Jack17 log ( Ella/RU/Progesterone and Anavar)

MNK99

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That's why I only ever hook up... AND plan to get married a bit later, with more cash, in case shyt goes wrong - not health wise, but distraction wise.
NF 200 d maybe normal emotions and can trust the rite people, and love and all that bs.
 
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Update.
6 days after DM. No significant improvement in libido. Plan now is repeat dose in 1-2 weeks. I read somewhere that someone seemed to improve on progesterone after DM. Since progesterone protocol helped in past started it again yesterday. It’s hard to have patience, but this morning had reasonable MW. Had that first 2 days after DM then nothing.
 

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Update:
Felt down/ depressed Sunday ( 8 days from Dexa) but only that day and better by end of day. I know my trial with DM is not clean but I have been having lower libido for past several weeks and this is very concerning given this causes so many bad fights with my wife. With that said I restarted Progesterone a few days ago because I have had a really great response to this in the past. I think over time Progesterone dose decrease testosterone. I think that may be why in May I felt is was no longer helping so I stopped everything and about 6 days felt almost cured and that lasted almost 2 months. Anyway, I found a post regarding recoveries and recoveries with Progesterone. It seemed that the people that recovered using progesterone were also taking Tribulus. I had already bought this but had never started taking it. I restarted progesterone 4 days ago and started Tribulus twice daily yesterday. I started feeling better yesterday. Libido finally going back up. Strong MW this morning. I'm not positive it's the progesterone and Trib combo or related to recent DM ( planning to do high dose DM once every 2-4 weeks thinking this may help reset something) Today I'd say I am about 80% regarding ED and Libido.
 

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Update:
Felt down/ depressed Sunday ( 8 days from Dexa) but only that day and better by end of day. I know my trial with DM is not clean but I have been having lower libido for past several weeks and this is very concerning given this causes so many bad fights with my wife. With that said I restarted Progesterone a few days ago because I have had a really great response to this in the past. I think over time Progesterone dose decrease testosterone. I think that may be why in May I felt is was no longer helping so I stopped everything and about 6 days felt almost cured and that lasted almost 2 months. Anyway, I found a post regarding recoveries and recoveries with Progesterone. It seemed that the people that recovered using progesterone were also taking Tribulus. I had already bought this but had never started taking it. I restarted progesterone 4 days ago and started Tribulus twice daily yesterday. I started feeling better yesterday. Libido finally going back up. Strong MW this morning. I'm not positive it's the progesterone and Trib combo or related to recent DM ( planning to do high dose DM once every 2-4 weeks thinking this may help reset something) Today I'd say I am about 80% regarding ED and Libido.


As I said testosterone with progesterone. as a stilt.

you are funny. you just go back to progesterone after every experiment you take.)) and you are not sure where the libido comes from , when progesterone does this for you every single time.

anavar, boom progesterone, Dm boom progesterone )) Ru boom progesterone

these things all kill progesterone. so obviously taking progesterone raises it back up.



I like the idea of DM cycling


Sorry that your wife bugs you during experiments, It is understandable
 
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I know! Hard to stay focused on this. I start to feel stressed out when I have no libido and and I know this will cause such problems at home, if you know what I mean. What do you think about Tribulus?? Would that be similar to benefit from a testosterone progesterone regimen? Is that why you said : "As I said testosterone with progesterone. as a stilt." BTW what does 'stilt" mean?
 

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I know! Hard to stay focused on this. I start to feel stressed out when I have no libido and and I know this will cause such problems at home, if you know what I mean. What do you think about Tribulus?? Would that be similar to benefit from a testosterone progesterone regimen? Is that why you said : "As I said testosterone with progesterone. as a stilt." BTW what does 'stilt" mean?

yeah, it is similar to test with progest

I meant that it should get rid of symptoms. it is possible that it could even cure this

basically both GR and AR could be upregulated, So if you give just progesterone, then it will up the AR , and if you give just test, it will up GR.
And if you give both , it will downregulate both at the same time.
 
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yeah, it is similar to test with progest

I meant that it should get rid of symptoms. it is possible that it could even cure this

basically both GR and AR could be upregulated, So if you give just progesterone, then it will up the AR , and if you give just test, it will up GR.
And if you give both , it will downregulate both at the same time.
How is the mechanism of tribulus the same as prog + test?
Tribulus has been tried alot so it kinda surprises me.
 

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How is the mechanism of tribulus the same as prog + test?
Tribulus has been tried alot so it kinda surprises me.


Progesterone with testosterone. or testosterone boosters. same thing.


Plus in his case just progesterone alone does exactly the same thing. as we have seen many times in his case, until it tanks testosterone too low. which in his case does not happen right away

Everytime he took progesterone previously he got these results.

DM inhibits LH. SO after dexa, he could have the whole axis shut down.SO obviously you feel better when you take test, test booster, and progesterone
 
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I agree...Thanks! I thought if DM supressed LH that might trigger/ rebound/ reset something. Anyway, feeling much better now. I'll keep cycling the above and update. I plan do this prog/ trib regimen for 7-10 days then off for a week and then restart 7-10 days. Will work in DM some how. I am just experimenting with it.
BTW I think progesterone regimen fixed a lot of my mental side effects months ago. Now I just have to fix the libido/ ED issue. And this was essentially 90-100% better May and June.
 

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Update:
Felt down/ depressed Sunday ( 8 days from Dexa) but only that day and better by end of day. I know my trial with DM is not clean but I have been having lower libido for past several weeks and this is very concerning given this causes so many bad fights with my wife. With that said I restarted Progesterone a few days ago because I have had a really great response to this in the past. I think over time Progesterone dose decrease testosterone. I think that may be why in May I felt is was no longer helping so I stopped everything and about 6 days felt almost cured and that lasted almost 2 months. Anyway, I found a post regarding recoveries and recoveries with Progesterone. It seemed that the people that recovered using progesterone were also taking Tribulus. I had already bought this but had never started taking it. I restarted progesterone 4 days ago and started Tribulus twice daily yesterday. I started feeling better yesterday. Libido finally going back up. Strong MW this morning. I'm not positive it's the progesterone and Trib combo or related to recent DM ( planning to do high dose DM once every 2-4 weeks thinking this may help reset something) Today I'd say I am about 80% regarding ED and Libido.
did you feel lowered libido after DM?
 

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Felt Initially maybe slightly higher after DM for a day but then lower for about 5-6 days.
Stopped progesterone last Sunday ( 4 days ago ) and have been continuing Tribulus 2-3 times a day and having feeling good. Restated progesterone today.