Help me. Post finasteride sindrome and all sintomns

[Pedro melo]

TOLD THIS TO SLAYO A FEW WKS AGO. He's v tall and was v thin.
Mass Gainer.

-this after broth, veggie fasting... or some other detox. I know you're light. BUT maybe vegan and some protein to add weight then fast?
-Others may have better ideas. My advice is probably best for guys that are 5'8-6'4 150-250lb. BUT, there's good advice I sent you in PM and also in the other msging man.

-These are American and this may be useless... but maybe check bodybuilding forums/ sites in your area? Ask some gym guys?
-I'm sure some of these are good and some are terrible and I'd check the ingredients.......

-Calculate TDEE. And how much you should weigh. Maybe @mattyb can help.
-Also, yeah I was and am bigger, but in the last 5-6 yrs you can see my ribcage even at 200lb. I had a lot of muscle and not that much fat, minus issues from fin.
-BRO I lost 100lb when I was younger. CRASHED with surgery, and was dying inside anyways. WITH THE RITE DIET, things are possible.
--> that's like fasting 2yrs in a sense, 16-18. A MASSIVE CALORIE DEFICIT from my norm.

-I know there's english/spanish/portuguese barriers... maybe talk to @aztec as his Spanish is 900x better than mine.
-For different body types: They have different metabolisms and total daily energy expenditures.

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Só wyou are suggesting that i gain Wight and then fast? Im on a keto diet now all thosnsuolemment so can have it yeah, or similar but why go veggie if I want to gain weight? I should ear meat and eggs a lot of protein and fat as well

 

[MNK99]

-BRO, im just trying to make sure you aren't in that state uneccessarrily long.
-IDEALLY, best thing I can see. Is this "RIGHT" for everyone? I do not know. --> Impossible to say, dependent on size and general health. I didn't "get it at first".
-Eggs a bit. BUT if you can't digest anything, have kidney, liver, urological pain, that's going to be tough. I am sure others did this part better than I did. -Raw diet --> Egg soup?
-I just suffered and later detoxed when it was too late. --> by fasting. I am not suggesting this AT ALL, and it was destructive.

 

[Pedro melo]

IDEALLY, best thing I can see. Is this "RIGHT" for everyone? I do not know.
Eggs a bit. BUT if you can't digest anything, have kidney, liver, urological pain, that's going to be tough. I am sure others did this part better than I did.
I just suffered and later detoxed when it was too late. --> by fasting. Not suggesting this AT ALL.

Problem is to gain weight I'll need to eat too much things and work out. Energy zero and digestion 0 so it's almost impossible to gain weight. Fuck this pfs affected all the elements of my life

 

[Pedro melo]

Agree with you my friend... Im leaving in constant fear... I dont know too muh about this thing, maybe our friend here doesnt know either. I get confused all the tine because its soo much information and protocols... I'm being honest( sorry this is not my log) I can't cum for almost three weeks I'm fucking desperate here and I don't even know where to start... I'm waiting for my hair to grow and do the test, bit still after that? All this protocols have elements that I don't know if I can get that in my country. Im so fucking desperate I even consider getting back on fin... I see some guys like you or mnk like heroes I truly do

 

[MNK99]

-THat's why I'm saying Juice feast or water fast or raw foods diet. NO gains overnight. I worked like a dog for any gain. I'm making it sound easy, but surely it was not.
-Wait man. Maybe @Walker has some input. @Helen. I did not do the "crash" part right. Only waited, got worse, then fasted.
-This member is on the lighter side and cannot quite water fast. So maybe you guys know what he should do, thanks a lot.
-Can he add some pro to raw diet to maintain and gain weight? (6mo to a year?) Or... should he do the "Simple detox protocol"? I kind of don't know what to say, here.
-And @Area-1255, @aztec. @IHateFin --> you guys know how to explain things better than me, in dire times.
-Sorry for annoying you guys all the time, this is for someone else tho, that needs help, whenever u are free.

 

[Walker]

Yeah, I would definitely fast. Whether that's a long juice feast to ease your body into it, a Breuss fast, or a two week water fast, I would do SOMETHING related to this. I understand your plight, believe me I do, but the tone of your posts is total defeat. You're going to have to man up, stone up, and fight this thing with everything you have. A lot of suggestions and things recommended on this forum for you to try, but that's the key......at some point you have to try something. We get it, we've been there, you're worried.....but I'm telling you, the quicker you take action, the quicker you'll be better. You're wasting precious time. I firmly believe that that faster you begin attacking this thing, the faster you get better. If you let this thing wreak total havoc on you, it becomes a much longer (but still attainable) road back.

 

[MNK99]

Yes, I meant pick one, any kind of fast. I'd be better 140d instead of 200+140days or whatever, if I just could convince myself to do one of my long fasts and stick to it sooner.
Walker's absolutely right, and damn strong. Committment is needed. ACTUALLY I'd be livable and believing in recovery 30days in... I had 40 symps here +50+ in other issues.

It's true. Everything I say you try and say it won't work.. BUT it's gotta man. Look at my status update, a long time ago... 50+ days fasting. Water fast saved my life.

