Ihatefin log

[IHateFin]

knew it.
lolz jk, don't worry about it @IHateFin, it will all workout sooner or later (whether needing one or two more things, or TEI). you're young as fk anyways.
you're killing it for the most part. everyone else fast 30-90days.
-everything will edge you closer towards the sunrise. towards the ocean.
-You will emerge a true man-beast, a beast of a man.

Disclaimer: This is NOT Medical Advice. Nor Legal Advice.

thanks, man! I believe when I hop off great things will slowly start to happen and if I need a few more var cycles im okay with that... hell I love this stuff so much already that even if I do become 100% in all aspects after this I would still cycle this stuff for the gainz haha

 

[Dhair]

well honestly not much remains. id like my beard to fill in and I still don't get spontaneous erections and my sex drive can be pretty high on var, but not quite a normal teenage or 20 year old high libido. hard to explain, but at times my mood and outlook on life and motivation feel 150% on var. so not a lot remain.
also I don't shoot several ropes when I cum yet. one shot and the rest oozes at least with masturbation.

sleep is 100% bowels 150% like holy actual shit haha
empathy is back a lot and looking forward to mundain things coming back a lot.

Wish I had your problems, lol.
I think it was worth experimenting with anavar. Just keep in mind that we all have bad days. To be honest, I don't even know what 100% is, but maybe I would know it if I felt it.

 

[MNK99]

Not to lecture you or anyone
But it takes A LOT of work and discipline to get to that point for most guys.

Wish I had your problems, lol.
I think it was worth experimenting with anavar. Just keep in mind that we all have bad days. To be honest, I don't even know what 100% is, but maybe I would know it if I felt it.

I feel same way about randro 4 Andro ostarine stims etc as Ihatefin does I'd use them and or test anyways and gh when cured... Other shyt too.

What I need to compete w a bunch of rich pretty boys....

 

[IHateFin]

Wish I had your problems, lol.
I think it was worth experimenting with anavar. Just keep in mind that we all have bad days. To be honest, I don't even know what 100% is, but maybe I would know it if I felt it.

haha hey it took a long time to get to a decent state and then this var was added. I was jerking chubs and jizzing water 4 years ago when this all started. its been one hell of a nasty ride.
this is the place to be if you are looking to make some good progress, my dude! its not a one size fits all, but I think we have some good protocols for decent improvements.

I feel ya man.. before fin a "bad day" is comparable to an amazing day with pfs haha I tend to forget what it was like to be 100% too and when improvements hit that I forgot I think "I totally forgot I use to feel like this" or "so that's what that feels like"...

 

[Dhair]

haha hey it took a long time to get to a decent state and then this var was added. I was jerking chubs and jizzing water 4 years ago when this all started. its been one hell of a nasty ride.
this is the place to be if you are looking to make some good progress, my dude! its not a one size fits all, but I think we have some good protocols for decent improvements.

I feel ya man.. before fin a "bad day" is comparable to an amazing day with pfs haha I tend to forget what it was like to be 100% too and when improvements hit that I forgot I think "I totally forgot I use to feel like this" or "so that's what that feels like"...

Yeah, it's really interesting when something works and some very specific thoughts and feelings come flooding back. Definitely a roller coaster ride. In PFS, everything is dulled and suppressed.

 

[TubZy]

Aren't we supposed to wait until after the cycle though depending on how u feel?

 

[Helen]

@IHateFin so today is the day you are getting off.


Beware that you might start sweating like crazy for may be 2-3 days or even a week after quiting var.

Var should have upregulated progesterone and thyroid, if it does what we want it to do.

So when you get off , you can have hot flashes, like during PMS))

 

[IHateFin]

@IHateFin so today is the day you are getting off.


Beware that you might start sweating like crazy for may be 2-3 days or even a week after quiting var.

Var should have upregulated progesterone and thyroid, if it does what we want it to do.

So when you get off , you can have hot flashes, like during PMS))

Today is dose 14 so after today I'm off.
Well I had a slight hot flash when trying to poo just now haha but I'll see what happens this weekend basically. Male PMS.. WOO!! Lol

 

[IHateFin]

update day 14 and final day:

today has been great mood and sex drive wise. I slept like a baby last night and have some hairloss sensations, but not much actual shed.
theres a girl at work I talked to and felt quite attracted to. fantasizing a lot at my desk about her haha but that primal drive and sexual frustration feeling that seems very familiar is very apparent today.
morning wood this morning was good. seems to have seriously stabilized over the course of the last 2 weeks and I hope the next two weeks off are even better and beyond.

@Helen what can I take after off var?
im not gunna take any herbs, but can I at least still take my bcomplex and b6?
how long do you think I should wait before the reintroduction of vitamins such as E and D; a few months?

 

[Grambo]

update day 14 and final day:

today has been great mood and sex drive wise. I slept like a baby last night and have some hairloss sensations, but not much actual shed.
theres a girl at work I talked to and felt quite attracted to. fantasizing a lot at my desk about her haha but that primal drive and sexual frustration feeling that seems very familiar is very apparent today.
morning wood this morning was good. seems to have seriously stabilized over the course of the last 2 weeks and I hope the next two weeks off are even better and beyond.

@Helen what can I take after off var?
im not gunna take any herbs, but can I at least still take my bcomplex and b6?
how long do you think I should wait before the reintroduction of vitamins such as E and D; a few months?

Fin, been following your trials. With the var, were the digestion/bile improvements intermittent, or a reliable consistent benefit? Either way, this intrigues me. Low dose var for life? LDV?

