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MNK99

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-Scalp itch turned on... --> More androgenic.... perhaps... but this is anabolic more than androgenic rite? So more 5ar activation or sensitivity?
-Deeper voice? You're either manic/enraged (jk, you're neither, you're actually pretty fucking calm) or HIGHER DHT.

More androgenic ... I could be totally wrong tho.

Lifts go up a lot? Even leaner? I know you're lean af, anyways. Quicker to heal and or recover?

HOW m was this? 100 USD 200USD? Not like 800 rite?
 
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IHateFin

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-Scalp itch turned on... --> More androgenic.... perhaps... but this is anabolic more than androgenic rite? So more 5ar activation or sensitivity?
-Deeper voice? You're either manic/enraged (jk, you're neither, you're actually pretty fucking calm) or HIGHER DHT.

More androgenic ... I could be totally wrong tho.

Lifts go up a lot? Even leaner? I know you're lean af, anyways. Quicker to heal and or recover?

HOW m was this? 100 USD 200USD? Not like 800 rite?

who knows what it means haha , but i dont feel great... feel a bit of anxiety and overall awkwardness and sluggish thinking/processing stuff haha could just be shut down.

this stuff is like 70 bucks i think? not that pricey
 

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-That's true, who the fuck knows?! Lol.
-Nice, that's a good price... Less than ella/ru
-Way less than most drugs or even alc here.
-MNK's getting antsy.... will wait for TEI... just a week.

-OH just read your last line from your post on pg 12 "Should I stop?"... Maybe, but maybe wait for Helen to analyze this tomro.

Hairsuit- t is money... Save time cure soon... Buy new hair. Hell, FUEs look amazing if done rite. Obv I still like hair but this also truez.
 
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Do we have to turn hairloss on in order to feel better? That’s the question I keep chewing on. When I was on Fin all those years, I did feel great for the most part. No sexual issues, and I kept my hair. So it was possible somehow, to have my cake and eat it too. Now coming off of it is when the problems start. I really hope there’s a way to fix this without having to accelerate hairloss.
 
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Helen

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Do we have to turn hairloss on in order to feel better? That’s the question I keep chewing on. When I was on Fin all those years, I did feel great for the most part. No sexual issues, and I kept my hair. So it was possible somehow, to have my cake and eat it too. Now coming off of it is when the problems start. I really hope there’s a way to fix this without having to accelerate hairloss.

If you feel great on fin, why are you coming off.
 

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update day 7:

woke up with muuuuuch better morning wood and slept very well. last night i took 2 seriphos so im sure that helped.
felt meh and overall not good. voice seems deeper through out the day as opposed to some sofening later in the day like before var. also feeling hairloss sensations now. not sure what this means. is this when its really working now since im no longer feeling good or a sign to stop?
@Helen

just a thought, what is the point of taking seriphos if you are trying to lower cortisol? Cortisol is already blocked if you are on anavar, so lowering serum cortisol with seriphos isn't going to do much if cortisol is being blocked from the receptor in the first place from anavar. That is why serum cortisol levels will rise in steroids like anavar, because it can't bind or work so it raises in serum.
 

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just a thought, what is the point of taking seriphos if you are trying to lower cortisol? Cortisol is already blocked if you are on anavar, so lowering serum cortisol with seriphos isn't going to do much if cortisol is being blocked from the receptor in the first place from anavar. That is why serum cortisol levels will rise in steroids like anavar, because it can't bind or work so it raises in serum.

I only took it that night since cort seemed to stay high at night n I had some sleep issues due to that.
 

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Do we have to turn hairloss on in order to feel better? That’s the question I keep chewing on. When I was on Fin all those years, I did feel great for the most part. No sexual issues, and I kept my hair. So it was possible somehow, to have my cake and eat it too. Now coming off of it is when the problems start. I really hope there’s a way to fix this without having to accelerate hairloss.

And this makes me wonder...if people who were good go back on fin, does everything goes back to normal?
 

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update day 7:

woke up with muuuuuch better morning wood and slept very well. last night i took 2 seriphos so im sure that helped.
felt meh and overall not good. voice seems deeper through out the day as opposed to some sofening later in the day like before var. also feeling hairloss sensations now. not sure what this means. is this when its really working now since im no longer feeling good or a sign to stop?
@Helen
On the potassium, I noticed the hair loss sensations. That probably shows it’s doing it’s job
 

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Am I only one that felt shit on finasteride? I always felt bad from beginning. Bad brainfog, depression and tired. I just wanted to keep my hair at that point and convinced myself the side effects were not that bad.
I felt bad on it too. No energy and then got sore nipples and sexual side effects.
 