MENTAL STRENGTH IS SUPER IMPORTANT. And water fasting restored mine. And I'm certain some kind of fasting restored a lot of guys, and not only for PFS.

 

[Pedro melo]

Yeah, I would definitely fast. Whether that's a long juice feast to ease your body into it, a Breuss fast, or a two week water fast, I would do SOMETHING related to this. I understand your plight, believe me I do, but the tone of your posts is total defeat. You're going to have to man up, stone up, and fight this thing with everything you have. A lot of suggestions and things recommended on this forum for you to try, but that's the key......at some point you have to try something. We get it, we've been there, you're worried.....but I'm telling you, the quicker you take action, the quicker you'll be better. You're wasting precious time. I firmly believe that that faster you begin attacking this thing, the faster you get better. If you let this thing wreak total havoc on you, it becomes a much longer (but still attainable) road back.

OK brother thank you so much for you opening my eyes... Probably it will break me but it will be worth it. I'm considering or juice fast or breuss fast since water fast its really hard. Can you guys be specificity and tell in what this helped you guys?mnk told me about depression and anxiety. Anything else? Can I add magnesium, or zinc and potassium while I'm fasting?
For how long can I be in juice fast minimum( because I've never did it)
Thank you all!

 

[MNK99]

DUDE, My opening post mentions like 4 disorders and syndromes (1 gone, 1nearly gone, 1 treated, 1... so so),
way way more than anx and depression. I was awake 95% of the last 8 days.... with zero drugs, and mostly cured PFS. So I'm still pretty messed up in ways.
Serious symptoms... suicidal 247. Say 35 symptoms of PFS alone. Like 18 gone or nearly gone after fasting and refeeding. 10 more worked on.

The fact I could fast that long -- means the other issues, are not gonna get me in the end either. But, it takes a LOT. And so... you can fast 7-14d.

 

[Pedro melo]

OK bro I not doubting you. I know you have a strong commitment!

 

[MNK99]

BUT, you must too. Hence, fasting will make you MENTALLY so much more like who you know you can be, deep deep down.

-Breaking Fasts [Refeeding]:
PEDRO YOU ASKED ME: AND I TOLD YOU BEFORE:
BUT LATER REFEED:
GET TO THE END FIRST. Then someone or I can say:
Eat x-- then y---then z for a certain duration. I.e. Cook vegatables in a slow cooker. Eat only the soup. The next day: Eat some of the soft vegetables.
I told NILES this recently, but he is in a different health state. FOR ME, long fast meant equally if not 1.5-2x as long refeed (for some), acc. to MattyB who I trust in this matter.

-"Tubzy was less strict with shorter fast (10 days) than what I was recommended for long fast (31 d) .
-For a long fast: 10-40 days:
****Or veggie broth even safer. Broil veggies 24-48 hrs only have the soup***** --> slowly (7d to 14d getting back to ideal diet). -Or 3-6days.
If you want to be really really careful. ideally have a juicer and or a "slow-cooker"/"crockpot" on hand (you know what I'm saying, those large pots)."

 

[Area-1255]

Member

Hello guys, I'm new in the forum and I'm looking for all the help I can...​

I stop using finasteride for almost one month. I took it in January of 2016 , stopped in September, came back to finasteride on march of 2017 but taking the pill 3 times a week... And how regretted I am.​

I stopped because my boobs start to come up, and after that all kinds of ***t are happening: libido is gone, I just want to piss, everything that I eat gives me nausea and my intestine hurts ( I think I've got allergic to gluten and milk) , I can't see straight of my left eye, and feel pain all over my body.... Sounds very tragic but its true my friends.​

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My hormonal exams are OK ( testosterone higher then the average, and dht normal) which makes me wonder if my brain is not damaged. Although my blood sugar is 101( limite is 100) and my cholesterol is 140 ( limit is 200). My prolactin is a little bit higher 16 ( limit is 20) and the estrogen I did it one month ago was 115( range was 175)​

Tomorrow I will do a magnetic resonance to my brain to see if I have any brain damage.​

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About supplements I'm taking maca, tribulus, vit D3, 5htp, Korean ginseng and omega 3. Also mucuna pruriens to try to drop prolactin levels, and taurine.my urologist prescribed me tamoxifen to see if my boobs reduce a little. Also gave me cialis ( a kind of Viagra) to revitalize my erections. For my boobs, I'm taking tamoxifen.​

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Do you have any idea what can I do now? I heard about dhea, progesterone etc. I wanted to know your opinion and more ideas of what can I do... I feel like I am fading away, my energy is out, I'm loosing weight and I can't workout anymore.​

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I'm from Portugal so I apologize for any English mistakes.​

I'm going through the worst nightmare of my life, please help me here folks I'm bagging. Thank you so much​

First, 5-HTP will just raise Prolactin more...why take it? I'd drop it. Second, many herbs are anti-androgenic, like Fina, but to slighter degrees.
Korean Ginseng is iffy - it may help...but I'd recommend (for blood flow!) American Ginseng, Ginger and Garlic. With the strongest emphasis on Garlic and American Ginseng.
Tribulus is basically a N.O/Nitric Oxide booster, with Minor/Mild effects on increasing DHT. If you are sensitive, it works. Otherwise, Tribulus can be very *minimally* useful.

