getting a flu shot(vaccine), what are the risks with our condition?

[diffi]

If vaccines dont work then how do you explain the near total eradication of polio following mass polio vaccination in the 80s?

Years that i get the flu shot, i dont get the flu.

If you can show that vaxx are the cause of polio eradication (double blind study!), I believe you re polio vaxx.
Flu shot and flu: there might be a correlation, but no causal effects. You don't know if your immune system had handled that flu anyway.

 

[talkingant]

If you can show that vaxx are the cause of polio eradication (double blind study!), I believe you re polio vaxx.

Here is the original 1954 blinded placebo controlled polio study which included over 600000 children.

I. PLAN OF STUDY

 

[vicecaz]

don’t know why this particular thread turned out to be so uncivilized compared to the others but here we are.

Some of you clearly read me wrong, or didn’t read at all.
I never, even once in this thread, talked positively about vaxx nor did I say that I was considering a vaxx because afraid to catch a cold.



@Ocguy I’m not looking for a cure to cold, and I agree with the potential metal contamination post-vaxx . Read below

Hahahaha. Flu shot. Because you don’t want to get the flu. Aside from all the guys on here telling you, “nah, it’s all a lie, you’ll be just fine” I don’t know anyone that didn’t, at minimal, get the flu a week after getting the shot. It’s comical. I have another friend that developed Bells Palsy after the shot. I could go on. I shake my head that ANYONE on this forum believes that there is not legitimate correlation of severe sides with a lot of vaccines, or that the companies that have developed them have your health and best interest at heart. Gimme a break.

Where does that come from? spare us your sarcasm and go read the first post

Getting the flu is a great thing for pfs it can trigger a recovery. But it's very hard to catch it when you have pfs unless you really fatigue your immune system. Sure a flu shot will make you feel sick but not the right kind of sick to feel the autoimmune side of pfs lifting. In my experience only the naive get vaccinated, it's a mistake. It's depressing that this spineless guy from japan is going to break his body to please some stupid family members.

Watch your mouth, judging someone from a single post is a mistake too
Can't wait to get my life back not to have random dudes talking shit for free. Be careful not to use those last 3 words irl as you could get your spine broken

That said Today I decided not to get the vaxx as I realized the risks, as little as they are, aren’t worth it in our conditions especially during recovery. As far as I'm concerned the case is closed. Feel free to debate but no one's probably gonna ever change his mind in this thread . Let's just keep in mind nothing's white or black . Vaxx probably fall into the grey area. Some chose to see one color more than the other. I agree with @talkingant and @MNK99 overall.

 

[Reverse]

My view: Main risk is that you wont get the flu.
Stop reading stuff on the internet about vaccines, half of them wear tin foil hats

This is the type of post I found online repeatedly before taking fin...wish I'd found something of a balanced view instead

 

[diffi]

Here's what didn't cause PFS.
Insomnia 5-10 days. * what 99 times??? (that's like 2.5 yrs by the way you crybabies, so actually add 5 yrs to that)
Meth -twice
cocaine -200-400x
opiates - once
more alcohol than basically nearly everyone you've ever seen. 1500 times straight something ridiculous, like 3L vodka a week.
Adderall dexedrine ritalin
being fit despite most of that.
AND flu shots, inhalers. etc.

people like Diffi and the rest are retards

They need to work out, fast, etc

OPTIMAL and HEALTHY and FIT are different.
Fit great.
Healthy and fit better.
Healthy fit and optimal (also not on drugs, even better ideal for many)

I'll stand up and clap for you if you explain to me what Autism is, accurately. You fucking trolls.

AND PFS wasn't minor. Most of you would end it. Try that and bipolar and former pssd. you'd cry ten months - ten years.

.What is your problem?
Why don't YOU know what autism is? Ever seen a conference with Dr. Joachim Mutter or Klinghardt?

 

[diffi]

Here is the original 1954 blinded placebo controlled polio study which included over 600000 children.

I. PLAN OF STUDY

I can't see any results of a double blinded study. I cannot see a single line where it is said vaxx causes! reduction of polio cases.
Can you show me evidence that vaxx inhibit diseases? It is not possible cause they cannot show on a molecular level how vaxx inhibit a disease.
You could research online what is in vaxx, you won't trust your eyes.
BTW polio was erased by better standards in hygiene, and then the disease came down, vaxx came in. A doc in Switzerland showed this in a known TV discussion.
Short: pharma tells us things which we cannot really trust. See finasteride, AD, vaxx like gardasil, etc.
Ppl don't die immediately from vaxx.
If you believe what you believe, congrats.
We both believed pharma and science, didn't we?

