How does PFS cause Premature Ejaculation

hairsuit

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Y’all, this is doing my head in. Never had an issue with this pre PFS. After my crash, now I have a hair trigger. Like uncontrollable. Nothing I do helps. I noticed it was a slow decline in the months post crash to where I finally ended up with PE. Was intermittent at first, now it’s a constant state. Anyone have any ideas as to what part of this hell causes that? Appreciate ya!
 

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I'm in the exact same boat and PE is one of the last symptoms that I still suffer from and I have also noticed it getting worse even though my other symptoms are getting better. I am able to get hard easily once again even though my libido isn't always the greatest, but I'm never really able to perform because of the PE. I always figured it was from the lack of allopregnenolone (GABA) caused by Fin since in the beginning the symptom would get much better if I were to take a benzo before having sex. Now though, not even a benzo seems to help me that much. Other than that, it could be caused b the high SHBG that most of the PFS sufferers suffer from as well.

Any other ideas on what could be causing it and how we could combat it? If I can fix this problem I could probably live the rest of my life with PFS or what's left of it without even thinking about it much.
 

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WEED definitely since like last March, helped PE a ton. Like minutes, 5-10mins to over an hour. BUT* I recently did TEI one round and will do subsequent rounds... And I have other reasons to avoid weed. While it is pretty helpful for mood, sex drive, libido, and sleep (only if it's the right strain) , it's also bad for mood, focus, and some other stuff.

I'm either extraordinarily disciplined or kind of a mess, so I try not to use any shyt at all. BUT* I am pretty sure other people, some can just use it pre sex or pre whatever their reason is (like a life enhancer), and they'd be fine. I could use now, and did during some tense times. I'll probably keep some at my place but it would be rare usage. Not really my drug of choice. DId work way better than cialis etc, but again it affects way way more than just sex.
 

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I actually thought PE was more a problem with PSSD, but i guess not.
For me the PE is very much connected to not having any "buildup" during sex. Loratadine helps for PE, but it basically makes it even less pleasurabe, so not a great option.
 

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Y’all, this is doing my head in. Never had an issue with this pre PFS. After my crash, now I have a hair trigger. Like uncontrollable. Nothing I do helps. I noticed it was a slow decline in the months post crash to where I finally ended up with PE. Was intermittent at first, now it’s a constant state. Anyone have any ideas as to what part of this hell causes that? Appreciate ya!

If you are doing TEI program, zinc can cause PE in high dosage from my experience. Similar how when you do not masturbate for a long time you get pressure.

Plus you are using Minoxidil which people have said it can cause PE side effects.

Minoxidil has ANTI ANDROGEN propery and acts like nitric oxide.

You also said the PE got better last time I read your post on TEI. Now it is worse again?

I think you need to stay on the program and keep going. Give it some time.

Once everything works correctly I assume PE will also be solved.
 
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ballheadbuddha

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I actually thought PE was more a problem with PSSD, but i guess not.
For me the PE is very much connected to not having any "buildup" during sex. Loratadine helps for PE, but it basically makes it even less pleasurabe, so not a great option.

acting on lowering Histamine?
but what could cause high histamine enviroment?
 

Ocguy

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Y’all, this is doing my head in. Never had an issue with this pre PFS. After my crash, now I have a hair trigger. Like uncontrollable. Nothing I do helps. I noticed it was a slow decline in the months post crash to where I finally ended up with PE. Was intermittent at first, now it’s a constant state. Anyone have any ideas as to what part of this hell causes that? Appreciate ya!

Viagra or generic used to desensitize me quite a bit, found it somewhat challenging to O

not sure anymore, cuz I'm not at a place yet where it even gets the blood flowing.
 

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Im not sure about viagra. In lower dosages it acted fine but when i took normal large doses it gave me pois...
 