...In your case, it seems more likely that you'd want to go for a strong DHT Gel - as has been discussed by @Me and @Stud. Titan DHT Gel is the one everyone is using nowadays...you will have to Confirm he will Ship to Portugal; and I recommend the 50% Solution - applied to boobs/chest DAILY; two times in a day.

Lastly, Tamoxifen should be continued...but consider Raloxifene (which has MORE anti-estrogen effects).
Raloxifene may work quicker on Gynecomastia!

~Area1255: www.area1255.blogspot.com

 

[MNK99]

ALL that can be done post refeed, but you must fast Even if i weigh more you can see my ribcage, which means I was lean or way too lean at times... I don't know what it means, but it's not like I lost 400lb during fast. I've been skinnier without that 21 nite, 20 day, 5+6 before it.. i.e. 11 +21 or 32 nites and 31 days, so 31.5days water, 3 meals, total like 1200 cals after 32 days.

 

[Pedro melo]

First, 5-HTP will just raise Prolactin more...why take it? I'd drop it. Second, many herbs are anti-androgenic, like Fina, but to slighter degrees.
Korean Ginseng is iffy - it may help...but I'd recommend (for blood flow!) American Ginseng, Ginger and Garlic. With the strongest emphasis on Garlic and American Ginseng.
Tribulus is basically a N.O/Nitric Oxide booster, with Minor/Mild effects on increasing DHT. If you are sensitive, it works. Otherwise, Tribulus can be very *minimally* useful.

...In your case, it seems more likely that you'd want to go for a strong DHT Gel - as has been discussed by @Me and @Stud. Titan DHT Gel is the one everyone is using nowadays...you will have to Confirm he will Ship to Portugal; and I recommend the 50% Solution - applied to boobs/chest DAILY; two times in a day.

Lastly, Tamoxifen should be continued...but consider Raloxifene (which has MORE anti-estrogen effects).
Raloxifene may work quicker on Gynecomastia!

~Area1255: www.area1255.blogspot.com

Thanks area. What's your opinion on fasting? I'm going to do it but I don't know if I can take this supplements or others while I'm fasting.

 

[MNK99]

Don't take jack while fasting, maybe black tea or decaf tea. @Orion ? I actually did take coffee at times, but I am no role model man. Decaf makes me sick.
Some took tea. Lets just say zero calorie fasts or 20cals in 20 days or whatever black espresso has once every few days = way better than Breuss/Juice/etc., in my experience.

 

[Pedro melo]

Ill

First, 5-HTP will just raise Prolactin more...why take it? I'd drop it. Second, many herbs are anti-androgenic, like Fina, but to slighter degrees.
Korean Ginseng is iffy - it may help...but I'd recommend (for blood flow!) American Ginseng, Ginger and Garlic. With the strongest emphasis on Garlic and American Ginseng.
Tribulus is basically a N.O/Nitric Oxide booster, with Minor/Mild effects on increasing DHT. If you are sensitive, it works. Otherwise, Tribulus can be very *minimally* useful.

...In your case, it seems more likely that you'd want to go for a strong DHT Gel - as has been discussed by @Me and @Stud. Titan DHT Gel is the one everyone is using nowadays...you will have to Confirm he will Ship to Portugal; and I recommend the 50% Solution - applied to boobs/chest DAILY; two times in a day.

Lastly, Tamoxifen should be continued...but consider Raloxifene (which has MORE anti-estrogen effects).
Raloxifene may work quicker on Gynecomastia!

~Area1255: www.area1255.blogspot.com

Try that dht gel. But not sure if they ship to Portugal... Can I aolly it in my penis also? Should I use some liver protectors medicine?

 

[Area-1255]

Thanks area. What's your opinion on fasting? I'm going to do it but I don't know if I can take this supplements or others while I'm fasting.

Nope. I mean fasting is means you have no Carb/Protein/Sugar intake...you can drink Water.
I would avoid Caffeinated beverages; even Coffee has calories and Amino Acids!
Tea affects neurotransmitters; which affects fasting = no fast at all!
Fasting is meant to Create new Stem Cells, immune cell maximization and MASSIVE HGH (Human Growth Hormone) Release!!!
Those are the main reasons it rejuvenates the entire Body and hypothalamus!

 

[MNK99]

True, indeed. The hypothalumus will then be able to function much much better, restoring a lot of the neurosteroids (down the line) that regulate mood, and function.
Basically. And endocrine function. Everything. In lamens terms.

 

[Area-1255]

Ill

Try that dht gel. But not sure if they ship to Portugal... Can I aolly it in my penis also? Should I use some liver protectors medicine?

Yes. It can be applied to the Penis to enlarge or enhance Arousal. It is very powerful. I still have 8 different canisters of it here I haven't tapped into the third yet!

 

[Area-1255]

True, indeed. The hypothalumus will then be able to function much much better, restoring a lot of the neurosteroids (down the line) that regulate mood, and function.
Basically. And endocrine function. Everything. In lamens terms.

Yup!