which is NONSENSE. These are the actual progesterone receptors.
DHT and AR expression and regulation is done by IRON. That is why hairloss happens when you have manganese imbalance , iron antagonist. Sodium also regulates manganese copper and iron.
And your brain is very sensitive to minerals, it upregulates or downregulates receptors based on mineral content in the brain.
I said exactly that, if you inhibit 5 ar , you will upregulate DHT sensitivity( if you call it 5 AR2 then fine who cares how you call it. I work on molecular level . so I will never call it 5 AR2. To me 5 AR2 does not exist. And this is exactly what these protocols are for.
For some reason you repeating everything I say with your wording and claim I am not having the right reasons.
Did you get fixed on progesterone? NO you did not. I got fixed totally . and fixed around 40 people from PFS. They are all cured.
And no -- one protocol did not work for all of them. IT DID NOT
Why dont you just post on some other thread, Slader. If you don't understand what I am saying. I have no desire to explain it to you. You just don't know biochemistry, I can't teach or help you. I have zero desire of doing that.
If you could not grap what I was saying about co2. why would I talk to you on the molecular biochemistry. It is complete nonsense.
If you dont understand that androsterone inhibits 5AR. I cant' help you further more.
taking high doses of progesterone will make you better when you come off of it. I wrote about it. and it has nothing to do with GABA per say. You just don't get what I wrote. If your body is pissing out zinc, you won't have GABA. I hope you understand that. And in case 1. body is losing zinc since progesterone is too sensitive. Zinc magnesium is needed for gaba conversions and also they are needed for progesterone production. IF progesterone is too sensitive , then body will lower zinc. I hope you get it. that is the reason you have low GABA and not how you say it, which is a bro science.
No zinc no GABA. and zinc wont work after finasterid in one of the cases.
And please stop judging me or going over my posts with your opinions which too me are totally worthless, since you know NOTHING.
There is no reason to look anymore, Slader. Just go on the protocol I gave you . If you were smart enough you would have found the cure youself, but you were not. You are still sick with the insensitive d1ck. I understand that PFS people act like pregnant women, but common why do you care about theories here. You are not able to understand it after 40 pages of explanations. You still talk complete nonsense. And don't even understand that I say exactly the same things about AR2 or whatever you call it.
And no---- the solutionswont be by increasing some imaginary 5 ar2 . It does not exist. Solution will be by increasing the number of AR receptors. that is all.
but if you increase the number of AR receptors( number of the receptors is not the actual number of some imaginary receptors LOL, it is the quantity of a certain mineral which will amplify the acting of a certain hormone). Like potassium amplifies the thyroid hormone and it is a receptor of thyroid hormone in the cell. Sodium amplified adrenaline and is the receptor of adrenaline in the cell. If you increase "number" of AR receptors. This wont fix your sugar problems. And it wont fix your thyroid problems, since one more time. you have 3 problems here. NOT ONE.
AR, CORTISOL AND PROGESTERONE. Progestins effect all 3.
Potassium is the receptor of the thyroid hormone, no potassium NO THYROID even if you take gazzillion of T3. This is the low thyroid effect Peat is talking about. Do you take T3 in this case? LOL NO YOU DON'T. Peat gets out of it by taking caffeine. LOL
Now were talking wrong reasons here. You take caffeine to hyperventilate, YES you are. And this increases your metabolism.
I hope you get this Slader. This is the last time I am trying to explain this.
In the mountains, you hyperventilate since there is no oxygen. This will keep CO2 in your venous blood low, which will allow your body to increase metabolism in the cell and keep CO2 production high inside of the cell. THIS IS VERY PRO HAIR.
But living in the mountains causes resp alkalosis and not what Peat says. It is a fact.
SO it is not me who is explaining it not right. It is actually Peat who is explainin it WRONG.
The reason why Peat is talking about serotonin as anti thyroid, since serotonin opposes sympathetic nervous system and relaxes you actually lowering your breathing drive.
