Guardian - The Making of An Opioid Epidemic

Trump_1776

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It's all part of a huge plan to make men docile to prompt a One-Government take over of the globe.
 

raven

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It's all part of a huge plan to make men docile to prompt a One-Government take over of the globe.

It's the opposite of that, it's the consequence of having for profit private companies run industries that should be run in the public interest, but we can't nationalise them because there is not enough international cooperation amongst developed nations and if only one nation went that route itd get fucked over by the others.
 

Trump_1776

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It's the opposite of that, it's the consequence of having for profit private companies run industries that should be run in the public interest, but we can't nationalise them because there is not enough international cooperation amongst developed nations and if only one nation went that route itd get fucked over by the others.
On one hand I agree, however there are numerous reasons why nationalizing certain industries is a terrible idea, beginning with a brief mental exercise of trying to find one instance in modern history where a government had efficiently solved a problem. :)
 

raven

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On one hand I agree, however there are numerous reasons why nationalizing certain industries is a terrible idea, beginning with a brief mental exercise of trying to find one instance in modern history where a government had efficiently solved a problem. :)

We had a PM, Attlee (who beat Churchill in the post war election) who nationalised healthcare, dental, rail, electricity, water, gas and our coal mines all very successfully. Unfortunately most were sold off for short term profits by Conservatives in the decades following. Now part of our rail is owned by foreign governments instead.

I agree that some industries should never be nationalised
 

MNK99

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Saying same thing in Canada.
Just war on drugs masquerading as helping people.
 

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I work with these medications daily, they're extremely valuable for someone dying of cancer e.g. it's the overprescription that's the problem. You don't need to nationalize anything to control this, just put some new or different laws into practice. Why don't they? Is there really so much money in selling synthetic opioids?
 

raven

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I work with these medications daily, they're extremely valuable for someone dying of cancer e.g. it's the overprescription that's the problem. You don't need to nationalize anything to control this, just put some new or different laws into practice. Why don't they? Is there really so much money in selling synthetic opioids?

There is a ton of money in prescribing opioids in the US, not as much in Europe. There is less incentive to overprescribe when medication is purchased in bulk by a nationalised healthcare system rather than by consumers in a private healthcare system but even with nationalised healthcare we still get conned in so many other ways by pharmaceutical companies, paying more for branded drugs when there are low cost generic drugs available for much cheaper, getting misled by pharma funded research etc. We can regulate all these things one by one and fix individual problems but we will always be one step behind, there will always be another medication to overprescribe and cause damage, it's about removing the incentive to do that.
 

MNK99

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all a scam to "protect innocent people" from "chinese fentanyl overlords".
dude if they were for profit, incentivized to actually care and do a good job (to an extent*** -not 900, 000 dollars for children's cancer drugs).
i mean docs and not so much pharma.
2 tier> all.