How many PFS guys of you are still picking up girls?

pedal

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ConformistWithACause that's not an accomplishment if you are good looking or young (especially below 25) and in Europe. Stop using American pickup artist slang you sound like an idiot, this cancer has shitted up all corners of the internet in the last decade. The world is getting worse and fin is part of that, it rots your soul and from that point of view I'm not judging what you've become. The irony is fin makes it near impossible to enjoy anything except hedonism, but it greatly reduces the pleasure you might of taken from it if you were pre-pfs, like when you were young and hopefully sacrificed some temporary pleasures for something real and lasting.

Facing your fears is great but your exploits are a cringefest and you'd probably killyourself if you lived a day in an older man's shoes. The older you get the less you care what others think, but the less careless you can be, for example what would be socially acceptable for a 19 year old can easily get yourself into hot water as a grown man at least that's how it is here in the USA. If you're such a brave guy who has such technique with women and virility that makes them powerless then cut your hair in a balding nw6-nw7 pattern then go ask American girls out in male-heavy area like Denver or Los Angeles filled with jocks and well off white collar types. Bonus if you're short, not handsome and non-white and non-black which is a big thing in America.

You'll learn real quick what it's like to earn dates without a genetic or age advantage that takes care of most of the work. You want to earn it don't you, you don't want to be delusional, you want to know where you stand if you're a man that is.

I'm not calling you out I liked your rant on the importance of hormones for charisma or credibility and luck in life it's too bad it took both of us taking this poison to realize it, but you're living a lie like any young man who starts getting into this pick up bullshit. If you manage to charm your way into a date with a hard to please woman who hated you at first contact then give yourself a pat on the back but if you're picking up girls your age when they're begging for a dicking from any guy who happens to look like you then you're lying to yourself if you're smug rather than appreciative.
 

pedal

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In the end it is about finding and creating purpose in life. You can make pussy your purpose. You can make your life vision your purpose. Whatever. You need a purpose. And your purpose can change. For me pussy was my purpose because it was a big problem in my life from a young age.

I think pussy in the long run is worthless. Even marriage. For a man you have to create something of value. For yourself and the people you want to help. Not to be attractive to women. Look at all the greats. They all had a vision and went for it. Who cares how much pussy they got. No one gives a fuck.
Pussy is your sole and primary purpose in life if you are the average African negro or arab or hispanic from Central America and you have matured to puberty (their adulthood), not if you were given a brain, not if you come from a good family of good genes or at least good morals where your parents were educated and had accomplishments besides making a lot of unplanned babies. Because of pop culture many western women now think there is something manly about about being horny all the time. Of course this is a lie, it is a perversion of masculinity and an insult to the worth of men, and you are the target of this lie. To be masculine is to be in control of yourself and your environment. You have to at the very least be able to repair what you own and to control your temptations whether its food or sex or anything else. Women of today don't care about those requirements which differentiate a helpless boy full of lust from iron-willed self-reliant man and that is a trap for you, don't let that limit you.

The taboo secret is most young women are not worthy so don't get soft and caught in their web. And most men are pathetic as well, ignore their empty words and leave them behind and keep climbing to your ideal and occasionally you will find real winners with whom you can be friends and play sports and make business together. There is no clearer loss of control than to be addicted to orgasms or pornography or validation from women. Don't change your behavior to satisfy the fickle minds of broken women. That is the challenge for every young man to do the right thing even if girls laugh at you or worse, you must ignore your worries about not getting respect from girls and not getting sexual rewards and to keep progressing into the man you want to become, eventually you will become self-actualized and the best women will be yours. And those who hated on you will want you to, but you will be too good for them.

Those billionaires who want to have more money and control want to distract their competition and what is the best way than to get them to live on the lowest intellectual and spiritual level indulging their basest desires and dealing with dating drama from dysfunctional girls who would make terrible wives and mothers. That is why pornography is everywhere, and sexualized music and films and ways of speaking. Sex on your mind doesn't make you happier, it doesn't even make your sex life better, quite the opposite actually! So demand more from yourself, find a truly quality woman that also wants something more out of herself and out of a man and pity the people with empty lives and self-destructive sex habits that you can see all around you. Remember that animals breed as an imperative during a brief period at a certain time in the year and then go on with life, (your dog can run away from home for a week and come back all dirty), so what has happened to people is they have degenerated to a level below animals!
 
