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I was reading some old threads in the other PFS forums and went through user "JustQuitDut" posts. He experimented with T and other hormones, and claimed to have cured others with his protocol. However by "cured" he doesnt mean he could stop taking things, he has to always be on this protocol. His theory is based on insufficient neurosteriods in the brain due to low 5AR activity. After a few years of experimenting, he landed on a protocol that essentially consists of low-dose T, NatureThyroid (thyroid hormones supplement), and cabergoline (lowers prolactin). Here is his last post on SolvePFS (Feb 2017):
It sounds interesting. Has anyone heard from JQD since? Has anyone tried anything similar?
Hi friends, it has been a long time, I have been meaning to come here and post forever, but I keep putting it off.
So basically, as you know, I tried EVERYTHING to get better, I took one person from the forums and had them do everything I did, and they also recovered (MCI_BOF), he did everything I did and he is as far as I know about 90-100%.
I am recovered in every way except when I get to about 180LBS of muscle I start to carry water, I found a way around that with using a diuretic pill, very very low dose once every 2 weeks. My muscles aren't as hard as before PFS, but have improved a lot, I am in what people would call "JACKED" shape. Girls say I have an amazing body etc etc to put it into perspective.
Here is what I finally ended up on being the best protocol
1 grains of NatureThroid once a day
0.5mg of Dostinex every 3 days
50mg of testosterone enanthate every 3 days
I am also on an HGH peptide protocol, but it is confusing for you guys who aren't versed in it, and it isn't necessary to get better, but I have posted my HGH protocol here before, it is traditional anti aging HGH therapy.
I also used 1 pump of Pregnenolone cream a few months back, just one pump seemed to boost me to even more recovery. The oral pills never did anything, the cream did..
I don't need an AI on this protocol, but I recommend 12.5mg of Aromasin once every week if needed, see if it makes you tired, if it does, you don't need it.
I weight train daily and eat a paleo diet, but I don't think that has too much to do with it, but maybe..
Basically nothing works right without NatureThroid, once you are on that everything else will work, I devised 50mg of test enanthat every 3 days as I found a way to keep levels low enough for us to respond and not create too much estrogen. This test protocol is extremely androgenic, I experimented with IHatePropecia now for over 2 years together. We tried everything, he is on a similar protocol as me, but he isn't on dostinex, and he is on test prop instead.
I also experienced with 5a-DHP which caused a lot of PFS sides for both IHP and I, but later we recovered from the sides and our response to test was enhanced, we are still experimenting with that metabolite. So if I could go back in time and start from square one with PFS, after all I did and all I learned, I would go on the exact protocol I am on now hands down. It is designed to let test build up slowly and become steady state within 2 weeks, you won't need an AI on it.
Also I found 75mg of testosterone enanthate every 4 days to work real well, and 150mg of test enanthate every 7 days (not as good as the 50/3 and 75/4 protocols). I had a duty to the community to post this, I have girls I have been dating for a while, I am extremely sexually active, libido is 150%, stamina, muscles, mood, energy all good. I make girls sore, they say I have more stamina than other guys, my penis fully recovered in size and hardness etc..
So while there are guys here who discredit me, keep in mind that they are still on this forum trying herbs and "natural" stuff, no libido, no girlfriends, nothing but bitterness. They haven't caused another member to recover following their protocols, and everyone here can ask MCI how he is doing. I am not here to get into any debates, just post what worked for me and basically having PFS was worse than death, so I am glad to be alive again.
I will try to come back in the future and respond to questions, but I have no doubt if you go on my protocol after a few months you will do really well. As for corticosteroids, i don't know if they played a role in my recovery, but if I had it to do over again, I would have tried it without them and just used NDT, but they did help MCI and I. The reason I wouldn't use them again is because they caused me to get bad acne.
Hope all my friends are doing well here, especially Eden, glad to see this forum has grown so much from just 4 people when I first came and built it up! Unlike CDNuts, I am not trying to capitalize off of what worked for me, I do not charge people money to help them, I am glad to share my knowledge for free. Anyone who charges for help with PFS you should be weary of, especially when their protocol has been duplicated 1000X with not one instance of success ever.
Hang in there everyone, I thought my situation was hopeless too, but it was not, however, if I quit NDT (Naturethroid), i go backwards a lot, same with test.
It sounds interesting. Has anyone heard from JQD since? Has anyone tried anything similar?