MaximalCrazy

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WEED definitely since like last March, helped PE a ton. Like minutes, 5-10mins to over an hour. BUT* I recently did TEI one round and will do subsequent rounds... And I have other reasons to avoid weed. While it is pretty helpful for mood, sex drive, libido, and sleep (only if it's the right strain) , it's also bad for mood, focus, and some other stuff.

I'm either extraordinarily disciplined or kind of a mess, so I try not to use any shyt at all. BUT* I am pretty sure other people, some can just use it pre sex or pre whatever their reason is (like a life enhancer), and they'd be fine. I could use now, and did during some tense times. I'll probably keep some at my place but it would be rare usage. Not really my drug of choice. DId work way better than cialis etc, but again it affects way way more than just sex.
It's funny, before PFS weed used to make me able to last for hours on end, the few times that I tried it was like weed gave me total control of my penis and made me a full on sex God haha. Now though, weed might give me a libido boost but doesn't help with the PE at all unfortunately.
 

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WEED definitely since like last March, helped PE a ton. Like minutes, 5-10mins to over an hour. BUT* I recently did TEI one round and will do subsequent rounds... And I have other reasons to avoid weed. While it is pretty helpful for mood, sex drive, libido, and sleep (only if it's the right strain) , it's also bad for mood, focus, and some other stuff.

I'm either extraordinarily disciplined or kind of a mess, so I try not to use any shyt at all. BUT* I am pretty sure other people, some can just use it pre sex or pre whatever their reason is (like a life enhancer), and they'd be fine. I could use now, and did during some tense times. I'll probably keep some at my place but it would be rare usage. Not really my drug of choice. DId work way better than cialis etc, but again it affects way way more than just sex.

That was probably one of the most cohesive posts I've seen you write, I take it you're doing much better and can articulate yourself easier. Or it's just a matter of being less of a troll haha.

For me weed is one of the only things that gives me a libido boost also, no problems with PE for me though. Gonna hop on TEI real soon
 

hairsuit

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I actually thought PE was more a problem with PSSD, but i guess not.
For me the PE is very much connected to not having any "buildup" during sex. Loratadine helps for PE, but it basically makes it even less pleasurabe, so not a great option.
See, for me, the build up makes it even worse now. Like literally have to tell my wife not to touch me before sex. Which sucks for her. Damn this thing....
 

hairsuit

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If you are doing TEI program, zinc can cause PE in high dosage from my experience. Similar how when you do not masturbate for a long time you get pressure.

Plus you are using Minoxidil which people have said it can cause PE side effects.

Minoxidil has ANTI ANDROGEN propery and acts like nitric oxide.

You also said the PE got better last time I read your post on TEI. Now it is worse again?

I think you need to stay on the program and keep going. Give it some time.

Once everything works correctly I assume PE will also be solved.
If you are doing TEI program, zinc can cause PE in high dosage from my experience. Similar how when you do not masturbate for a long time you get pressure.

Plus you are using Minoxidil which people have said it can cause PE side effects.

Minoxidil has ANTI ANDROGEN propery and acts like nitric oxide.

You also said the PE got better last time I read your post on TEI. Now it is worse again?

I think you need to stay on the program and keep going. Give it some time.

Once everything works correctly I assume PE will also be solved.
hey bud. Appreciate your thoughts. Been on minox for like 12 years. Never had an issue with this before.

I don’t think I ever said it PE got better. It presented itself in a more intense fashion in October, and has worsened ever since. I went back and looked and couldn’t find anywhere I said it got better. If I did, that’s completely wrong. It has gotten much worse.

I’m not getting off the program. Full steam ahead. Was just wondering if this was something others had experienced. Was weird that it hit so hard this far after my crash.
 

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hey bud. Appreciate your thoughts. Been on minox for like 12 years. Never had an issue with this before.

I don’t think I ever said it PE got better. It presented itself in a more intense fashion in October, and has worsened ever since. I went back and looked and couldn’t find anywhere I said it got better. If I did, that’s completely wrong. It has gotten much worse.

