Hair-test results (Toxic Slow 1?)

[Nighteyes]

Hi everyone

Just thought I would share my hairtest results from TraceElements and at the same time describe myself a little bit. Perhaps it might help someone to reflect over their own condition or inspire someone to share advice on how I should go about correcting some of my ratios. I am a 27 year old male.

As the results show I am a "Slow 1" and have quite a low Na/Mg ratio indicating "Adrenal Insufficiency". My Zn/Cu is also way off and I am in the "Copper Toxicity" box.

I generally have very little energy and often get cold hands. Coffee feels great at first but makes me crash. Will be starting Thorne Extra nutrients for the zinc and cut back on carbs and copper rich foods. Debating with myself if I should keep oats in my diet as I love them, but they are quite high in copper. Also contemplating making a log if I get the energy for it - studying is taxing me at the moment..

Also.. I am not really understanding the toxic ratios chart in my results. Apparently I am toxic in everything? But the actual heavy metal readings seem low enough?

 

[Nighteyes]

 

[Canari]

You have no help from TE for interpreting and telling you what to take?
About copper, I have put quite a lot in the forum, about food I think... and how to reduce it, such as flushing liver, as copper goes out with the bile. I am almost sure to have some toxicity but I still wait for my TE results, and they are supposed to come with what to take for balance.

 

[Aleksandr]

[mention]Nighteyes[/mention] Hey man!

Your toxic ratios are all good - high is 'acceptable'.

You have classic slow 1, higher calcium / mg and lower sodium / potassium / phosphorous.
I think gbolduevs basic slow oxidizer ideas will be good for you: Zinc 30mg + Manganese 10mg + fasting + exercise. Also cut down on the carbs when you're not active. Fat is the most slowly oxidised energy too. dunno how much of that you have in your diet?

Unless you have any other problems like PFS or something? Doesn't look like it from your test though.

 

[Nighteyes]

Thank you both for taking the time to reply

[mention]Canari[/mention] No, I did not realize there were two different tests to order (one with and one without comments and suggestions (d'oh). But I have been reading the ARL site for help with interpreting. Yes, I will be reading your posts about copper and try some of the things

[mention]m_arch[/mention] Thank you for claring that up about the toxic ratios! Got worried for a second there. My "tin" level seems high though. Dont know what that's about.

I have many of the same symptoms as the PFS guys describe (very long refractory period and lowish libido) but have never taken Finasteride or any progestins. My hair is also really dull and skin has never been great (urticaria, unable to sweat and bumpy skin on arms). Maybe just optimizing my ratios will help my symptoms.
I Used to party/drink a lot in my early 20's and my health really plummeted after getting a vaccine (Twinrex for hepatitis B+C) in 2014. Since then sleep is often bad and very high ammonia levels. Been using cinnamon for that. Gut is also quite affected with bad dysbiosis. Used to always be constipated, but I just bought a juicer and breuss type juice seems to help. Maybe it is the low potassium.

I have always craved butter and cream big time but tried to follow a high carb/low fat approach this summer (I have been following the Ray Peat Forum). I think that was a mistake.

I will try exercising more (already do gymnastics and some running).

Once again, thank you for sharing your thoughts.

 

[Nighteyes]

Oh and by the way I am very skinny and have a hard time putting on muscle mass. Any weight I put on usually sits on my lower belly.. Will try some shorter fasts I think, but I should probably watch my fat percentage.

 

[Canari]

[mention]Nighteyes[/mention] follow your cravings! I also made the mistake to try high sugar... Muscle mass problem, gbol said reset cortisol receptors with fasting. Do short ones if skinny maybe? I am hardly refeeding now and my energy is higher already!

Find out what was in the vaccine to detox it.

 

[Nighteyes]

Alright so I have been working on tweaking some of my ratios - in particular raising sodium and potassium. I noticed [mention]TubZy[/mention] mentioned having good results from coconut water so I tried that today. Almost instantly had heart palpitations (after ~400 mL). I have been increasing sodium as well but maybe not enough? Any Idea TubZy why coconut water would provoke this reaction and have you experienced this?

Have been implementing breuss juices along with my regular foods as fasting is currently not really an option. Maybe intermittently (only eat once per day type thing).

 

[mattyb]

Alright so I have been working on tweaking some of my ratios - in particular raising sodium and potassium. I noticed @TubZy mentioned having good results from coconut water so I tried that today. Almost instantly had heart palpitations (after ~400 mL). I have been increasing sodium as well but maybe not enough? Any Idea TubZy why coconut water would provoke this reaction and have you experienced this?

Have been implementing breuss juices along with my regular foods as fasting is currently not really an option. Maybe intermittently (only eat once per day type thing).