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pedal

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Do you know Thuleanperspective? MGTOW?

These guys also have a unique view.
MGTOW is pure defeatism it's a stupid reaction to the problems of dating. Instead of attacking the root problems or to simply overcome them with determination it's tempting to go for a temporary solution. But you don't stay the same age forever, life goes on and you get left behind! These short-sighted young men then become single men in their 30s and 40s, which in the end prevents these men from having children, the whole point of women remember?

Yes I know of mama's boy Kristian Vikernes from my previous pre-PFS 1990s/2000s life. Don't watch too much on the internet or you'll become like him!
 
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pedal

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The more you distract yourself with other peoples content and ideas the more you will lose yourself and your own opinions.
That's correct. However even if I go to the middle of nowhere I still have PFS. That is why I hate what I did, I wanted nothing more than to finally free myself of technology and peer pressure and go enjoy some nature in solitude, but I took a product of our sick medical system and was forever tied to that prison, because I was told on PH that I require modern medicine like hormonal replacement therapy to ever be half-normal again. That is the real reason taking Fin/Saw/Dut is unmasculine, not just compromised male hormones or a misplaced importance on male beauty, it has to do with handing over your self-determination. And requiring assistance at the mercy and goodwill of others if you are ever to become strong again. In that regard taking any drugs like antibiotics and recreational drugs or anything you don't know the contents and source of like beer with artificial ingredients is careless. If a woman takes antidepressants and gets hit by side-effects she doesn't stop being a woman. And women don't care about having to rely on other people and having to stay in big cities where there are certain stores and clinics. But when a guy gets sick he essentially loses his manhood for the time being. Which is why you should never be one of those smug types. That is the world we live in, there weren't enough good men in the past to prevent some of these evils so the men of today have to deal with it, the same way the younger generations will deal with what we do now.
 

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@pedal. You need to change your attitude bro. You're miserable. Its bad. Some of the stuff youre saying is very untrue.

I also lost my virginity at a late age of 22, but its really irrelevant. The reason for this is due to pharmaceutical meds and propecia. The potential was there all along. I had family members constantly putting me down my whole life, and then the anti-depressants and propecia on top of it, making it even harder for me at the time. I still had a few girls here in and there in high school, and a few blowjobs back then, but all that bs i mentioned made it so that i didnt lose my virginity till age 22. but who fucking cares. Before age 22, i had many girls begging me to fuck them, but i didnt even know it because i was so out of it/fogged up from negative family member influences and meds/propecia doing that bullshit to me. its all irrelevant bullshit. There is more to life than getting a piece of ass, we know that. But while were on the topic, im gonna say this.

Now im 32 years old, and in the last year in a half, ive been pulling women left and right, more so than ever. All because of my new attitude. Younger and older. Some of them even 18 year olds too! Honestly nowadays, alot of 18 year old girls are begging a man in his mid 30s and older to fuck the hell out of them, because the age gap at times can be very kinky in their minds. Its not as "difficult" as you think it is. Just be natural. Stop giving a fuck! Who cares!! And its not because im "white" and "good looking", which i am, but rather because of my new attitude. And dont say its because im "white" or "black" or "good looking", "or have good genetics", or what the fuck else ever. I do have alot of those things, and good genetics (minus the PFS sides), but ive seen MANY ugly ass dudes get a woman. Looks really arent that important. You have an answer for everything man. Youre miserable. The shit you're saying is 100% not true!!! Try a healthier diet, get a good exercise regimen going, eliminate gluten from your diet, and you will be amazed at how your attitude/mindset will change for the better!!

Thats all i have to say about all of that!
 
