getting a flu shot(vaccine), what are the risks with our condition?

[diffi]

I think can definitely have metals in it. AND I don't trust it. I saw zero docs 40-70% of my entire adulthood. SO I don't trust flu shots. BUT I don't think they kill everyone. But I also don't believe all of what Difi says or thinks is true. Nor really anyone. I'd not get it. BUT I'd highly doubt it will worsen PFS unless crashing or something. COnsidering all that's happened in my life, I wouldn't get it. BUT, I wouldn't say no one should ever get it either. OR if people did, I wouldn't just assume it ruins them. Trust me fast 40 days or so, and if you are suicidal this year -it's fin not a flu shot.

MY dad did recently get sick after a flu shot, some reaction. BUT later had a uti and had history of some prostate use of avodart/ finasteride. didn't fucking destroy his life.

Why don't you read the lable of a vaxx? Then you will know more.
Vaxx don't kill immediately though there are cases in India. 50000 deaths of women and children by vaxx. Gates foundation was forced to get out.
I suggest to read a lot and to analyze both sides. I did. And docs don't let their children get vaxxed.

 

[MNK99]

i do and haven't used in years and won't waste time explaining things to you.
I can read like 1400 wpm, so not sure what you're talking about.

I'm not hopeless. YOU think seroquel, PFS, PSSD, MANIA, extortion, DRUGs, guns, attacks, robbery, car accidents, Lamictal, etc. can't kill me but a flu shot can?
maybe school system , taxation, family... but not a flu shot.

None of you fucking losers can fuck with me. GOOD LUCK Original Poster. Ignore these retards. i'd kick the shit out them at fucking 16 17 19 21 every year till I die.

 

[diffi]

I DO you fucking idiot. You think I give a fuck??? Im nearly 30. last vaxx was like 19
Im trying to make money not be a fucking idiot wasting time with fuckos

You mean that the stuff like ALU, anagalase or Mercury is not anymore in your brain and fat tissue cause 11 years ago? My gosh, don't know what you read.
I guess your issues even came from vaxx.

 

[diffi]

i do and haven't used in years and won't waste time explaining things to you.
I can read like 1400 wpm, so not sure what you're talking about.

I'm not hopeless. YOU think seroquel, PFS, PSSD, MANIA, extortion, DRUGs, guns, attacks, robbery, car accidents, Lamictal, etc. can't kill me but a flu shot can?
maybe school system , taxation, family... but not a flu shot.

Dude, you don't read my comments properly. Instead of insulting you should understand what I wrote and not guess what you think I wrote.

 

[diffi]

--Dude, I don't care.

Impressive. Your symptoms are in regards of others mild. I am not on solvepfs.
If you have now a mental attack or whatever, then just show some respect, dude. If not, I will come around in Canada.

 

[diffi]

KK you changed my life today. Thanks. When in doubt, don't use something. But don't tell the Original poster and everyone else they're screwed because of some vaxxine.

Most people don't workout 9000 x from 16-25 either. I'm pretty healthy. Maybe more healthy with no vaccine at 12 or whatever year, but I won't dwell on it and drive myself suicidal. You know why? Because that's useless.

ALL my issues are from VAXX. Outside of fools, I literally look like I have zero issues. Outside of arguing. ... BUT you know better than neuroscientists, all doctors (not every single one that ever existed is bad), and all health science. I don't even like some of those professionals or many of them, but I know better than to blame all issues on others. Instead, just take action. Vicecaz didn't want an insane debate. You know better than my life experience too, and if people don't agree with you, they are ignorant to the omnipotent and all destroying Vaccine.

We were taking about vaxx and how it can influences the body, brain, mental disorders. I know what I am taking about. Still have Mercury overload.

 

[MNK99]

I don't. I fasted like 2months straight nearly. With water and juice. I was suicidal and if you could read as well as you seem to believe/ you'd see it in previous logs of mine.

 

[diffi]

Sure come anywhere dude. NY NJ Toronto BC Calgary Edmonton, INdia Pakistan Asia anywhere. London, europe. i dont care.

mental attack? shut the fuck up.

I have your address.

 

[diffi]

I don't. I fasted like 2months straight nearly. With water and juice. I was suicidal and if you could read as well as you seem to believe/ you'd see it in previous logs of mine.