High serotonin will lead to high adrenaline but hypoventilation. This is where PEAT is wrong.
High serotonin will oppose your adrenaline and your body will try to increase adrenaline to ventilate faster. Serotonin is potassium in the cell. High potassium will slow down your heart rate. And you will need more adrenaline to ventilate correctly.
The case with high serotonin is one out of 12. And there are people with low serotonin and very low metabolism since adrenaline is also very low. sympathetic nervous system has GAS and BREAKS. GAS is adrenaline , BREAK serotonin. So if your gas adrenaline is not enough but your serotonin is normal, you will have underactive adrenaline response.( hypoventilation and high CO2 ) If you have normal gas adrenaline, but higher brakes - serotonin, you will have underactive adrenaline response also which will cause you to hypoventilate and retain CO2). 2 cases right here that need to be cured in 2 different ways.
They are also cases where 2 are overactive ( adrenaline is high and serotonin is low), and 2 underactive( adrenaline is low and serotonin high).
These are the examples of cases. And if someone with low serotonin lowers it even more. You can imagine what will happen. And if someone with low adrenaline, increases serotonin, that person will be also in trouble.
YOUR PH regulates all of this. SO first you have to know the PH . Then you have to see how this PH is regulated and how your systems are acting now to balance each other. IN sick people PH is screwed up since one of the systems went down and another system is trying to compensate for this causing side effects.
Lets say , you have low adrenaline== body will try to lower serotonin to compensate= this fixes PH, but causes depression.
I hope you read this Slader carefully and try to understand all of this.
That is why I said , it is not possible to talk about serotonin or cortisol as bad or good. They are bad or good only if they are out of balance.
One more time. you can't breath out CO2 correctly , or you increase carb loading without increasing adrenaline system. YOUR METABOLISM WILL SLOW DOWN.
This is why when you eat sugar and you exercise your are ok, but if you eat sugar and you sit on your ass you get fat, since your metabolism is LOWERED.
When sugar is not available your testosterone will go down, since 17 beta needs sugar and phosphorus. This is why bodybuilders are using pre training with caffeine and other adrenaline agonists to hyperventilate to allow your body to increase the metabolism in the cell. You hyperventilate this will lower CO2 and will force your body to make more CO2 in the cell.
This is why sports people when they quit sports go hypo thyroid. Since they eat the same, but they dont stress and produce less adrenaline. This creates too much CO2 and metabolism is SLOWED DOWN.
One more time. if you have high CO2 in your venous blood, your body will try to lower metabolism to keep the PH balance.
People with COPD will have panic attacks from high CO2. Also your immune system will just crash on high CO2. . http://www.pnas.org/content/106/44/18710.full.pdf It is known by anyone with COPD. And you tell me your bs here.
Hypercapnia: What Is It and How Is It Treated?
Just read the symptoms, do you recognize CFS. This is what it is.
This is why tons of people with CFS are helped by methylation protocol which increases adrenaline.
Slader,I cured myself within 2 months of crashing. And you are still sick. So please don't direct me on how I should think. and why would anyone listen to your opinions ? This actually amazes me. Sick person is talking and directing people on how it is supposed to be , and what the real reason is. This is a joke. You were not smart enough to figure it out. So now sit down and listen.
now the reason. your dht is not sensitive that is why you have high DHT in some cases. Expression of ar2 ( you call it this way, I don't) is a given here. And yes on my protocol it is one of the things I am going for. I stated that many times. there are 3 problems with progestins, progesterone, cortisol and AR.( one more time read depo provera wiki)
SO you need to cure 3, to get fixed. And all this AR 1 AR 2 expression are total nonsense, since expressions are regulated by minerals. Lets say if potassium is high and you take progesterone, your body will downregulate progesterone sensitivity. And you can call it progesterone receptors in the brain LOL( or PR2 expression ) , which is NONSENSE. These are the actual progesterone receptors.
