Ketogenic diet

Ewelina

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Yes, this is a shame not to be able to eat some fruit. I have problems with acids now and most fruits are a bit too acidic so can’t eat them. Coconut oil is too stimulating for me now. If I eat to much I get digestive problems. I used to eat a lot of it before my high sugar diet but now butter and ghee is safer for me.
 

Canari

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What do you mean by stimulating, for coconut oil?
I guess you eat starch as a safer carb? Strange, I have a life long hate of acid taste, that I try to overcome. I think it comes from the state of the stomach??? Also green fruits have starch instead of sugar, so need to be cooked. So maybe it is not the acid?

I did a good liver cure by drinking every morning orange juice with olive oil.... Gall bladder pain disappeared with no liver flush. That is how I checked out that olive oil is a very useful fat! I think it helps liver more than butter. Also, we should use virgin oil with the strongest taste, because the sharp taste indicates the amount of anti-oxidants.

Also, producing bile and flushing it with olive oil is a help for hormone cleaning and elimination by the liver
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I also use a lot of black olives, mediterranean style.
Then home made mayo is a must for me to be able to increase fat intake!

Then I never use any vegetable oil or butter, only in nut form, because it is already emulsified and they are intended to be eaten like this, to be more digestible. I don't know if you feel the difference between a nut and its butter?
 

Ewelina

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When I eat a lot of CO I get higher heart rate, get hotter (my temperature is already hot as it’s on average above 37.2 C) and feel restless and anxious. If I eat it in the evening I risk a sleepless night.
 

Canari

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Ewelina post_id=6141 time=1512598097 user_id=1357 said:
When I eat a lot of CO I get higher heart rate, get hotter (my temperature is already hot as it’s on average above 37.2 C) and feel restless and anxious. If I eat it in the evening I risk a sleepless night.

I will do an experiment to check out if I have this effect. maybe this is part of getting better, when I dropped CO!
When I had problems for sleeping, i did notice a quite high temp in the evening, even 37º3C....
Well, also the problem of getting up to pee, this probably from taking progesterone.
 

Ewelina

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It might be bc CO supposedly increases metabolism. I don’t know if that’s the case but if it is so CO might increase CO2 production and then body needs to get rid of it by increasing respiration. Unfortunately I trained myself not to breath and now I have to make a conscious effort to do so otherwise I get symptoms of over acidity.
 

papaya

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http://drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Ketogenic_diet_-_the_practical_details

Are we in keto when we fast?


My real question is how to digest all that fat!
i did the fat fast, & the answer to your question is that i think it goes right through you. i tried it because it's hard for me to lose weight unless i eat nothing & i'm still taking thyroid so i don't know if complete fasting is a good idea, & i don't have a lot of will power. anyway, it worked, i lost weight fast but felt beyond terrible
 

Canari

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i think it goes right through you
If you ate only fat, then it acted more as a laxative didn't it? How long did you do it and did you stay at the weight you could get? If weight comes from hypo, then it is difficult to loose weight without stressing the organism indeed... Have you done hair test or want to?

It is good if we can manage to know for which person keto diet is useful.
 

papaya

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it did. i did it for 4 days. i could have gone longer but i went out of town i only would've used cream in my coffee because i was so nauseous & the thought of eating any more fat was just impossible. i felt so achy & awful, but the weight melted off. i lost weight faster than eating nothing which is what i normally have to do because even if i eat 400 calories of healthy food i won't lose weight. haven't done a hair test but i will eventually.
 

Legna88

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What do you mean by stimulating, for coconut oil?
I guess you eat starch as a safer carb? Strange, I have a life long hate of acid taste, that I try to overcome. I think it comes from the state of the stomach??? Also green fruits have starch instead of sugar, so need to be cooked. So maybe it is not the acid?

I did a good liver cure by drinking every morning orange juice with olive oil.... Gall bladder pain disappeared with no liver flush. That is how I checked out that olive oil is a very useful fat! I think it helps liver more than butter. Also, we should use virgin oil with the strongest taste, because the sharp taste indicates the amount of anti-oxidants.

Also, producing bile and flushing it with olive oil is a help for hormone cleaning and elimination by the liver
.
I also use a lot of black olives, mediterranean style.
Then home made mayo is a must for me to be able to increase fat intake!

Then I never use any vegetable oil or butter, only in nut form, because it is already emulsified and they are intended to be eaten like this, to be more digestible. I don't know if you feel the difference between a nut and its butter?

@Canari which brand(s) of olive oil do you use?
 

Canari

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@Canari which brand(s) of olive oil do you use?
Are you spanish? I think this is very local.
I use any cheapest 5 liters bottle from the health food store! Organic and virgen cold pressed.
If I could choose from taste, i would use the one with the strongest taste, to get as much oleuropein as possible from it, though I get it from chewing olive leaves....