I know your symptoms. I had all of them and many more. Thx

 

[MNK99]

--Noprop, stop drinking and go back to school.

BY the way, one thing you say I agree with and I'd practice the same thing. I usually don't think in terms of kids, because I don't have them. BUT definitely would not vaccinate as a kid, and doctors at certain times do not give their kids vaccines and also many other medical treatments.

-Also I do think methylation issues can and probably do occur to many like they do with basically every drug (potentially).
--BUT I know myself. Whatever drugs I take or will, will not be hormonal, antidepressants, mood drugs. --- only performance enhancers and sparingly... like the dreaded coffee (not on TEI though).

-If that's some sort of veiled threat, come and find me.

 

[ruprmurdoch]

no one tested flu vac - even on animals !

PS. and all PFS users- take prescription for SSRI's instead of reading some advices from non professionals.

 

[raven]

I don't. I fasted like 2months straight nearly. With water and juice. I was suicidal and if you could read as well as you seem to believe/ you'd see it in previous logs of mine.

completely unrelated to the rest of this thread but you feel like the main improvements were due to the fast?

 

[MNK99]

Main as in majority? I think a lot of it... Lets say 40% or more. It probably helped 60% of symptoms, eventually, sometimes I feel like it helps 100%. But a lot of that was fitness, proper diet, and other things like R-andro to turn back on mood regulating and sex related neurosteroids. But still a bit of a ways. Not a ton to go. But can still take time, as TEI balancing will take a long time unfortunately. --Plus other health and life concerns...... and I'm a sad Vaxxine boy like Diffi/Noprop have pointed out.

I feel like water fasting, allowed a lot of things to heal. And basically I gave up on life before that. Not quite the same, but similar to a certain person's behavior on Discord.
Which is why I've been helping them in my own dickish way.

Fasting definitely changed things majorly. So 3months later, I could live and function. I could 1 month later but still have some trouble on own. It got easier each month.
Sometimes stagnated, but I was literally gaining weight, not being able to move, and felt terrible all day everyday. Mental faculties were quite reduced. And I didn't walk or even stand up, was hiding in bed. My crash was quite bad. That's after moving. Still was doing very badly. So that's why I believe in it so much.

Got back to working out at least 3 times a week (one week) then 4, then more.... like 3 weeks later into vegan refeed (vegan for a time).

- a million times better.

 

[hairsuit]

Hahahaha. Flu shot. Because you don’t want to get the flu. Aside from all the guys on here telling you, “nah, it’s all a lie, you’ll be just fine” I don’t know anyone that didn’t, at minimal, get the flu a week after getting the shot. It’s comical. I have another friend that developed Bells Palsy after the shot. I could go on. I shake my head that ANYONE on this forum believes that there is not legitimate correlation of severe sides with a lot of vaccines, or that the companies that have developed them have your health and best interest at heart. Gimme a break.

 

[talkingant]

When I get the flu it tends to fuck me up bad for 2 weeks. So I get the flu shot almost every year. I know lots of people who get it, along with dozens of other vaccines in their lifetime (measles, polio, etc), and have never heard of anyone getting negative side effects. That's not to say it doesn't happen, but it comes down to risk vs benefit.

Getting a vaccine so you dont get sick is only half the reason. The other half is so you dont become a carrier and infect others. If you will be around old or immuno-compromised people then you should seriously consider that.

It is true we are all here because of drug side effects that are not scientifically well known. So there is always that risk with any drug. But given that vaccines are vastly more common than fin, SSRI, and accutane combined, and the statistics show very little adverse reactions, I'd say the risk is very low.

People will go on about conspiracy theories, etc. Just keep in mind there is a lot of bullshit and fearmongering out there. People often fall into the post hoc propter hoc fallacy, which is to say people mistakenly believe that because something happened after a vaccine, they necessarily blame the vaccine. If you have a billion people taking vaccines every year, you're bound to have many cases where people happened to contract some medical problem after the vaccine, but that problem would have happened anyway.

If you are going to read into anti-vax materials, spend an equal amount of time reading epidemiological studies and meta-analysis of studies, which look at data from hundreds of medical trials.