I’m not getting off the program. Full steam ahead. Was just wondering if this was something others had experienced. Was weird that it hit so hard this far after my crash.

I would drop the Minox and just see if it helps. Just because it's never been an issue before in your twelve years of use, doesn't mean it's not causing the issue to persist now. Your body chemistry has been altered, so what it didn't do 12 years ago, it could be doing now.
 

RebelWithACause

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hey bud. Appreciate your thoughts. Been on minox for like 12 years. Never had an issue with this before.

I don’t think I ever said it PE got better. It presented itself in a more intense fashion in October, and has worsened ever since. I went back and looked and couldn’t find anywhere I said it got better. If I did, that’s completely wrong. It has gotten much worse.

I’m not getting off the program. Full steam ahead. Was just wondering if this was something others had experienced. Was weird that it hit so hard this far after my crash.

Ok my bad. I thought your PE was slowly getting better again after becoming worse, something like that.

Anyways I also have PE issue in PFS. It comes and goes. But I also had PE while on finasteride. It became worse the longer I was on it.

Before finasteride taking zinc would also cause PE/faster ejaculation for me.

This is why I am saying if your TEI contains zinc it is very possible this makes it worse.

I think it is important to keep going with the program and not focus on all the symptoms you have right now. It can take some time. Until then accept you have PE. It can be hard when you are in a relationship but this is reality.

Right now you have PE, not much you can do about it except follow the program. You can take a drug to help it (GABA drug, viagra, cialis, painkiller drug) but I would not do it. All that stuff is temporary.
 

hairsuit

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Ok my bad. I thought your PE was slowly getting better again after becoming worse, something like that.

Anyways I also have PE issue in PFS. It comes and goes. But I also had PE while on finasteride. It became worse the longer I was on it.

Before finasteride taking zinc would also cause PE/faster ejaculation for me.

This is why I am saying if your TEI contains zinc it is very possible this makes it worse.

I think it is important to keep going with the program and not focus on all the symptoms you have right now. It can take some time. Until then accept you have PE. It can be hard when you are in a relationship but this is reality.

Right now you have PE, not much you can do about it except follow the program. You can take a drug to help it (GABA drug, viagra, cialis, painkiller drug) but I would not do it. All that stuff is temporary.
For sure. What’s crazy is that I was on a crazy since dose on ARL before TEI. Wasn’t anywhere near this bad. I don’t think there is much zinc in what I’m taking right now.
 

hairsuit

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I would drop the Minox and just see if it helps. Just because it's never been an issue before in your twelve years of use, doesn't mean it's not causing the issue to persist now. Your body chemistry has been altered, so what it didn't do 12 years ago, it could be doing now.
True. But yeah, that’s a tough one. It’s my last hope, with needling, for holding onto my hair. It’s a complicated situation, but I’m walking a tightrope, as I need to hang on to my hair as much as possible for my work. Lame, I know.
 

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In the case of PFS, I think PE is caused by cortisol/adrenaline issues. It probably has to do with relaxing the CNS.

I have full control when I’ve had a few drinks. I can stay hard and cum twice when drunk but when I’m sober I feel the urge to ejaculate in like a minute. It sucks.

Cialia used to help me last longer because having an erection that isn’t 100% definitely worsens my PE. For some reason, cialis doesn’t help or hurt my PE now when I take it. (Been about a year since I’ve taken it. )
 

Jaxx

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See, for me, the build up makes it even worse now. Like literally have to tell my wife not to touch me before sex. Which sucks for her. Damn this thing....
Yeah i can relate, someone on the pssd forum said it well, he said that the buildup was like a journey in the past, where orgasm was pretty much a slow moving train and under control. Now the buildup is wild and even random at times.
 

Blugrass

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Guys with pe, do you get a lot of pre cum? Because that's when my PE is at its worst. I get little aroused and u start getting lots of pre cum and I can't last for two minutes.