 

[Chapman]

I'm not anti vaccine especially for deadly diseases like tuberculosis, polio etc, however the flu jab is pointless especially for someone your age. It's designed for the elderly or people with compromised immune systems, the chances of you getting genuine flu are low and if you did you should fight it off no problem. I was offered it at work and declined I would advise you do the same. Rarely does the vaccine match the dominant strain anyway as there are loads of different types. My 2 cents.

Edit I've just seen your most recent reply and fair enough.

 

[diffi]

I'm not anti vaccine especially for deadly diseases like tuberculosis, polio etc, however the flu jab isn't pointless especially for someone your age. It's designed for the elderly or people with compromised immune systems, the chances of you getting genuine flu are low and if you did you should fight it off no problem. I was offered it at work and declined I would advise you do the same. Rarely does the vaccine match the dominant strain anyway as there are loads of different types. My 2 cents.

Edit I've just seen your most recent reply and fair enough.

How does a vaxx prevent elder ppl from getting a flu? How does a vaxx with ALU, Mercury...built your immune system up?
Antibodies? Aha, and how are they integrated into the complicated immune system?

 

[hairsuit]

don’t know why this particular thread turned out to be so uncivilized compared to the others but here we are.

Some of you clearly read me wrong, or didn’t read at all.
I never, even once in this thread, talked positively about vaxx nor did I say that I was considering a vaxx because afraid to catch a cold.



@Ocguy I’m not looking for a cure to cold, and I agree with the potential metal contamination post-vaxx . Read below




Where does that come from? spare us your sarcasm and go read the first post





Watch your mouth, judging someone from a single post is a mistake too
Can't wait to get my life back not to have random dudes talking shit for free. Be careful not to use those last 3 words irl as you could get your spine broken

That said Today I decided not to get the vaxx as I realized the risks, as little as they are, aren’t worth it in our conditions especially during recovery. As far as I'm concerned the case is closed. Feel free to debate but no one's probably gonna ever change its mind in this thread . Let's just keep in mind nothing's white or black . Vaxx probably fall into the grey area. Some chose to see one color more than the other. I agree with @talkingant and @MNK99 overall.

hey buddy..... there was no sarcasm. It was a general post on a general forum, where generally people discuss the topic at hand...... which YOU introduced. The only person getting their back up is you. Now, my post was nothing more than a general rebuttal to everyone on here in favor of the flu shot. That you took it personally, never my intent. I have seen many many friends and their children get vaccine injured, and have yet count the benefits of that vaccine worth the suffering they are enduring. I look at it like the “chicken pox” vaccine...... flu sucks, chicken pox sucks... yes, but we can suck it up and get through it. It’s better than the devil we don’t know.

 

[Chapman]

hey buddy..... there was no sarcasm. It was a general post on a general forum, where generally people discuss the topic at hand...... which YOU introduced. The only person getting their back up is you. Now, my post was nothing more than a general rebuttal to everyone on here in favor of the flu shot. That you took it personally, never my intent. I have seen many many friends and their children get vaccine injured, and have yet count the benefits of that vaccine worth the suffering they are enduring. I look at it like the “chicken pox” vaccine...... flu sucks, chicken pox sucks... yes, but we can suck it up and get through it. It’s better than the devil we don’t know.

Agreed for infections like those it's unnecessary, what doesn't kill ya... makes you stronger!!

 

[Reverse]

I'm appalled at what I've read here about vaccines. Most of us here are recovering from issues that were hidden and lied about by the same industry and companies who produce the so-called safe vaccines.

Vaccines will be a heavy point of discussion after I recover and find a suitable wife. My current position is NO vaccines for my child, unless there's a reform in vaccine standards and manufacturing. Vaccines in their current form only work as intended in theory but not in reality. I won't put anything in my child or myself that I can't undue myself.

Essentially you have a medical establishment selling a miraculous cure to end all disease...sounds like the pipe dream of ending hairloss and acne. Let's not forget the other "miracles of science" with a dark shadow cast over it.

The very vaccine inserts state "not tested for carcinogenic or mutagenic effects".

I also made a decision not to trust people who are immune from criminal prosecution. You can't expect much from a person or industry who faces no consequences.

A wise man once said "never trust a liar".

 

[Reverse]

New born baby of a close friend experienced fever after a vaccine and is now having digestive issues like diarrhea, gas and stomach noises....