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-Holy shyt... cannot tell a story in a linear fashion:

@RebelWithACause: " If it is true NW7 25+ males cannot get chicks."
2 friends come to mind - one like 4-5 inches shorter than me, bald/shaved/smooth since we were before friends. 30ish.
-this first friend also lost like 150lb, has tons of scars, had testicle surgery I think 3 times, has health/genetic problems (puts on a good face and only really discusses it with good friends). Given a bad deal by medicine too.
-Stayed at my place. Lost his job, parents cut him off a while back. He was HOMELESS, locked out of his apartment, showered at a friend's house and still got laid.
-Great guy (though annoyed the hell out of me at times, but that's true of nearly anyone and you gotta be patient with friends and realize they aren't doing it on purpose).
-Shorter, was significantly overweight, had excess skin (fixed all), scars, major hair loss, biggest player in my building, above 25 yrs old, etc. -Replaced like a ton of teeth too, not sure why probably some problem or bad teeth care when he was younger.
-Yeah so he was without home for like 2 weeks at least (obviously not a long time, but a FALL from grace considering extraordinarily rich parents).

-SIDENOTE: Not homeless nor too messed up while at my place. He is good looking, but one could say oh he's short, ethnic, whatever. He wasn't cut off from family that much when living with me, I obviously wouldn't turn away a good friend to the streets, while living with me. I was doing school, he had a sick job (but changed jobs a lot too like me).

-and one friend 36ish, both slept with hundreds. Both friends in decent shape. Second friend a fitness enthusiast/addict (owns a gym).
-tons of weirdos with hot women. I don't mean weirdos as in jacking off all day or something worse like being a meth addict or unemployed for 40 years (some of them sleep with lots of women too, I'm certain). I mean, I personally dislike/think they're a weirdo.
-I went out with several girls in teens and 20's who married guys who seem to be not cool to me, however I'm sure they are happy enough... and it's not nice to judge, and I try not to. -I'm not jealous, I literally don't even recognize people that I've spent a lot of time with half the time.
-had friends from ethnicities that are hated on who are HUGE players (but probably good genes and charisma, and social experience/ability played a role).
-have seen guys that by some of the accounts here should be players but aren't.
-not one size solution fitting all.... can't blame whatever on everyone else. I dislike/despise a lot of society, but it's bc a lot of crazy stuff has happened.... but I won't justify me losing, based on them. Some just choose/need/are forced to do things their own way, and don't need a role model, bc they are their own. Others can choose better role models than ones that are bad.
-I learn a little from everyone. The guy with perfect grades, the guy naturally good at all sports, the guy with genius ideas, not following some rule-set besides a few of my own, and it isn't JUST TO GET LAID... some people want legacy, and success. Being successful/ making money doesn't make one a loser. Maybe growing up poor, makes people like that.
-Even the dumbass can be learned from in some ways (depending on what they are a dumbass about).
-Can't generalize a whole, race that's just fucking stupid.
-Have an uncle who got laid WAY WAY more in his late 20's, 30's and 40's, than early 20's, bald too. Literally, he doesn't give a fuck (good skill).

-We all make instant decisions based on some sterotypes (schemas), some more than others... But there are girls that will make fun of (playfully, not in a cunt-way), and still sleep with the guy.
-can't be defeatist (bc it's this, or that).
-If anything hair loss etc is bad for self-esteem to a lot of people. Not a death sentence.
-I went "crazy" (now people will call me crazy again, go fuck yourselves) when I first lost hair.... bc I worried about it for years and years... NOT just for women.
-Not getting in better and better shape JUST for women. But it actually calms down/ centers/ helps me focus/ sort out the rest of life.
-Just getting laid at 16 22 25 28 and being worthless.... can fuck a person's mind up too.
-Look at all the cool kids from high school worth less than a car or watch now, getting stoned all day, never amounting to shit.... Jealous of them? That's retarded.
-To Pedal, basically.
-Porn degrades men and women. AND reinforces a lot of the thinking behind what you're saying. I hate a lot too... but probably true in any country I lived in or will live in.
-It's part of life... some are easygoing, some aren't.
-I'd love to be free of tech too... but pending career/work/study/money stuff..... will make that impossible longer than a few days. maybe eventually.
-And there is no right way.... maybe there is, but if it doesn't actually exist - then it isn't practical ... just all make it right for you as an individual/for people around you.