Taking in a lot of potassium quickly can cause palpitations, it screws with the electrical regulation of the heart. That's why most rehydration salts are lower in potassium (like sub 200mg) and have on the packaging to consume the fluids very slowly. You can still drink coconut water, just sip on it slowly throughout the day. Some people are more sensitive to this than others. Likely means you need more sodium. Typically you want a 2:1 ratio of Na:K for rehydration, while coconut water's ratio is 1:2, so you still need additional sodium.

 

[TubZy]

Alright so I have been working on tweaking some of my ratios - in particular raising sodium and potassium. I noticed @TubZy mentioned having good results from coconut water so I tried that today. Almost instantly had heart palpitations (after ~400 mL). I have been increasing sodium as well but maybe not enough? Any Idea TubZy why coconut water would provoke this reaction and have you experienced this?

Have been implementing breuss juices along with my regular foods as fasting is currently not really an option. Maybe intermittently (only eat once per day type thing).

Yeah, matty pretty much answered it, but trying adding some salt to the coconut water too it would help balance it better or just sip it slowly through the day. Adding in additional magnesium would help too.

Just out of curiosity, have you tried licorice root? Only reason is it essentially would raise sodium and would be curious to see how you feel just as an experiment. Or potentially coconut water plus licorice root.

 

[TubZy]

Alright so I have been working on tweaking some of my ratios - in particular raising sodium and potassium. I noticed @TubZy mentioned having good results from coconut water so I tried that today. Almost instantly had heart palpitations (after ~400 mL). I have been increasing sodium as well but maybe not enough? Any Idea TubZy why coconut water would provoke this reaction and have you experienced this?

Have been implementing breuss juices along with my regular foods as fasting is currently not really an option. Maybe intermittently (only eat once per day type thing).

Taking in a lot of potassium quickly can cause palpitations, it screws with the electrical regulation of the heart. That's why most rehydration salts are lower in potassium (like sub 200mg) and have on the packaging to consume the fluids very slowly. You can still drink coconut water, just sip on it slowly throughout the day. Some people are more sensitive to this than others. Likely means you need more sodium. Typically you want a 2:1 ratio of Na:K for rehydration, while coconut water's ratio is 1:2, so you still need additional sodium.

Also Matty, in your experience do you know how long it could take to balance potassium levels again if they were low?

 

[Canari]

Oh and by the way I am very skinny and have a hard time putting on muscle mass. Any weight I put on usually sits on my lower belly.. Will try some shorter fasts I think, but I should probably watch my fat percentage.

An idea that seems to do me good: I eat beef steak tartare, raw and with an egg! And a lot of juice and apple vinegar and salt. I seem to make more profit of my meat and have good digestion! Maybe the problem with muscle mass, that I have as well, comes from a difficulty to digest and get good amino acids... apart from cortisol issues.
I also eat a lot of eggs, and I warm the white in tomato sauce so that it becomes white.
By using tomato, vinegar and also bitter greens like dandelion, I seem to have a better digestion overall.

 

[Nighteyes]

Alright so I have been working on tweaking some of my ratios - in particular raising sodium and potassium. I noticed @TubZy mentioned having good results from coconut water so I tried that today. Almost instantly had heart palpitations (after ~400 mL). I have been increasing sodium as well but maybe not enough? Any Idea TubZy why coconut water would provoke this reaction and have you experienced this?

Have been implementing breuss juices along with my regular foods as fasting is currently not really an option. Maybe intermittently (only eat once per day type thing).

Yeah, matty pretty much answered it, but trying adding some salt to the coconut water too it would help balance it better or just sip it slowly through the day. Adding in additional magnesium would help too.

Just out of curiosity, have you tried licorice root? Only reason is it essentially would raise sodium and would be curious to see how you feel just as an experiment. Or potentially coconut water plus licorice root.

Thanks for the answers. Makes sense that I need to raise sodium more Haven't tried licorice root yet but I have been following the discussions around it on this forum. I just worry about the potassium-tanking effects from it but as you say, taking it with coconut water might mitigate this. Will consider trying this and report back if I do. I plan on retesting minerals next summer so will be attemting strategies to rebuild both sodium and potassium levels until then. Raising sodium and potassium should help make my calcium more bioavailable, right? (ARL website sates that high hair calcium indicates that calcium is biounavailable and even suggests calcium supplement). Not sure I dare take calcium and risk calcifying soft tissue more than they probably already are from my previous high milk consumption (peat days).

 

[Nighteyes]

Oh and by the way I am very skinny and have a hard time putting on muscle mass. Any weight I put on usually sits on my lower belly.. Will try some shorter fasts I think, but I should probably watch my fat percentage.