DHT and AR expression and regulation is done by IRON. That is why hairloss happens when you have manganese imbalance , iron antagonist. Sodium also regulates manganese copper and iron.
And your brain is very sensitive to minerals, it upregulates or downregulates receptors based on mineral content in the brain.
I said exactly that, if you inhibit 5 ar , you will upregulate DHT sensitivity( if you call it 5 AR2 then fine who cares how you call it. I work on molecular level . so I will never call it 5 AR2. To me 5 AR2 does not exist. And this is exactly what these protocols are for.
For some reason you repeating everything I say with your wording and claim I am not having the right reasons.
Did you get fixed on progesterone? NO you did not. I got fixed totally . and fixed around 40 people from PFS. They are all cured.
And no -- one protocol did not work for all of them. IT DID NOT
Why dont you just post on some other thread, Slader. If you don't understand what I am saying. I have no desire to explain it to you. You just don't know biochemistry, I can't teach or help you. I have zero desire of doing that.
If you could not grap what I was saying about co2. why would I talk to you on the molecular biochemistry. It is complete nonsense.
If you dont understand that androsterone inhibits 5AR. I cant' help you further more.
taking high doses of progesterone will make you better when you come off of it. I wrote about it. and it has nothing to do with GABA per say. You just don't get what I wrote. If your body is pissing out zinc, you won't have GABA. I hope you understand that. And in case 1. body is losing zinc since progesterone is too sensitive. Zinc magnesium is needed for gaba conversions and also they are needed for progesterone production. IF progesterone is too sensitive , then body will lower zinc. I hope you get it. that is the reason you have low GABA and not how you say it, which is a bro science.
No zinc no GABA. and zinc wont work after finasterid in one of the cases.
And please stop judging me or going over my posts with your opinions which too me are totally worthless, since you know NOTHING.
There is no reason to look anymore, Slader. Just go on the protocol I gave you . If you were smart enough you would have found the cure youself, but you were not. You are still sick with the insensitive d1ck. I understand that PFS people act like pregnant women, but common why do you care about theories here. You are not able to understand it after 40 pages of explanations. You still talk complete nonsense. And don't even understand that I say exactly the same things about AR2 or whatever you call it.
And no---- the solutionswont be by increasing some imaginary 5 ar2 . It does not exist. Solution will be by increasing the number of AR receptors. that is all.
but if you increase the number of AR receptors( number of the receptors is not the actual number of some imaginary receptors LOL, it is the quantity of a certain mineral which will amplify the acting of a certain hormone). Like potassium amplifies the thyroid hormone and it is a receptor of thyroid hormone in the cell. Sodium amplified adrenaline and is the receptor of adrenaline in the cell. If you increase "number" of AR receptors. This wont fix your sugar problems. And it wont fix your thyroid problems, since one more time. you have 3 problems here. NOT ONE.
AR, CORTISOL AND PROGESTERONE. Progestins effect all 3.
Very easy . Zinc lowers magnesium which makes copper biounavailable. This will lower your serum manganese. Since serum manganese goes down your IRON cant come out into the serum. IRON is what makes DHT sensitive.
Calcium magnesium copper zinc manganese supplement will fix you up. Copper alone 25mg will increase sodium too much and that will lower magnesium and basically ceruloplasmin will tank , even if you take 25mg which is insane.
Bottom line, copper when you take it , it tanks potassium and puts pressure on magnesium. When potassium tanks on taking 25mg copper, body will increase sodium extraction and will try to retain potassium by increasing 3 beta hsd, and will retain magnesium. Since you dont have enough magnesium , you taking copper is doing nothing.
This is the biggest mistake of people taking copper. Copper only should be taken with potassium and magnesium and sometimes manganese. Otherwise taking copper will never raise your ceruloplasmin.
This is what happened to you. when you took zinc, your potassium in the cell went up since zinc increases 3 beta hsd.
Then you took a little bit of copper and your drive sex drive went up. But you took so much copper that your potassium tanks from high to low. Now body is retaining zinc and gettting rid of copper LOL
For your body to retain copper you need to support potassium level with potassium and magnesium.