-I said a lot of stuff before, but really... can anyone say for sure you like this person or not this person ALWAYS for a precise reason?
-Someone can be attractive but not cute, approachable depending on their mood.
-You can start to like someone also... unless all closed off.
-I met two girls in one day several years ago with a friend (at some department store and also: at a downtown school).
-THOUGHT, I liked girl 2 better bc she was more laid back/ approachable. Realized I like girl 1 better but she had a boyfriend (probably all do so who knows really).
-I thought I liked girl 2 because she was shy, cute... I actually liked girl 1 better esp when she wanted to get back to her boyfriend... so who the fuck knows why liking someone vs not... isn't all race/height/looks..............
 
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In many south american countries, women are treated horribly (obviously elsewhere in the world too). I'm not calling out south american/latin american countries nor people, I'm saying from friends who travelled there a lot, and people who LEFT for good reason.
"Pussy is your sole and primary purpose in life if you are the average African negro or arab or hispanic from Central America and you have matured to puberty (their adulthood), not if you were given a brain, not if you come from a good family of good genes or at least good morals where your parents were educated and had accomplishments besides making a lot of unplanned babies."

Some opinions may change, if you have a daughter or niece or something.
They aren't all brainless.... jesus christ/ hard to argue against such reprehensible reasoning.
-What about the black/african surgeon or black hedge fund guys?
-One of my friends, Trinidadian... great with girls and destroyed me seemingly effortlessly GPA wise (I had other issues going on though that were hard to deal with).
-Race wise --- a lot of things about both of us should be opposite.
-I don't think he's brainless, regardless of the birth city/country of his parents.
Do you understand how economies develop over time, and technological accumulation shapes and changes cultural norms (including dating, mating, child-rearing)?
-People hold on to predjudices without even knowing how it shapes their world view.... and affects their judgements on their lot in life, and others'.
-I thought girl 1 was more intimidating (based off looks) and tricked myself into liking girl 2 more. Girl 1 WAS WAY WAY nicer and liked me more, and vice versa. So even with my own reasoning regarding the situation / I was wrong.... and changed my mind.
-I prefer girls with a certain color hair. My little cousin dated 2 girls with the same name (not a common name) for a long time... We all made fun of him, but he swears it wasn't bc of the name.
-there's no reason FOR A LOT of life, let alone dating. SO who really knows...........
-there's chaos everywhere.

-Girls from my own background, are often spoiled and I can't deal with them, let alone their brothers/father, etc.
-Yet, I really liked some, even those born back home and coming to Canada.
-Dated one, and she was nearly just like girls brought up here (place changed a lot in decades).
-At times, I thought they didn't like me... then I had only friends from that background and obviously met way more.
-Some uptight, intimidating looking girls are NICER / more like me... and I get along better. More exp, makes it more likely to find a long term match.
-Some nicer/sweet looking girls are totally crazy/manipulative. Looks can be deceiving.
-Most crazy people out there were kind of made that way from family, experiences, dealing with assholes.
-And I think a lot of it is just going out there and trying.
-Looking back at first and second gf's, I dislike them as people... I broke up with both of them (well also moved to the other side of the world again, with first so it was
obviously shorter term), but.... I must have liked them. Opinions can change, and circumstances.
 
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pedal

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You have an answer for everything man. Youre miserable. The shit you're saying is 100% not true!!! Try a healthier diet, get a good exercise regimen going, eliminate gluten from your diet, and you will be amazed at how your attitude/mindset will change for the better!!
Only you can be the judge, you know if you're living off your looks or you're being a man.

There are guys all around you that you see on a daily basis but you don't want to notice that live tough lives with much less rewards simply because of how they look. But my point wasn't even to feel sorry for them, it was to crave the same level of challenge (or SOME of the same challenges) that they have to face because otherwise you're robbing yourself of life experience and you will regret it with time because those with hardships get to know themselves more than tall handsome guys who have it easy and refuse to ask more of themselves and pat themselves on the back for being alpha when really it's all their looks which they inherited by luck. That was my point, to not fool yourself, to keep pushing while you are young and it will pay off.
 
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