Hairsuit's PFS journey----

Helen

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The thing with TEI that I am realizing is that improvement in the hair tests, does not necessarily equate to improvement in symptoms or how healthy I feel. You would think as more balance was achieved, feelings of wellbeing would follow. That was the case in the beginning of mineral balancing, but doesn’t seem to be the case anymore.

no, it does not work like that at all. sometimes your ratios can get worse and you get better. it has nothing to do with ratios

sometimes people have to go to 4 lows to rebuild.
 

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no, it does not work like that at all. sometimes your ratios can get worse and you get better. it has nothing to do with ratios

sometimes people have to go to 4 lows to rebuild.
Yeah. Clearly my concept of it is off.
 

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Yeah. Clearly my concept of it is off.


ratios can fluctuate like crazy, since you are chelating minerals out into blood.

So if copper starts going , your hair gets all fucked, if lead starts going, hair can get fucked,

if some other mineral comes out.

it is like chelation

you only get fairly balanced, if blood is clean.

when I understood that, I started to chelate . since i had lead problems.

I understood that NB will take too long for me

but I'll tell you it was hell.

losing all your hair, while chelating , hair falls out like during chemo therapy, and the more toxic you are in blood, the slower it grows.


After my last crash from finasteride, my hair took a huge hit, and lead was insane in blood

It still not growing as fast as needed. since glutathione is way down, after finasteride


So nutritional balancing is basically really mellow chelation protocol
 

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ratios can fluctuate like crazy, since you are chelating minerals out into blood.

So if copper starts going , your hair gets all fucked, if lead starts going, hair can get fucked,

if some other mineral comes out.

it is like chelation

you only get fairly balanced, if blood is clean.

when I understood that, I started to chelate . since i had lead problems.

I understood that NB will take too long for me

but I'll tell you it was hell.

losing all your hair, while chelating , hair falls out like during chemo therapy, and the more toxic you are in blood, the slower it grows.


After my last crash from finasteride, my hair took a huge hit, and lead was insane in blood

It still not growing as fast as needed. since glutathione is way down, after finasteride


So nutritional balancing is basically really mellow chelation protocol
So did you just take a much faster, extreme route?
 

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I'm also shedding more now since 1 week or so. Sometimes insane amounts of hair lol. Did not really see much shedding for a while. But now all of a sudden in overdrive. I do feel better in all other aspects.
 

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Started another cycle of TEI. Potassium has come way down. Little more balanced. Something crossed my mind. When we come to the end of a cycle and retest, but are still taking supplements, does that throw off the results of our test? Or are we supposed to wait a few weeks, with no supps in our body, so that we are not artificially flooding ourselves?
 

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Started another cycle of TEI. Potassium has come way down. Little more balanced. Something crossed my mind. When we come to the end of a cycle and retest, but are still taking supplements, does that throw off the results of our test? Or are we supposed to wait a few weeks, with no supps in our body, so that we are not artificially flooding ourselves?
No
 

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Holy smokes. Been several months since I was on supplements. Forgot how bad starting these cycles makes you feel. Depression, detached foggy feeling, completely asexual. Was feeling pretty good the last couple months doing the low dose fin. Hopefully another couple cycles will bring me to higher baseline.
 

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Holy smokes. Been several months since I was on supplements. Forgot how bad starting these cycles makes you feel. Depression, detached foggy feeling, completely asexual. Was feeling pretty good the last couple months doing the low dose fin. Hopefully another couple cycles will bring me to higher baseline.

you are doing TEI with being on fin? Fin changed your hairtest
 

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I do a nibble of off of a .25mg piece of fin every 10 days. Hair rest really hasn’t changed. Potassium has come down slightly, which is to be expected after last run of supplements etc. recommended supps are the same as before. If it has greatly thrown off my levels, it hasn’t shown on the hair test. @Helen
 

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So, A month in on another cycle of TEI. I know this is doing good in the long run, but it’s frustrating because I had taken a break for a bit, and had gotten off of supps. I did a fast, and was micro dosing Fin, and was actually feeling half way decent (compared to where I am now. Literally for the last month, since I started not one day of libido. Not one. It’s crazy how much it can suppress you. I’ll stick with this for another month and see what happens. Eyes on the prize, not on how I’m feeling right now......
 

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I do a nibble of off of a .25mg piece of fin every 10 days. Hair rest really hasn’t changed. Potassium has come down slightly, which is to be expected after last run of supplements etc. recommended supps are the same as before. If it has greatly thrown off my levels, it hasn’t shown on the hair test. "

Not to dwell on the past (I'm way stronger now but was pretty legit before this shyt too), that's how I should have done it. I immediately realized when later I got sick and even docs I know took fin randomly or every 10-14d and duta like every 42 days or some crazy number. I hope it works out well man, I know you're doing it to aid recovery obviously.

It happened so fast, I literally did try microdosing lamotrigine and trileptal etc, while that was happening (scared of titrating those). But yeah, definitely tho I got way way sicker after quitting fin 4months into it (max), it definitely screwed judgement and self awareness, productivity and efficiency far quicker. (before weight loss, weight gain, testicular pain, vision loss, shrinkage, suicidality, etc).

Not to sound ominous, obviously you've dealt with this for a time, and have weighed out things, in deciding upon this.

I mean for hairloss: I should have tried say 20 pills over 200 days or 4 proscar over however many days... rather than 1.25 or 1mg a day (which I did, by biting off a 5mg tab). That was risky. Again, not implying any danger because what do I know, I just remember this. Good luck man.
 
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Not to dwell on the past (I'm way stronger now but was pretty legit before this shyt too), that's how I should have done it. I immediately realized when later I got sick and even docs I know took fin randomly or every 10-14d and duta like every 42 days or some crazy number. I hope it works out well man, I know you're doing it to aid recovery obviously.

It happened so fast, I literally did try microdosing lamotrigine and trileptal etc, while that was happening (scared of titrating those). But yeah, definitely tho I got way way sicker after quitting fin 4months into it (max), it definitely screwed judgement and self awareness, productivity and efficiency far quicker. (before weight loss, weight gain, testicular pain, vision loss, shrinkage, suicidality, etc).

Not to sound ominous, obviously you've dealt with this for a time, and have weighed out things, in deciding upon this.

I mean for hairloss: I should have tried say 20 pills over 200 days or 4 proscar over however many days... rather than 1.25 or 1mg a day (which I did, by biting off a 5mg tab). That was risky. Again, not implying any danger because what do I know, I just remember this. Good luck man.
You’re exactly right brother. Honestly, we shouldn’t have quit cold turkey. I think our bodies would have adapted. And then we could have titrated down. In any event, here we are, and fighting back to get better. And we will! I had a doctor I was taking to about this last week. Told him I was on Fin. He says, “please tell me you didn’t quit cold turkey.....”. Seems like the word is out. We just have to figure this out.
 

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Hey y’all. Does anyone else still feel sick every time they take the TEI supps? What is it In them that causes it? Copper you think?
 

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Hey y’all. Does anyone else still feel sick every time they take the TEI supps? What is it In them that causes it? Copper you think?

Its the body chemistry you’re putting yourself into. There’s some sort of chelation or herxheimer reaction that occurs for most when you run these esspecially when body is going through drastic changes.