In any case, try supplement
magnesium, calcium, d3, zinc, copper , manganese, boron
It should fix you within a week or so.
Calcium magnesium copper zinc manganese supplement will fix you up. Copper alone 25mg will increase sodium too much and that will lower magnesium and basically ceruloplasmin will tank , even if you take 25mg which is insane.
Bottom line, copper when you take it , it tanks potassium and puts pressure on magnesium. When potassium tanks on taking 25mg copper, body will increase sodium extraction and will try to retain potassium by increasing 3 beta hsd, and will retain magnesium. Since you dont have enough magnesium , you taking copper is doing nothing.
This is the biggest mistake of people taking copper. Copper only should be taken with potassium and magnesium and sometimes manganese. Otherwise taking copper will never raise your ceruloplasmin.
This is what happened to you. when you took zinc, your potassium in the cell went up since zinc increases 3 beta hsd.
Then you took a little bit of copper and your drive sex drive went up. But you took so much copper that your potassium tanks from high to low. Now body is retaining zinc and gettting rid of copper LOL
For your body to retain copper you need to support potassium level with potassium and magnesium.
In any case, try supplement
magnesium, calcium, d3, zinc, copper , manganese, boron
It should fix you within a week or so.
If you crashed from testosterone. then you have 2 possibilities. 1) it is either 17 beta hsd or 3 beta hsd .
I can assume that from taking testosterone, you lead yourself into hypokalemia and that caused you to go into metabolic alkalosis. I think you will feel better after ru in a week.. If not. you need to take care of hypokalemia that you caused from testosterone. Otherwise if you take any kind of androgens it will be making it worse and worse and worse and some day you can just die. Any androgen that you take now, will lower your potassium you should understand that.
testosterone inhibits 3 beta hsd and causes hypokalemia. I think this is your problem. Go to the hospital and just IV ringer solution. And you will be fine in a day LOL. but then just take zinc and magnesium b6. Dont take testosterone.
I think in this body chemistry you can try this.
Or you can try potassium chloride. zinc magnesium b6.
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I can assume that from taking testosterone, you lead yourself into hypokalemia and that caused you to go into metabolic alkalosis. I think you will feel better after ru in a week.. If not. you need to take care of hypokalemia that you caused from testosterone. Otherwise if you take any kind of androgens it will be making it worse and worse and worse and some day you can just die. Any androgen that you take now, will lower your potassium you should understand that.
testosterone inhibits 3 beta hsd and causes hypokalemia. I think this is your problem. Go to the hospital and just IV ringer solution. And you will be fine in a day LOL. but then just take zinc and magnesium b6. Dont take testosterone.
I think in this body chemistry you can try this.
Or you can try potassium chloride. zinc magnesium b6.
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I will think about SSRI. I would assume SSRI would be more involved with adrenaline receptor problems. Since if you take SSRI you increase serotonin, which increases adrenaline and retains sodium. Then when you go off it , you are stuck with resp alkalosis and met alkalosis. Most conditions caused by drugs that we are talking about are caused by types of alkalosis. It is very hard and long for the body to snap out of alkalosis, alkalosis supports itself. It can last for 10 years if not treated. And it can be treated in 2 days, but person not knowing about it can suffer for 10-15 years and it wont get back into the balance on its own. This is why body is so slow getting back from propecia, ssri.
Have you tried magnesium chloride, potassium chloride for it? I mean it would be better to see the tests. it will be obvious what to do. If body retained sodium you will need magnesium and if body lost potassium you will need potassium to revert both alkalosis.
I would assume a multivitamin with methylation helps this condition, Since it will force you to hyperventilate and your body will adjust adrenaline receptors back to normal and will lower sodium. But you will feel pretty bad on the supplements.
then when your receptors are back to normal. you add zinc manganese to lower copper this will lower your MAO A, which mostly breaks down serotonin and this way you won't have depression any more.
