Lifting potassium levels log

[opiath]

If you are the opposite case (alkalosis with low CO2) taking vitamin K would be very bad idea.

 

[supernature]

@Nina
I could be wrong here but it sounds to me like you have a vitamin K deficiency.
You say you get bruises easily and you have a narrow lower jaw which are pretty obvious symptoms.

What vitamin K does in the body is carboxylation.
This is the process of integrating CO2 into proteins in order to build bones and coagulate blood.
One of the proteins made by vitamin K is osteocalcin. It needs ionized calcium also.
Ionized calcium you get when you have high CO2.
Osteocalcin not only builds bone but also triggers insulin release from the pancreas.

So your case might look like this:
Vitamin K deficiency -> low insulin -> low G6PD -> low NADPH -> low cortisol and estrogen -> high adrenaline sensitivity.

Or maybe I am wrong and this is not your case at all.
You need to know for sure if you have high CO2 or low.

If you are the opposite case (alkalosis with low CO2) taking vitamin K would be very bad idea.

Low or high vit K, what is it, make up your mind already, people are eating vit K and they are dying while you are speculating with lows and highs.

Around 50 posts since 2017 till 2019 and you are speculating already or you know more than you present in here and you suppress to share your knowledge. What is this ?

 

[Nina]

@Helen is it possible to tell by someones symptoms if they are too catabolic/too anabolic?

 

[Nina]

@Nina
I could be wrong here but it sounds to me like you have a vitamin K deficiency.
You say you get bruises easily and you have a narrow lower jaw which are pretty obvious symptoms.

What vitamin K does in the body is carboxylation.
This is the process of integrating CO2 into proteins in order to build bones and coagulate blood.
One of the proteins made by vitamin K is osteocalcin. It needs ionized calcium also.
Ionized calcium you get when you have high CO2.
Osteocalcin not only builds bone but also triggers insulin release from the pancreas.

So your case might look like this:
Vitamin K deficiency -> low insulin -> low G6PD -> low NADPH -> low cortisol and estrogen -> high adrenaline sensitivity.

Or maybe I am wrong and this is not your case at all.
You need to know for sure if you have high CO2 or low.

I appreciate the fact that you're trynna help figure out my situation. I thought my CO2 was high at first but i am not so sure because i feel better when i increase CO2 levels (when i relax more, eat more food, drink carbonated water etc). When i take stimulants, everything tends to get worse, i think they increase breathing drive even more thus maybe i am in alkalosis from hyperventilation i dont know. I do know however that i am losing potassium for some reason, maybe because of my cortisol levels. Something is wasting it and i can't figure out why.

I do tend to bruise easily, which gets worse during PMS time (premenstrual syndrome ). I think high progesterone has something to do with it, not sure what though.

I have noticed that the higher my progesterone levels, the worse i feel. The lower my progesterone levels, the better i feel. I have tried increasing progesterone in the past (progesterone cream, zinc, vitamin b6, stimulants which increase adrenaline and thus raise progesterone) and i feel a lot worse when i do that.

 

[Canari]

If you are the opposite case (alkalosis with low CO2).

How do you know without hair test?
And even with the hair test, how do we know if acidosis and alkalosis states are coming from the breathing and the O2 and CO2 business there, or if it comes from the kidneys and when we loose / retain?

I never could figure out this even with what Matty said!

About vitamine K: take into account - I know it because my dad is on anti-vit.K - that some people may have a genetic problem with making too much blood clotting. My father used to have too much coagulation because of his genetics. He needed to fluidify his blood.

 

[Nina]

How do you know without hair test?
And even with the hair test, how do we know if acidosis and alkalosis states are coming from the breathing and the O2 and CO2 business there, or if it comes from the kidneys and when we loose / retain?

I never could figure out this even with what Matty said!

About vitamine K: take into account - I know it because my dad is on anti-vit.K - that some people may have a genetic problem with making too much blood clotting. My father used to have too much coagulation because of his genetics. He needed to fluidify his blood.

