Ihatefin log

[IHateFin]

@IHateFin On a side note. I am glad you are doing good ,brother. IS that a boner on PICTURE 4? LOL WTF ahhahaha

thanks, man!
lol no it snot a boner haha some times my peepee seems chubbed through my tight shorts

 

[IHateFin]

@IHateFin Can you take nothing and tell us your baseline. Since as of now I honestly dont get what is your baseline. You took var, then went off var, everything died. then you took D , then potassium with histidine and almost the whole electrolytes protocol

Tubzy reacted to var the same way you did. He felt great on var. When he came off , he felt much less energy and like you he felt he was tired.

to get rid of that feeling he constantly needs to load things now.


tubzy went on var second time, but his cortisol as we measured it in blood, already fell down, this time he felt like shit on var. And came off var after 5 days

and now he is loading on electrolytes via Juicing.


We did not really experience any change, the only thing we did experience with Var was cortisol up and down.

this explains that the people with low cortisol did not feel great while on var . and people with high cortisol and water retention felt good on var.

Since var lowers cortisol

And actually people with high cortisol and low testoterone not only dont get suppressed on VAR. Their Testosterone goes up. Same as happened with Tubzy/


Until cortisol goes down, VAR will not suppress you it will actually increase LH.

So if someone had water retention from high cortisol. taken var or ella or ru gets rid of water retention. since it kills cortisol mainly.



Potassium b6 ( b2) histidine etc that is the combo that I used without even any var.


This is why it is important to access what var does and what it does not do. Since we will have people jump on it. and We already had a lot of people jump on DHT gel previous weeks and some of them now at the emergency heart attack level. SO we have to be unbiased and careful.

I did push anavar on this website. But I need to collect proper info about the trials.

youre right i have experimented, but i can tell something has changed due to var since i did not ever react anything like this to these same supplements. same supplements, but this time after var i used them at lower doses and MAGIC haha

maybe the supps have helped me be more ready for another var cycle? maybe its the missing piece of a puzzle to help the changes var made to stick? not sure, but i think its very insghtful about the slight experimenting. something is diff and i guys we have almost a base clean var double trial from tubz and my trial then sups then trial again to see the difference on the two.

 

[Helen]

youre right i have experimented, but i can tell something has changed due to var since i did not ever react anything like this to these same supplements. same supplements, but this time after var i used them at lower doses and MAGIC haha

maybe the supps have helped me be more ready for another var cycle? maybe its the missing piece of a puzzle to help the changes var made to stick? not sure, but i think its very insghtful about the slight experimenting. something is diff and i guys we have almost a base clean var double trial from tubz and my trial then sups then trial again to see the difference on the two.

there is no magic. var lowers cortisol. and allows potassium to go in)) If a person had high cortisol, potassium was not allowed.


Var lowers cortisol, potassium raises cortisol))

 

[IHateFin]

Glad you’re doing well man!

But yea as our girl Helen stated above, you’re putting things in your system that are helping no doubt.

Histidine makes me feel somewhat cured when I’m feeling well (currently not, Lyme issues.) That amino is extremely strong when it comes to this. For example, last year RU/prog gave me huge boost- then when I stopped I moved right to histidine/zinc finger aminos. This was when I really started feeling great.

So maybe we find a way of using drug/hormone/steroid like var, ru, progs of world followed by health circuit including aminos like histidine.

There are definitely different cases of pfs. And different routes, but Var definitely seems promising. Esspecially followed with good health, mineral balance, aminos etc.

thanks, buddy!

i think youre both right! var may end up being the tool to wipe a clean slate or adjust receptors in a way that may get the body ready for some healthy vitains or aminos

 

[IHateFin]

Haha, his libido is back baby.

haha when im doing good my weewee has more life in it if you catch my drift lol

 

[IHateFin]

Looking good man.

I also have good days and then I take vitamin or supplement and I am fucked again. LOL

I am interested in Anavar now. Could not hurt to try I think.

thanks, brother!

yeah im the same way. i will say that this is the best "supplement crash" i have ever had in the sense that i dont feel the horrible crippling anxiety once i go from good to shit of thinking ill never get it back or something. thats why i say it feels more stable.

so far i think var is a great option and it seems to affect a lot of us the same way.

