How to free up/ increase glutathione?

merebalacy

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So, I can’t take NAC as I have a CBS mutation so I can’t handle sulfur.

What are some of the ways to free glutathione up?

Clearing infections
Treating deficiencies
Diet
Exercise
…?
 

Fazed22

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Getting rid of heavy metals, drinking coffee and coffee enemas, avoiding seed oil foods which form lipid peroxides depleting glutathione, b2, b6, b9, b12 help make glutathione, Essential amino acids supplement, and to metabolise sulfur you need molybdenum and b12
 

highserotonin90

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So, I can’t take NAC as I have a CBS mutation so I can’t handle sulfur.

What are some of the ways to free glutathione up?

Clearing infections
Treating deficiencies
Diet
Exercise
…?
What negative reactions do you have from NAC ? I seem to remember gbol advocating copper toxicity in the brain as an upstream "block" but I agree with those who also advocate scattered infections.
 

merebalacy

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What negative reactions do you have from NAC ? I seem to remember gbol advocating copper toxicity in the brain as an upstream "block" but I agree with those who also advocate scattered infections.
I haven't tried it yet, the general consensus is to not take it with a CBS mutation. When I am a little better, I'll try it, but I am willing to bet it'll mess up a few things; maybe stimulate too much of a detox.
 

merebalacy

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Getting rid of heavy metals, drinking coffee and coffee enemas, avoiding seed oil foods which form lipid peroxides depleting glutathione, b2, b6, b9, b12 help make glutathione, Essential amino acids supplement, and to metabolise sulfur you need molybdenum and b12
What do you think about taking S-acetyl - l - glutathione? Would it decrease my natural production eventually?
 

Fazed22

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What do you think about taking S-acetyl - l - glutathione? Would it decrease my natural production eventually?
Glutathione is a rich sulfur compound so if you don't tolerate NAC then will be the same for glutathione. Give coffee enemas a shot they increase GST in the liver by 600-700%
 

merebalacy

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Glutathione is a rich sulfur compound so if you don't tolerate NAC then will be the same for glutathione. Give coffee enemas a shot they increase GST in the liver by 600-700%
Nice, how long do the improvements last? Should I do them every week?
 

Fazed22

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Nice, how long do the improvements last? Should I do them every week?
Well improvements should be permanent if you do them consistently for a few months, they are getting metals out of the liver and improving the bile. But they are not for everyone, I think there is a small sub group of people they can be bad for
 

Fazed22

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Nice, how long do the improvements last? Should I do them every week?
Yeah a few times a week should be good, some people do them everyday though. You'll see after the first few if they're helpful or not for you. The first one might not go that well as it takes some getting used to but start on one tablespoon of coffee.
 

Fazed22

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Well improvements should be permanent if you do them consistently for a few months, they are getting metals out of the liver and improving the bile. But they are not for everyone, I think there is a small sub group of people they can be bad for
Also cleansing the gut of pathogens
 

freyadog

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I've read glutathione supplementation could be problematic when there is toxin load in the body, because the exogen glut. could redistribute metals and toxins.
Same with alpha lipoic acid.
About CBS you prob. have read that geneticlifehacks page: CBS Gene Mutation and Low Sulfur Diet
 

highserotonin90

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Should coffee enemas be performed with the simple pumpettes or those devices where the liquid enters in a controlled manner ? The bags that hang like an IV.

500 ml at a time is too much ?

Thanks

@Fazed22
 

Fazed22

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Should coffee enemas be performed with the simple pumpettes or those devices where the liquid enters in a controlled manner ? The bags that hang like an IV.

500 ml at a time is too much ?

Thanks

@Fazed22
I use 800ml of water with one tablespoon of coffee. Also get a coffee enema kit that has a bucket made out of steel, glass or plastic the enema` bags are a pain to clean and use. For water I just use bottled spring water but you can also use distilled water. If you join the coffee enema fb group they have a guide there.
 

Ingeno

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I've read glutathione supplementation could be problematic when there is toxin load in the body, because the exogen glut. could redistribute metals and toxins.
Same with alpha lipoic acid.
About CBS you prob. have read that geneticlifehacks page: CBS Gene Mutation and Low Sulfur Diet
I felt great on NAC at first but eventually got anhedonia and rebound anxiety. Any tips?