I think you can tell by someones health/lifestyle if they have high or low CO2.

Example: high CO2
Your average overweight 35-50 year old office worker, doesn't workout, drives car everywhere, eats an average (shit) diet. Probably high CO2.

Example: Low CO2
20 year old college girl/guy, works out multiple times a week, walks most of the time, has a healthy bodyweight, eats a healthy diet. Is more active in general.

I don't think it would be hard to tell if someone is more likely to have high or low CO2. Look at their lifestyle, weight, health.

 

[opiath]

I wouldn't say physical activity correlates with ventilation unless you force yourself to breath out.
If your acetylcholine is high and it is inhibiting your autonomic breathing drive, CO2 levels will go up with exercise not down.
When I eat a lot of pineapple the manganese stops acetylcholine breakdown and if I go biking at the same time I notice that I would mostly breath in without breathing out.
The more I spin the more my leg muscles start burning with acidity until the body normalizes the manganese.

 

[Seekinghealth]

@Nina
I could be wrong here but it sounds to me like you have a vitamin K deficiency.
You say you get bruises easily and you have a narrow lower jaw which are pretty obvious symptoms.

What vitamin K does in the body is carboxylation.
This is the process of integrating CO2 into proteins in order to build bones and coagulate blood.
One of the proteins made by vitamin K is osteocalcin. It needs ionized calcium also.
Ionized calcium you get when you have high CO2.
Osteocalcin not only builds bone but also triggers insulin release from the pancreas.

So your case might look like this:
Vitamin K deficiency -> low insulin -> low G6PD -> low NADPH -> low cortisol and estrogen -> high adrenaline sensitivity.

Or maybe I am wrong and this is not your case at all.
You need to know for sure if you have high CO2 or low.

Interesting post thanks! This has crossed my mind alot.
Vitamin-K defeciency check.
High CO2 check.

Although I am wasting lots of potassium and phosphorus in the urine (Alkaline) myself.
Sorry to Hijack your thread with this post, Nina. But your log and this comment is intruiging.

 

[Nina]

After quitting the potassium and magnesium 2 days ago i feel better now. I got the electric shock type feeling many people on the forum talked about before, like PSSD people got on the hydrogen water im pretty sure @barbaar i couldn't sleep at all and would wake up in panic with adrenaline rushing through me. I think in the end my CO2 is high after all.

I still have background adrenaline feeling currently, can't relax and am pretty jumpy and i feel like i can hear/smell/see 10 times better for some reason lmao. My reaction time while playing some videogames with my brother was insane too i never played that good in my life feels like high dose amphetamines. Short tempered tho and quickly irritated when interupted by something

I am gonna try take niacin (flush kind) tonight to hopefully lower adrenaline a little @Helen i read niacin lowers adrenaline because it inhibits methylation correct me if im wrong. I have taken it before and it always made me very relaxed but red and itchy as hell too on high dose aha.

 

[barbaar]

After quitting the potassium and magnesium 2 days ago i feel better now. I got the electric shock type feeling many people on the forum talked about before, like PSSD people got on the hydrogen water im pretty sure @barbaar i couldn't sleep at all and would wake up in panic with adrenaline rushing through me. I think in the end my CO2 is high after all.

I still have background adrenaline feeling currently, can't relax and am pretty jumpy and i feel like i can hear/smell/see 10 times better for some reason lmao. My reaction time while playing some videogames with my brother was insane too i never played that good in my life feels like high dose amphetamines. Short tempered tho and quickly irritated when interupted by something

I am gonna try take niacin (flush kind) tonight to hopefully lower adrenaline a little @Helen i read niacin lowers adrenaline because it inhibits methylation correct me if im wrong. I have taken it before and it always made me very relaxed but red and itchy as hell too on high dose aha.

Did you feel like you were barely breathing too?

Niacin helps me relax but makes me feel more numb for a while after. But maybe that's not a problem for you.

 

[Nina]

Did you feel like you were barely breathing too?