 

[diffi]

When I get the flu it tends to fuck me up bad for 2 weeks. So I get the flu shot almost every year. I know lots of people who get it, along with dozens of other vaccines in their lifetime (measles, polio, etc), and have never heard of anyone getting negative side effects. That's not to say it doesn't happen, but it comes down to risk vs benefit.

Getting a vaccine so you dont get sick is only half the reason. The other half is so you dont become a carrier and infect others. If you will be around old or immuno-compromised people then you should seriously consider that.

It is true we are all here because of drug side effects that are not scientifically well known. So there is always that risk with any drug. But given that vaccines are vastly more common than fin, SSRI, and accutane combined, and the statistics show very little adverse reactions, I'd say the risk is very low.

People will go on about conspiracy theories, etc. Just keep in mind there is a lot of bullshit and fearmongering out there. People often fall into the post hoc propter hoc fallacy, which is to say people mistakenly believe that because something happened after a vaccine, they necessarily blame the vaccine. If you have a billion people taking vaccines every year, you're bound to have many cases where people happened to contract some medical problem after the vaccine, but that problem would have happened anyway.

If you are going to read into anti-vax materials, spend an equal amount of time reading epidemiological studies and meta-analysis of studies, which look at data from hundreds of medical trials.

Dude, autism in children does not occur anyway. 50000 dead ppl after vaxx in India does not occur anyway.
Your own immune system is only able to fight diseases. You are sick every year from flu? What is that? And you get shots every year?
Get the shots, perfect. At least inform yourself what sides they can have. You can find them in the lable.
If you can find a study which shows that vaxx or flu shots are effective (double blind study), I agree with you. Unless there is no one...

 

[BC2018]

Getting the flu is a great thing for pfs it can trigger a recovery. But it's very hard to catch it when you have pfs unless you really fatigue your immune system. Sure a flu shot will make you feel sick but not the right kind of sick to feel the autoimmune side of pfs lifting. In my experience only the naive get vaccinated, it's a mistake. It's depressing that this spineless guy from japan is going to break his body to please some stupid family members.

 

[MNK99]

I don't think VC is spineless nor stupid. Also probably not even Japanese. I'll be civil. Sorry for being mean Diffi, but I've been sick after Fin and no it wasn't minor. I was starving self in bed months in 2017. Cfs on steroids plus 35 ish horrible issues . If I got some nice progress this yr, well m of the yr felt like prison . Last year I was completely broken. Lets say equal time. Even better in June still worked my ass off. I don't get shots as an adult but I'm sure I chelated more than most. Not ev1 automatically accepts eternal ruination.-,edit. He may in fact be Japanese . @vicecaz, white lies never hurt anyone.

 

[BC2018]

Getting a vaccine so you dont get sick is only half the reason. The other half is so you dont become a carrier and infect others. If you will be around old or immuno-compromised people then you should seriously consider that.

It is true we are all here because of drug side effects that are not scientifically well known. So there is always that risk with any drug. But given that vaccines are vastly more common than fin, SSRI, and accutane combined, and the statistics show very little adverse reactions, I'd say the risk is very low.

People will go on about conspiracy theories, etc. Just keep in mind there is a lot of bullshit and fearmongering out there. People often fall into the post hoc propter hoc fallacy, which is to say people mistakenly believe that because something happened after a vaccine, they necessarily blame the vaccine. If you have a billion people taking vaccines every year, you're bound to have many cases where people happened to contract some medical problem after the vaccine, but that problem would have happened anyway.

That's the public relations script for naive people.

The companies even admit their vaccines kill people so they came up with a ridiculous explanation that those who died shouldn't have gotten a vaccine because they were too weak, those should rely on healthy people being vaccinated to not catch anything, so if you don't get vaccinated at least every year to enrich these companies weakening your own body you're guilty of killing weak people by allowing the flu to spread to those too weak to have had a vaccine. How about no! There is a much simpler explanation. Vaccines don't work, you are creating a lot of problems for your body most importantly your brain by injecting that poison and you're giving the manufacturers a lot of money which they'll use to buy more studies which support their placebo toxins.

 

[talkingant]

If vaccines dont work then how do you explain the near total eradication of polio following mass polio vaccination in the 80s?

Years that i get the flu shot, i dont get the flu.

See the list at the bottom of this article for some double blind placebo controlled trials.

Where are the Double Blind Placebo Controlled Randomized Trials about Vaccines