Now I go low and slow, very low dose nac 2x 50mg daily combined with binders. Somehow NAC makes my balls and dick bigger. So I want to keep experimenting with it. If I didnt get the anhedonia it would be perfect .
 

freyadog

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Very good article / webside on that whole topic traslated via google ↑


The Info from there is used to make that abstract:

Why L-Cysteine is discouraged but NAC might be okay

Based on Cutler, Daunderer, and Boyd Haley insights.

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1. L-CYSTEINE vs. NAC — Key Differences
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| Feature | L-Cysteine | N-Acetylcysteine (NAC) |
|----------------------------|-------------------------------------|----------------------------------------|
| Stability | Unstable, quickly oxidized | Stable, acetylated form |
| Reactivity | Highly reactive thiol (-SH) | Less reactive, slower conversion |
| Risk of Hg Mobilization | High – can move Hg into cells | Lower, more controlled effect |
| GSH Synthesis Support | Direct precursor, fast | Indirect, slower & safer |
| Cellular Uptake | Direct uptake possible | Requires deacetylation first |

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2. ALA (Alpha-Lipoic Acid) — ⚠️ HANDLE WITH EXTREME CAUTION
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- ALA is **lipophilic**, crosses **blood-brain barrier**
- Has **2 thiol groups** → strong metal-binding capacity
- Can **mobilize mercury into the brain** if used incorrectly

⚠️ **Never take ALA randomly or in multi-supplement formulas!**

- It must be dosed **strictly by half-life (every 3 hours)**
- Only **RS-ALA** has a known half-life (~3h) used in Cutler protocol
- Other forms (R-ALA, Na-R-ALA) have **different pharmacokinetics**
- Taking ALA **without chelation schedule = dangerous redistribution**

✅ ALA is only safe if:
- You follow **Andrew Cutler's protocol exactly**
- You use **RS-ALA**, not R-ALA or Na-R-ALA
- You dose **every 3h, even at night**, for several days

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3. THE PROBLEM WITH CYSTEINE, METHIONINE, GSH
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These can:
- Bind mercury loosely
- Mobilize Hg from tissue but fail to escort it out
- Potentially increase brain/cellular Hg load

Glutathione (GSH):
- Cannot enter cells from outside
- Intracellular GSH = ~1000x higher than extracellular
- Taking GSH orally/IV just floods extracellular space

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4. WHY NAC IS DIFFERENT (But Still Needs Caution)
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- NAC is acetylated → less reactive than L-Cysteine
- Must be deacetylated → slower rise in free thiols
- Helps intracellular GSH synthesis **gradually**

Cutler dosage:
- Max **200 mg NAC per dose**
- Only if **Cysteine/Methionine are low** (check amino acid test)

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5. BEST STRATEGY TO INCREASE GSH (per Cutler)
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Better than GSH or Cysteine:
→ Use precursor blend for *in-cell* GSH production

NAC : Glycine : Glutamine

Suggested ratios:
- Cutler: 4 : 2 : 1 (NAC-heavy)
- Safer alt.: 1 : 4 : 2 (less NAC, more glycine)

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6. SUMMARY – What’s Safe, What’s Risky?
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| Substance | Recommendation |
|------------------|-------------------------------------|
| L-Cysteine | ❌ Avoid – fast Hg mobilization |
| Methionine | ❌ Same – risky redistribution |
| GSH (oral/IV) | ❌ Not effective – may worsen Hg |
| ALA (random use) | ❌ DANGEROUS – never without protocol|
| ALA (Cutler) | ✅ Only RS-ALA, every 3h, strict plan|
| NAC (low dose) | ✅ OK w/ caution – <200mg per dose |
| NAC (high dose) | ⚠️ Risk – may mobilize Hg too fast |

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Final Rule: ❗ NEVER mobilize mercury without binding + escort
You want **controlled chelation**, not random redistribution.
 

merebalacy

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So, I can’t take NAC as I have a CBS mutation so I can’t handle sulfur.

What are some of the ways to free glutathione up?

Clearing infections
Treating deficiencies
Diet
Exercise
…?
Do the reasons for low glutathione also apply to low nadph?
 

manu

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Do the reasons for low glutathione also apply to low nadph?
NADPH is needed as cofactor in glutathione recycling.

You can be low in glutathione either if synthesis/recycling is low or if a lot is used (e.g. toxicities).

If a lot is used for heavy metal toxicity (should be visible on hair test or urine) you could use a binder (e.g. mcp) this then will free up glutathione.

But it could also be low because recycling is low because NADPH is low.
Then you have to think why NADPH is low etc.