An idea that seems to do me good: I eat beef steak tartare, raw and with an egg! And a lot of juice and apple vinegar and salt. I seem to make more profit of my meat and have good digestion! Maybe the problem with muscle mass, that I have as well, comes from a difficulty to digest and get good amino acids... apart from cortisol issues.
I also eat a lot of eggs, and I warm the white in tomato sauce so that it becomes white.
By using tomato, vinegar and also bitter greens like dandelion, I seem to have a better digestion overall.

Thanks for the tip! I am a little nervous about eating raw meat, though would have to source some really fresh meat before trying this. I have been doing the Matty-inspired green salad every day as well and it seems to work for digestion which has always been a major problem for me. I use pea shoots and mixed greens with pomegranate vinegar and EVOO. I have noticed good effects from tomato sauce as well! I just figured it was because if provided me with lots of potassium.

edit: by the way, when you write "juice", do you mean apple juice?

 

[Slayo]

I think you may have mercury toxicity (besides copper) your minerals seems quite deranged (but not able to see well on this test, a doctor's data hair test would have been much better to read), try a trial of chelators to see if you have any reaction, look at the Andy Cutler protocoll

 

[Canari]

Thanks for the tip! I am a little nervous about eating raw meat, though would have to source some really fresh meat before trying this. I have been doing the Matty-inspired green salad every day as well and it seems to work for digestion which has always been a major problem for me. I use pea shoots and mixed greens with pomegranate vinegar and EVOO. I have noticed good effects from tomato sauce as well! I just figured it was because if provided me with lots of potassium.

edit: by the way, when you write "juice", do you mean apple juice?

No, I juice veggies, plus more veggies in a raw mix, thinly mixed with apple vinegar. I add a grated apple, papaya, sometimes strawberries.... I have made a topic with my new diet, I am very happy, and btw, i have just received my results and I am a slow 1, so we might beneficiate from the same sort of diet!

I buy organic minced beef, and I put it in Orange juice.... That is so good! lol I make a fruit salad with tartare in it! :lol:
But I really see I HAVE to maintain a low fruit diet, and up raw veggies. I digest them perfectly as long as it is all raw.

 

[Nighteyes]

I think you may have mercury toxicity (besides copper) your minerals seems quite deranged (but not able to see well on this test, a doctor's data hair test would have been much better to read), try a trial of chelators to see if you have any reaction, look at the Andy Cutler protocoll

That would explain my neurological symptoms that got quite severe the last few years. Believe me, they were intense. After the vaccine back in 2014 my sleep was ruined along with many weird nerve type issues. Would wake up during the night, seeing ghosts and not knowing where I was. I would also get shivering in my chest and arms. This has gotten much better though these last few months. At one point I was sure I has MS (which lead to taking large doses of pregnenolone and low fat diet).

I have read a bit about DMPS and DMSA that Cutler advocates and it seems they can make things much worse and are not quite safe. Will read a bit more about chelation; I know Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt has some articles and opinions on chelation.

Maybe I also really need to make the time to do the long fast that Gbolduev reccommends. I remember him stating that he "chelated like crazy" on a breuss type fast. I just think I need to watch my electrolytes during a fast - especially sodium.

 

[Slayo]

I suggested you to look at the Andy Cutler protocoll just to try some chelators to see if they increase your syntoms as this will confirm tocicity.
There are several ways to chelate, quicksilverscientific is good too.
I have heavy metals toxicity too.
Vaccines have heavy metals, this reinforce the fact that you are poisoned.
Metals and minerals are antagonistic, so you won't have optimal minerals metabolism unless you chelate all the metals, i suggest you to do chelation at the same time as a minerals rebalancing protocoll.
Fasting helps as well, but it needs to be very long

 

[Canari]

@Nighteyes Hey man!

Your toxic ratios are all good - high is 'acceptable'.

Yes, those ratio HAVE to be high, as the minerals before the slash / are the good ones!

 

[Nighteyes]

I suggested you to look at the Andy Cutler protocoll just to try some chelators to see if they increase your syntoms as this will confirm tocicity.
There are several ways to chelate, quicksilverscientific is good too.
I have heavy metals toxicity too.
Vaccines have heavy metals, this reinforce the fact that you are poisoned.
Metals and minerals are antagonistic, so you won't have optimal minerals metabolism unless you chelate all the metals, i suggest you to do chelation at the same time as a minerals rebalancing protocoll.
Fasting helps as well, but it needs to be very long

Thank, that makes sense to use them to confirm toxicity. What products/chelators do you use for getting better? And what approaches diet and lifestyle-wise have you had success with. Any advice is very welcome, thanks!

btw do you know this form of zeolite: https://www.resultsrna.com/acz-extra-strength/ ?