So in your case, I would try first to methylate for a month or so. Add potassium to it also. then you go off the methylation supplements and you will feel low serotonin symptoms. And boom at this moment you take zinc plus manganese for a month or 2 , lower copper and your serotonin will be up and you wont need SSRI.
Try something like that.
Have you tried magnesium chloride, potassium chloride for it? I mean it would be better to see the tests. it will be obvious what to do. If body retained sodium you will need magnesium and if body lost potassium you will need potassium to revert both alkalosis.
I would assume a multivitamin with methylation helps this condition, Since it will force you to hyperventilate and your body will adjust adrenaline receptors back to normal and will lower sodium. But you will feel pretty bad on the supplements.
then when your receptors are back to normal. you add zinc manganese to lower copper this will lower your MAO A, which mostly breaks down serotonin and this way you won't have depression any more.
So in your case, I would try first to methylate for a month or so. Add potassium to it also. then you go off the methylation supplements and you will feel low serotonin symptoms. And boom at this moment you take zinc plus manganese for a month or 2 , lower copper and your serotonin will be up and you wont need SSRI.
Try something like that.
Post-SSRI. Yeah, the similarity with PFS is that both cause alkalosis. And in alkalosis your potassium gets disregulated. And then you have similar progesterone problems.
I think to force out of PSSD, you need to methylate. I would assume this will force the body to go into met acidosis and potassium gets back to normal. then you get off and you are fine.
I never tried it. But I would assume it will work. Make sure you use that thorne extra, since it does not have anything bad in it I checked and you can add resveratrol to it.
I think to force out of PSSD, you need to methylate. I would assume this will force the body to go into met acidosis and potassium gets back to normal. then you get off and you are fine.
I never tried it. But I would assume it will work. Make sure you use that thorne extra, since it does not have anything bad in it I checked and you can add resveratrol to it.
You are not far with MS here, since PFS causes copper biounavailability and deficiency. Most people will have low copper and low urine copper. the longer you have PFS the harder to reverse it, since copper deficiency is what responsible for demethylation.
If you take copper with methylfolate together, that is another possibility to get rid of it.
And it is in CNS. regulation is impaired there. Alkalosis does not let people get back into the balance. It takes years to get out of alkalosis. All people I tested had problems with it.
it has nothing to do with genes or any of that. it has to do that your copper is not available for one and alkalosis 2. Body is stuck.
If you take copper with methylfolate together, that is another possibility to get rid of it.
And it is in CNS. regulation is impaired there. Alkalosis does not let people get back into the balance. It takes years to get out of alkalosis. All people I tested had problems with it.
it has nothing to do with genes or any of that. it has to do that your copper is not available for one and alkalosis 2. Body is stuck.
Once you get your progesterone sensitive again. your copper will work on its own. just eat seafood, oysters, shrimp stuff like that.
I mean you had amazing improvement in every department. Feelings, quantity of sperm( the more important) means that FSH is working again which depends on copper. and penis sensitivity. I mean that is in 3 days. this is very good signs. And these happened when you were not on the substance but off of it. Which will stick.
people never have emotions back with PFS. I remember when I was sick, I did not care about anything, almost dead. I cared less about women but had sex with them. when I got back to normal, difference was night and day. most of you already forgot what compassion is and what normal feelings are. You are all logical now. NO FEELINGS. like robots. This is zinc oriented people. Copper is what gives those emotions. Hypoxia caused by alkalosis is terrible.
There is a guy called Freddd. He found that he had low copper and he took like 20mg of it.
Read this. His testosterone went up, his libido went up, his hairloss went up
Copper deficiency....?
But I think his copper is simply biounavailable, since steroids progestins caused sodium retention and alkalosis with increased volume. Not in every case, but I saw it on many tests.
So the fact that you got your feelings back and sperm quantity in 3 days LOL . It is really really fast.