Best of luck with the snap back in the following weeks man. I'll be tuned in.

 

[IHateFin]

Fin, been following your trials. With the var, were the digestion/bile improvements intermittent, or a reliable consistent benefit? Either way, this intrigues me. Low dose var for life? LDV?

Best of luck with the snap back in the following weeks man. I'll be tuned in.

hey man! yeah, the digestion benefit was immediate and very very consistent through out.. bare in mind I was fairly regular before, but this was like a healthy digestion I never imagined possible haha

bro honestly im game to be on for life haha this plus 150 test cyp should mask all symptoms I dunno, but yeah I hope this is a great snap back! ill be posting as I see notable changes.

 

[Grambo]

hey man! yeah, the digestion benefit was immediate and very very consistent through out.. bare in mind I was fairly regular before, but this was like a healthy digestion I never imagined possible haha

bro honestly im game to be on for life haha this plus 150 test cyp should mask all symptoms I dunno, but yeah I hope this is a great snap back! ill be posting as I see notable changes.

What do you think is happening? I remember reading about people on randro saying they went from zero bile flow to full pretty quick. Then it eventually wore off once they got off cycle. I haven't been able to replicate that with any long term consistency.

150? Man, I think @Helen is right on the money with low dose, 2-5mg test base[no ester] per day + a little prog everyday. I plan on trying this in the future regardless, once I can maintain a decent baseline.

 

[brix]

What do you think is happening? I remember reading about people on randro saying they went from zero bile flow to full pretty quick. Then it eventually wore off once they got off cycle. I haven't been able to replicate that with any long term consistency.

150? Man, I think @Helen is right on the money with low dose, 2-5mg test base[no ester] per day + a little prog everyday. I plan on trying this in the future regardless, once I can maintain a decent baseline.

I want to try low dose test in dmso topically. Don’t know how to go about it. Could even do test and prog in same bottle. Would be interesting.

 

[Grambo]

I want to try low dose test in dmso topically. Don’t know how to go about it. Could even do test and prog in same bottle. Would be interesting.

Easy peasy. That's how I've done it. Just get medical grade DMSO[ebay/amazon], mix it at .5 - 1mg a drop. I wouldn't combine it with prog in the same bottle, then you can't play with dosages.

My prog comes in MCT oil anyway.

 

[cappello7]

Easy peasy. That's how I've done it. Just get medical grade DMSO[ebay/amazon], mix it at .5 - 1mg a drop. I wouldn't combine it with prog in the same bottle, then you can't play with dosages.

My prog comes in MCT oil anyway.

How have your results been with test and prog? Any specific improvement of symptoms?

 

[Grambo]

How have your results been with test and prog? Any specific improvement of symptoms?

Haven't tried it with prog yet. That is a new development. Haven't messed with hormones in a couple years. I was saying, I plan to try that combo in the future, after TEI, if I can establish a decent baseline.

 

[Grambo]

New Way to Use Testosterone - Roger Mason

This article is the first place I read about low dose topical/sublingual test 5 years ago. Little did I know at the time, potassium wasting/alkalosis was the reason it made me worse. Excited to try it again in the future.

Perfectly legal too

 

[IHateFin]

What do you think is happening? I remember reading about people on randro saying they went from zero bile flow to full pretty quick. Then it eventually wore off once they got off cycle. I haven't been able to replicate that with any long term consistency.

150? Man, I think @Helen is right on the money with low dose, 2-5mg test base[no ester] per day + a little prog everyday. I plan on trying this in the future regardless, once I can maintain a decent baseline.

that dose might be better. I like an ester tho so for me I would do like test propionate (shortest ester) and do like 20mg EOD with anavar or prog.

but my theory is its messing with potassium which is adjusting progesterone receptors which is messing with 5 alpha and beta reductase . I also know for a fact and have posted studies on it, but it is blocking cortisol and making me more sensitive to it. I can feel it and I felt it strong in the beginning.

Oxandrolone blocks glucocorticoid signaling in an androgen receptor-dependent manner. - PubMed - NCBI

I think it is displacing dht from androgen receptors with this weaker dht thus changing the regulation of the receptor maybe even down regulating it. since its dht but weaker it will bind strongly to androgen receptor over test but not activate it as strong as actual dht maybe a partial agonist I dunno.

 

[IHateFin]

I want to try low dose test in dmso topically. Don’t know how to go about it. Could even do test and prog in same bottle. Would be interesting.

test in dmso will convert heavily to dht tho just keep that in mind. 5 alpha reductase hangs out under the skin

 

[Grambo]

that dose might be better. I like an ester tho so for me I would do like test propionate (shortest ester) and do like 20mg EOD with anavar or prog.

but my theory is its messing with potassium which is adjusting progesterone receptors which is messing with 5 alpha and beta reductase . I also know for a fact and have posted studies on it, but it is blocking cortisol and making me more sensitive to it. I can feel it and I felt it strong in the beginning.

Oxandrolone blocks glucocorticoid signaling in an androgen receptor-dependent manner. - PubMed - NCBI

I think it is displacing dht from androgen receptors with this weaker dht thus changing the regulation of the receptor maybe even down regulating it. since its dht but weaker it will bind strongly to androgen receptor over test but not activate it as strong as actual dht maybe a partial agonist I dunno.

Really is an amazing compound. One of the only prescribe-able orals in the US. In January, I was getting everything together for a pitch to my doctor, to get an oxand script. Then I looked at US pharmacy prices. Holy shit! Never seen something that expensive.