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On the potassium, I noticed the hair loss sensations. That probably shows it’s doing it’s job

I also have this on potassium + magnesium. Not as bad before using finasteride though. But I think I was very imbalanced. My diet was low in zinc. Heavy masturbation past. Etc. I think I had sky high DHT and estrogen before finasteride. Which makes you extremely horny I think. I would have so bad itching it would drive me crazy.
 

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woke up with muuuuuch better morning wood and slept very well. last night i took 2 seriphos so im sure that helped.
felt meh and overall not good. voice seems deeper through out the day as opposed to some sofening later in the day like before var. also feeling hairloss sensations now. not sure what this means. is this when its really working now since im no longer feeling good or a sign to stop?
@Helen

Anavar is not extremely suppressive right? I think estrogen is what shuts you down the hardest. Anavar does not convert to estrogen right. You probably feel bad because it is not as strong as DHT. Which is good sign and normal that you feel bad. This is just speculating.
 

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I also have this on potassium + magnesium. Not as bad before using finasteride though. But I think I was very imbalanced. My diet was low in zinc. Heavy masturbation past. Etc. I think I had sky high DHT and estrogen before finasteride. Which makes you extremely horny I think. I would have so bad itching it would drive me crazy.
Same exactly like me. Extreme scalp itch that was like torture. And my sex drive just wasn’t normal - way too high.
 

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I also have this on potassium + magnesium. Not as bad before using finasteride though. But I think I was very imbalanced. My diet was low in zinc. Heavy masturbation past. Etc. I think I had sky high DHT and estrogen before finasteride. Which makes you extremely horny I think. I would have so bad itching it would drive me crazy.

this sounds like me before fin. i was unbealiveably horny right before and i have the most painful scalp itch and even the sides of my head would shed crazy and my eye brows would burn and shed lol like wtf did i do to my health!?! i was eating sdo bad so i dont doubt my estrogen was high with dht
 

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Anavar is not extremely suppressive right? I think estrogen is what shuts you down the hardest. Anavar does not convert to estrogen right. You probably feel bad because it is not as strong as DHT. Which is good sign and normal that you feel bad. This is just speculating.

true dht is not as supressive as estrogen especially considering estrogen directly effects the HPTA and test production... which is why drugs that increase test target blocking estrogen for that feedback loop.

i think you might be right. some dht scalp sensations returning and morning wood very present even this morning which usually indicates the opposite of supression... seems to have only gotten stronger minus one day when it was weak.
 

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i have been sneezing a ton too and sniffely starting yesterday... i wonder if this has anything to do with histimine levels or cortisol blockage. i hope this isnt due to the night before last night be taking seriphos since it did start yesterday afterall and i know cort is anti inflammatory. that could just be a coincidence i guess.

my sleep is 100% back to normal tho since after starting var it must have messed with serum cort which messed my sleep up at night im guessing
 
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Helen

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i have been sneezing a ton too and sniffely starting yesterday... i wonder if this has anything to do with histimine levels or cortisol blockage. i hope this isnt due to the night before last night be taking seriphos since it did start yesterday afterall and i know cort is anti inflammatory. that could just be a coincidence i guess.

my sleep is 100% back to normal tho since after starting var it must have messed with serum cort which messed my sleep up at night im guessing

if something blocks cortisol, then you have only one thing to work on, adrenaline- thus fucked up sleep.
 

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if something blocks cortisol, then you have only one thing to work on, adrenaline- thus fucked up sleep.

ah so that is why anavar messed up my sleep? i must say when i first started var i did get little spurts of adrenaline especially right after taking it
 

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If you feel great on fin, why are you coming off.
I said for the most part. 15 years I took it. 7 years ago I had a really rough six month period of fatigue and brain fog. Pretty severe. Just thought I was going crazy. Lol. But didn’t know at the time it was Fin. It evened out and and I weened off and switched to topical Fin. It was this past year that I jumped back on the pill, a month in figured it was pointless and I would just stick with topical. Quit cold turkey. It all hit the fan.
 
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