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IHateFin

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Did you suffer from penile shrinkage (in erection) and soft glans too?
If yes did it get better by time?

I have lost so many inches in length and girth (in erect size)it's incredible and still depressing. Always have a hourglass form too.

i never really got penile shrinkage, but i did have a more shriveled and hard n lifeless flaccid penis. i guess when it was errect it wasnt as girthy, but the length was always there and if it wasnt i didnt notice.. either way, yes it all got better! so once you find something that increases your 5AR or andorgen sensitivity you will be seeing improvement in that department.
 

noprop

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i never really got penile shrinkage, but i did have a more shriveled and hard n lifeless flaccid penis. i guess when it was errect it wasnt as girthy, but the length was always there and if it wasnt i didnt notice.. either way, yes it all got better! so once you find something that increases your 5AR or andorgen sensitivity you will be seeing improvement in that department.
Exactely, increasing androgen sensitivity. Blood flow seems very important anyway.
 

hopeforrecovery

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Exactely, increasing androgen sensitivity. Blood flow seems very important anyway.

Okay im still on sells and if it won't help I go on RU.

Btw my penile tissue hd changed. If I use a vacuum pump and pump blood in my penis to the limit I got a big lump at the base on my penis(maybe scar tissue) and I can see a real bad hourglass. Can den you photos if you're interested (no homo).
 

hopeforrecovery

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UPDATE:
+ Secon day on Ella 7.5mg.Still no real improvements. But I definitely look more healthier in face. Very natural, no dark eye bags and also my fluffy face seems to be better. But no big changes. Sexuality and Libido is still bad af. Will give you my next update tomorrow.
 

IHateFin

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UPDATE:
+ Secon day on Ella 7.5mg.Still no real improvements. But I definitely look more healthier in face. Very natural, no dark eye bags and also my fluffy face seems to be better. But no big changes. Sexuality and Libido is still bad af. Will give you my next update tomorrow.

This is a good sign bro! Remember the magic is in the SnapBack. I think these are good signs
 

MNK99

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-Definitely @IHateFin, @hopeforrecovery.
Perhaps, not everyone's experience. But I felt NOTHING - basically helped... and later, small results snowballed into major ones.
-After fasting.
-EVEN 5-6-10 days didn't help that much ( a bit, but 0 or negative % to 3-10% isn't very inspiring).
-It'll get better.
-I don't think I "felt" ru, etc first several times took it. Felt ella like maybe 1hr or 20mins. I kind of felt it - but not like it felt like it's curing. Glad I tried it tho.
-Definitely felt worsened memory (losing all kinds of things, anyways... is a part of my life and this worsened after them for a bit). I have memory problems, probably not that bad for most people, I'm certain.
-After ella, randro, etc, pct... etc... I was feeling like 60-70%... more now, but lingering issues definitely piss me off/ make me anxious at times.
-But, need to take it easy/ take time. I think I can do the rest at a normal job or school... whereas before... I gave up on all that bullshit.
-Anyways, most things are subtle and they cascade into larger effects. I think I can do TEI while being busy. I wanted to heal MOST before moving somewhere, pretty much there, but not enough, but livable for most ppl. Need to work on other things tho, and I'd like everything done yesterday, ... but it's just not like that (most of life isn't).
-ARL concerns me, if major detox will make me super sick or cause severe depression (suicidal ideation, etc).... let alone worsen memory, focus, mood, etc... so may do TEI.
-Microdosed some ru today.
-I may buy more of each (ru and ella) either now, or after some more work is done (outside pfs).
 

noprop

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Okay im still on sells and if it won't help I go on RU.

Btw my penile tissue hd changed. If I use a vacuum pump and pump blood in my penis to the limit I got a big lump at the base on my penis(maybe scar tissue) and I can see a real bad hourglass. Can den you photos if you're interested (no homo).
You can do so, noproblemo.
 
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hopeforrecovery

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You can do so, noproblemo.

UPDATE:

After 3 days on ella. Absolutely no improvements in sexuality. Maybe Things has Become worse. My Morning Wood is about 40%. Even with cialis.
But the good Point: My face Looks great. Yesterday a Female friend of me told me that i have a Nice Jawline! Before ella you couldnt Even see this! It Looks definitely more skinny and healthier!
 

hopeforrecovery

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UPDATE:

Day 4 and My last day on ella. Short Version:
+Giod Facial improvements: no fluffy face, good Jawline, no eyebags,i just look healthy and not tired at all.
+absolutely ZERO improvements in sexuality.Maybe Things have become worse But i dont really know.

Im excited to see How Things will Honig the Next days After that ella Cycle and if my facial improvements are permanent!
 

hopeforrecovery

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UPDATE:
+First day after i stopped Ella. Things are at my PFS/PSSD Baseline again.
+My face looks unhealthy again: I have a very fluffy face with dark eyebags. This shit scares me. But on ella it was gone. So i would say thats not an absolute fail.

I just dont really know what to do know.
1. Should i try ella again? Maybe for longer time? Maybe take a dose every second or third day? I fucking want that these facial changes on ella become permanent.
2. Or should i go on with my RU486 cycle?

Maybe someone with experience could tell me something...
@TubZy @IHateFin
 

Helen

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You should go on testosterone with progesterone and chelate copper out of your brain.
 

MNK99

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THE FACT that you see these positive facial changes is an excellent sign.
Whatever you do space out ru and ella just in case. And for *snapback* like everyone says.
 

noprop

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You should go on testosterone with progesterone and chelate copper out of your brain.
Why should he go on this protocol? Very interesting. What dosage would you consider and when to take? Any experience? THX for your infos.
 

TubZy

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UPDATE:
+First day after i stopped Ella. Things are at my PFS/PSSD Baseline again.
+My face looks unhealthy again: I have a very fluffy face with dark eyebags. This shit scares me. But on ella it was gone. So i would say thats not an absolute fail.

I just dont really know what to do know.
1. Should i try ella again? Maybe for longer time? Maybe take a dose every second or third day? I fucking want that these facial changes on ella become permanent.
2. Or should i go on with my RU486 cycle?

Maybe someone with experience could tell me something...
@TubZy @IHateFin

It also seems like your issues are a lot more related to progesterone too since ella totally got rid of it and Ella focuses more on progesterone with very little cortisol blocking (if any) compared to RU. how is your libido off Ella? It could be smart to wait a week or two before hopping on something else to see if you get a snap back.

I would maybe look into something else like electrolytes, ARL/TEI, or test/prog, vitex/pine pollen etc. or some more experimental anavar or turinabol only cycle
 

IHateFin

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UPDATE:
+First day after i stopped Ella. Things are at my PFS/PSSD Baseline again.
+My face looks unhealthy again: I have a very fluffy face with dark eyebags. This shit scares me. But on ella it was gone. So i would say thats not an absolute fail.

I just dont really know what to do know.
1. Should i try ella again? Maybe for longer time? Maybe take a dose every second or third day? I fucking want that these facial changes on ella become permanent.
2. Or should i go on with my RU486 cycle?

Maybe someone with experience could tell me something...
@TubZy @IHateFin

Wait it out man. Ella has a 30 hour half life so even tho you didn't take it today it's still in your system...
 

hopeforrecovery

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It also seems like your issues are a lot more related to progesterone too since ella totally got rid of it and Ella focuses more on progesterone with very little cortisol blocking (if any) compared to RU. how is your libido off Ella? It could be smart to wait a week or two before hopping on something else to see if you get a snap back.

I would maybe look into something else like electrolytes, ARL/TEI, or test/prog, vitex/pine pollen etc. or some more experimental anavar or turinabol only cycle

My Libido is non existent lol