 

[Helen]

thanks, brother!

yeah im the same way. i will say that this is the best "supplement crash" i have ever had in the sense that i dont feel the horrible crippling anxiety once i go from good to shit of thinking ill never get it back or something. thats why i say it feels more stable.

so far i think var is a great option and it seems to affect a lot of us the same way.

this is why I am saying , please dont take anything and reaccess your condition, without anything.

If var lowers your cortisol, and you are increasing your cortisol again. of course you will have less anxiety in doing so.

Just take nothing and see where you are. constantly popping pills just confuses the whole thing. We dont want to steer people into drugs unless they actually cure something.

 

[IHateFin]

there is no magic. var lowers cortisol. and allows potassium to go in)) If a person had high cortisol, potassium was not allowed.


Var lowers cortisol, potassium raises cortisol))

Hmm so maybe the possible soon to be deemed "var protocol" might be a 2 to 3 week hoorah then cycle off n refeed potassium vitamins and aminos n repeat? Kind of like the cdnuts Randro protocol where you go on Randro then pct is cycling herbs.

Maybe var pct is vitamins n aminos?

My 2nd trial will shed that extra light

 

[IHateFin]

this is why I am saying , please dont take anything and reaccess your condition, without anything.

If var lowers your cortisol, and you are increasing your cortisol again. of course you will have less anxiety in doing so.

Just take nothing and see where you are. constantly popping pills just confuses the whole thing. We dont want to steer people into drugs unless they actually cure something.

I'm cleaning it up this week! The one thing I'll stay taking tho is bcomplex n b6 since I have been taking that all summer; through var cycle up until now so it's consistent enough to be a baseline I'd say haha

 

[Helen]

I'm cleaning it up this week! The one thing I'll stay taking tho is bcomplex n b6 since I have been taking that all summer; through var cycle up until now so it's consistent enough to be a baseline I'd say haha

No my friend. B6 is the thing that is lost in pyroluria which is what PFS is. many people just by tkaing B6 feel totally normal.

If they take zinc plus active b6 = Totally recovered and normal.

Take away b6))


PLus dont forget that if your b6 gets too high in your blood you wiill get nerv damage)). just FYI


Dont take any supplements and see where you are. You should understand that even if var were to fix you, you dont allow it to do so.

Since the body will retain what it needs from foods after var within weeks. or a month. But you are feeding the body certain things which are unbalanced.

Tubzy is just juicing everything and doing good. you should may be try to do the same instead of feeding unbalanced supplements.

 

[IHateFin]

No my friend. B6 is the thing that is lost in pyroluria which is what PFS is. many people just by tkaing B6 feel totally normal.

If they take zinc plus active b6 = Totally recovered and normal.

Take away b6))


PLus dont forget that if your b6 gets too high in your blood you wiill get nerv damage)). just FYI


Dont take any supplements and see where you are. You should understand that even if var were to fix you, you dont allow it to do so.

Since the body will retain what it needs from foods after var within weeks. or a month. But you are feeding the body certain things which are unbalanced.

Tubzy is just juicing everything and doing good. you should may be try to do the same instead of feeding unbalanced supplements.

roger that!

i take low dose like 50mg instead of the 300mg ppl recommend for prolactin, but ill play it safe.

it can be good tho maybe to see how we both do with a supplement cycling in between cycles and a more conventional juicing and see the different outcomes, no?

 

[Helen]

@IHateFin Dude if var changed things, then the body will retain what it needs, it takes a little time. but it will do it. But your impatient and manual feeding of stuff could stop this process. learn how to take nothing. I know it is a challenge for you.

Contact Tubzy he will give you his juice recipe. )))

 

[Helen]

roger that!

i take low dose like 50mg instead of the 300mg ppl recommend for prolactin, but ill play it safe.

50mg is not a low dosage LOL . if you had high prolactin , that means your body wants to retain calcium, this is why vitamin D helped you))

but you take b6 which lowers that ability.

 

[IHateFin]

@IHateFin Dude if var changed things, then the body will retain what it needs, it takes a little time. but it will do it. But your impatient and manual feeding of stuff could stop this process. learn how to take nothing. I know it is a challenge for you.

Contact Tubzy he will give you his juice recipe. )))

i can admit i am very impulsive.. even that is a bit of an understatement haha

ill ask him what his juicing is like directly if i dont find what i need in his log

 

[Helen]

@Boris please tell our young friend here what you are juicing.))