I mean you had amazing improvement in every department. Feelings, quantity of sperm( the more important) means that FSH is working again which depends on copper. and penis sensitivity. I mean that is in 3 days. this is very good signs. And these happened when you were not on the substance but off of it. Which will stick.
people never have emotions back with PFS. I remember when I was sick, I did not care about anything, almost dead. I cared less about women but had sex with them. when I got back to normal, difference was night and day. most of you already forgot what compassion is and what normal feelings are. You are all logical now. NO FEELINGS. like robots. This is zinc oriented people. Copper is what gives those emotions. Hypoxia caused by alkalosis is terrible.
There is a guy called Freddd. He found that he had low copper and he took like 20mg of it.
Read this. His testosterone went up, his libido went up, his hairloss went up
Copper deficiency....?
But I think his copper is simply biounavailable, since steroids progestins caused sodium retention and alkalosis with increased volume. Not in every case, but I saw it on many tests.
So the fact that you got your feelings back and sperm quantity in 3 days LOL . It is really really fast.
Hairloss is the balance between progesterone and DHT. If you oppose estrogen with DHT, the higher your estrogen the higher DHT will go. This causes hairloss. this is why you use zinc plus manganese. What will happen when you use zinc plus manganese . You copper levels will fall. this will cause your estrogen lower, which will also decrease DHT. And if you had progesterone high at this moment you would get PFS. But you are taking manganese with zinc, so manganese won't allow your progesterone to go high since manganese inhibits 3 beta hsd. zinc induces it.
So this should work for hairloss just like finasteride, but without side effects.
Unfortunately there is also protein wasting hairloss. And that is more insulin / cortisol issue. Which Ray peats diet can fix.
For androgenic hairloss, I think Ray Peats diet is bad.
So this should work for hairloss just like finasteride, but without side effects.
Unfortunately there is also protein wasting hairloss. And that is more insulin / cortisol issue. Which Ray peats diet can fix.
For androgenic hairloss, I think Ray Peats diet is bad.
Yeah, I have long hair now. I balanced all my minerals. Also I remember someone said that salt causes hairloss. LOL
this is such bs. the best thing to do is to get granulated salt go in the shower and take that salt and put it in your head. Scrath your head with it every day for a month. Sodium is a solvent , it keeps calcium in solution. this granulated salt will damage your scalp which will grow your hair like crazy. You need to damage your scalp if you lost your hair long time ago. Otherwise nothing will grow it again.
Hairloss mostly caused by high calcium levels in the cell. Manganese lowers calcium from the cell. And makes iron bioavailable. without manganese iron wont work.
this is such bs. the best thing to do is to get granulated salt go in the shower and take that salt and put it in your head. Scrath your head with it every day for a month. Sodium is a solvent , it keeps calcium in solution. this granulated salt will damage your scalp which will grow your hair like crazy. You need to damage your scalp if you lost your hair long time ago. Otherwise nothing will grow it again.
Hairloss mostly caused by high calcium levels in the cell. Manganese lowers calcium from the cell. And makes iron bioavailable. without manganese iron wont work.
because you are low on zinc. Any diet with carbs puts pressure on zinc. And you took testosterone and killed your zinc.
Zinc converts CO2 into bicarbonate to transport in venous blood. This is why androgenic alopecia always involves zinc deficiency. Copper puts calcium inside of the cell, since copper is part of cytochrome with the production of CO2 , carbohydrate metabolism. Manganese lowers calcium in the cell and increase iron bioavailability. No iron bioavailability no hair. and grey hair. Zinc manganese will stop hairloss and will reverse grey hair. grey beards.
Zinc converts CO2 into bicarbonate to transport in venous blood. This is why androgenic alopecia always involves zinc deficiency. Copper puts calcium inside of the cell, since copper is part of cytochrome with the production of CO2 , carbohydrate metabolism. Manganese lowers calcium in the cell and increase iron bioavailability. No iron bioavailability no hair. and grey hair. Zinc manganese will stop hairloss and will reverse grey hair. grey beards.