Fever after vaccine hasn't been addressed by docs.

One doc said breast milk was causing the digestive issues and the baby should drink formula. Doc even said baby has colitis.

I told her ask another doc for opinion...

Doc #2 said just cut out dairy from mother and continue breast feeding. Baby doesn't have colitis.

Friend is asking my opinion of how to proceed. I don't think she's up to date on vaccine controversy but I advised her to see the second doc which gave a different diagnosis so....

Thoughts???

 

[hairsuit]

first daughter had the same exact thing. This is before my wife did (literally) hundreds of hours of research on vaccines. Our Doctor outright told us that it was from the vaccine and it just had to run its course. Fortunately it passed, and set us on our journey for information......

 

[diffi]

New born baby of a close friend experienced fever after a vaccine and is now having digestive issues like diarrhea, gas and stomach noises....

Fever after vaccine hasn't been addressed by docs.

One doc said breast milk was causing the digestive issues and the baby should drink formula. Doc even said baby has colitis.

I told her ask another doc for opinion...

Doc #2 said just cut out dairy from mother and continue breast feeding. Baby doesn't have colitis.

Friend is asking my opinion of how to proceed. I don't think she's up to date on vaccine controversy but I advised her to see the second doc which gave a different diagnosis so....

Thoughts???

Those symptoms are due to vaxx. Docs usually don't say anything re vaxx sides.

 

[Aflac94]

I got a flu shot in October and now have full on flu. I had been planning to start TEI this week, but probably too much for my body to handle. I’ll wait

 

[hairsuit]

I got a flu shot in October and now have full on flu. I had been planning to start TEI this week, but probably too much for my body to handle. I’ll wait

Sorry bud. That sucks. Sadly, that is exactly what I was talking about. Most folks I lnow
That get the shot, end up with the very thing they got the shot to prevent.

 

[Ocguy]

Sorry bud. That sucks. Sadly, that is exactly what I was talking about. Most folks I lnow
That get the shot, end up with the very thing they got the shot to prevent.

The only way people understand the dangers of this is if they experience complications themselves.. otherwise we're all just conspiracy theory whackjobs..

 

[lakehouse]

i do and haven't used in years and won't waste time explaining things to you.
I can read like 1400 wpm, so not sure what you're talking about.

I'm not hopeless. YOU think seroquel, PFS, PSSD, MANIA, extortion, DRUGs, guns, attacks, robbery, car accidents, Lamictal, etc. can't kill me but a flu shot can?
maybe school system , taxation, family... but not a flu shot.

None of you fucking losers can fuck with me. GOOD LUCK Original Poster. Ignore these retards. i'd kick the shit out them at fucking 16 17 19 21 every year till I die.

Lmaoooo GOAT

 

[bruschi11]

first daughter had the same exact thing. This is before my wife did (literally) hundreds of hours of research on vaccines. Our Doctor outright told us that it was from the vaccine and it just had to run its course. Fortunately it passed, and set us on our journey for information......

I wish all couples could have something you two do there man. If they did, we’d make this place an extremely healthy world.

I’d certainly fear the future with someone who does not generally adapt to hackstasis, biohacking way of thinking. I’m just glad this didn’t all happen to me when I was married, had kids etc.

 

[ruprmurdoch]

New born baby of a close friend experienced fever after a vaccine and is now having digestive issues like diarrhea, gas and stomach noises....

Fever after vaccine hasn't been addressed by docs.

One doc said breast milk was causing the digestive issues and the baby should drink formula. Doc even said baby has colitis.

I told her ask another doc for opinion...

Doc #2 said just cut out dairy from mother and continue breast feeding. Baby doesn't have colitis.

Friend is asking my opinion of how to proceed. I don't think she's up to date on vaccine controversy but I advised her to see the second doc which gave a different diagnosis so....

Thoughts???

try :
1.sulfur and magnesium, simpliest way is thiamine aka vit B1. And vit b1 is working good with magnesium. Plus of course Vit c.


2.second way is Lime/Tilia tree flowers or leafs. It lowers inflamation.

You can always add lime tree/tilia to option nr 1

3.If this doesnt help parents should go to osteopath or chiropractician (PFS, PAS you should also visit those guys if you dont have progress with you recovery). those profesionals are real doctors today.

remember casues are diffrent (Finasteride,Accutane,Vaccine) but effect is always the same in 90% of people - inflamation (rised insulin,low glucose, high acth,high histamine, high cortisol)
so the same is road to heal.