 

[TubZy]

I'm juicing basically all of the stuff in electrolytes protocol. So spinach, beets and carrots (and sometimes and apple for taste) and just eat high protein. But all of those have the minerals/vitamins and electrolytes (loaded with potassium). If you feel like crap again or low energy try drinking like 20-30 ounces of it a few times a day, you should feel better immediately since your body has no choice but to absorb it since there is no digestion required. I drink one first thing in the morning and another one preworkout.

I did two cycles of var- first one felt great, second one - felt like shit. Second cycle I went back on var, and tried juicing while on var and my energy didn't pick up at all. I quit var and been juicing like crazy and my energy libido etc. all increased over baseline, been doing it steadily for about two weeks now. I also just got a TEI hair test done as well to see what happen post var, but for me during my initial cycle var lowered my high cort and I felt very good. Second cycle my cort was normal/low (confirmed by blood test) and I went back on same dosage and everything and I was so fatigued and low energy so I stopped after 5 days.

 

[Helen]

I'm juicing basically all of the stuff in electrolytes protocol. So spinach, beets and carrots (and sometimes and apple for taste) and just eat high protein. But all of those have the minerals/vitamins and electrolytes (loaded with potassium). If you feel like crap again or low energy try drinking like 20-30 ounces of it a few times a day, you should feel better immediately. Before my second short cycle of var that restored my energy for me. I drink one first thing in the morning and another one preworkout.

Then I went back on var, and tried juicing while on var and my energy didn't pick up at all. I quit var and been juicing like crazy and my energy libido etc. all increased over baseline, been doing it steadily for about two weeks now. I also just got a TEI hair test done as well to see what happen post var, but for me during my initial cycle var lowered my high cort and I felt very good. Second cycle my cort was normal/low (confirmed by blood test) and I went back on same dosage and everything and I was so fatigued and low energy.

Exactly, corts goes with potassium. if you have high potassium var lowers it. and you feel better.until potassium goes down)

So when potassium goes down, then taking var again feels like shit. then you juice or take potassium and cortisol goes right back up))

then you overdo it like inhatefin and you feel like shit again since cortisol is up again))

the idea here is to raise potassium without rising cortisol)) and var cant do it)) since this can be done only by lowering histamine ))

So lets hope that if you lowered cortisol with var, now that you are juicing you are getting tons of copper and calcium. not to allow cortisol to just lift up again.

This is what we saw on your hairtest pre var. fast oxidation, for which TEI would have given you copper and calcium.

And now after Var that oxidation crashed. but it crashed not because you got in needed minerals, but because you crashed hormones with drugs.

 

[K8668B]

I'm proud of you @IHateFin . I just know you are going to be cured. Your words from your posts says it all and it speaks for itself! Great pictures, you look good, and beautiful family by the way! Fuck the bullshit, and enjoy yourself!

 

[IHateFin]

Exactly, corts goes with potassium. if you have high potassium var lowers it. and you feel better.until potassium goes down)

So when potassium goes down, then taking var again feels like shit. then you juice or take potassium and cortisol goes right back up))

then you overdo it like inhatefin and you feel like shit again since cortisol is up again))

the idea here is to raise potassium without rising cortisol)) and var cant do it)) since this can be done only by lowering histamine ))

So lets hope that if you lowered cortisol with var, now that you are juicing you are getting tons of copper and calcium. not to allow cortisol to just lift up again.

This is what we saw on your hairtest pre var. fast oxidation, for which TEI would have given you copper and calcium.

And now after Var that oxidation crashed. but it crashed not because you got in needed minerals, but because you crashed hormones with drugs.

this gives me a ton of insight! thank you, helen. i knew soe serious shit was changing but without knowing what i get so lost n i overthink lol now i can be more careful especially for my next cycle. theoretically i should be good on 2nd cycle since my potassium and cort are back up according to what i felt and what you mentioned

 

[IHateFin]

I'm proud of you @IHateFin . I just know you are going to be cured. Your words from your posts says it all and it speaks for itself! Great pictures, you look good, and beautiful family by the way! Fuck the bullshit, and enjoy yourself!

thanks, brother!! i owe a shit ton to this forum n all the guys on here! i still got a ways to go, but the path is paved, and now im stable and dont have to walk on egg shells every single day.

thank you thank you! i havent seen this side of my family in years and thanks to the help of this forum they were none the wiser about what i have been through