Niacin helps me relax but makes me feel more numb for a while after. But maybe that's not a problem for you.

I was holding my breath for no reason like, i had to remember to breathe is what it felt like

 

[barbaar]

I was holding my breath for no reason like, i had to remember to breathe is what it felt like

Crazy, I had the exact same thing.

 

[Nina]

Crazy, I had the exact same thing.

Yeah just feels 'off'. Any way to calm it down right now or just wait it out? I dont have the niacin flush type unfortunately.

 

[barbaar]

Yeah just feels 'off'. Any way to calm it down right now or just wait it out? I dont have the niacin flush type unfortunately.

I never figured out a way to calm it down, just gotta wait it out I think. For me it also correlates with "outside" stress so if you can reduce that that might be helpful.

 

[Nina]

I never figured out a way to calm it down, just gotta wait it out I think. For me it also correlates with "outside" stress so if you can reduce that that might be helpful.

Stressed out bc our women are playing tonight ha

 

[Canari]

That's not adrenaline reaction, that is activation of the sympathetic nervous system! Read about it if you do not believe me!
Then you do not mind if your body makes adrenaline or cortisol or other of the 300 hormones we have!
You mind about the result and calming it!
outside stress is the trigger, because the problema is to be able to increase the INTENSITY of what we can stand.

I said it about ejaculation, you do so when you cannot stand the intensity any further. It is a desync of the NS.

Apart from taking supp, you do not find how to calm it because you do not learn about it. It is very possible to calm it, but it is like a tree still moving after the wind stopped: it takes a bit of time and never stops all at once. And we cannot control this with the head, we can act only indirectly, like with breathing, cold and hot exposure, human or animal support…

And it is like diet, never do one, but change your view and introduce it into your life forever. Learn to stop and orient around you with your 5 senses, this is the first step. When stressed, we even do not hear birds singing anymore!

 

[Nina]

Feeling a bit better today, have been eating a high carb diet to hopefully surpress adrenaline a little. Feel calm and lethargic because of the carbs but i don't feel overly alert and stressed out anymore due to the high adrenaline levels.

If i had to choose i'd pick the adrenaline state tho, i had crazy energy and it felt like my brain worked really fast. I processed everything quickly & easily. However i'm sure it would eventually burn me out too. Taking it easy this weekend.

 

[Nina]

That's not adrenaline reaction, that is activation of the sympathetic nervous system! Read about it if you do not believe me!
Then you do not mind if your body makes adrenaline or cortisol or other of the 300 hormones we have!
You mind about the result and calming it!
outside stress is the trigger, because the problema is to be able to increase the INTENSITY of what we can stand.

I said it about ejaculation, you do so when you cannot stand the intensity any further. It is a desync of the NS.

Apart from taking supp, you do not find how to calm it because you do not learn about it. It is very possible to calm it, but it is like a tree still moving after the wind stopped: it takes a bit of time and never stops all at once. And we cannot control this with the head, we can act only indirectly, like with breathing, cold and hot exposure, human or animal support…

And it is like diet, never do one, but change your view and introduce it into your life forever. Learn to stop and orient around you with your 5 senses, this is the first step. When stressed, we even do not hear birds singing anymore!

Thanks Canari, any good sources to learn more about this?

 

[Canari]

@Nina if you are on Facebook send me a PM...
There can be good stuffs in the vagus nerve stimulation & repair
There are other groups and then the website of Irene Lyon and her you tube videos.
Same with organic intelligence but a bit less didactic maybe…

There are courses but expensive and I am trying to organize something that Will be affordable. Actually you can learn about marketing and advertizing and any manipulation, lol they are based on this knowledge of how we work inside! Psychotherapist have no training in it and doctors either! I have started to suspect that no effort are made in this direction so that we do not see when we are manipulated!

 

[Canari]

I have talked about Irene Lyon, she has good easy videos and is didactic. I like Steve Hoskinson from organic intelligence but he might be more "university teacher" type, but he has good meditations.
Then I have made quite a few posts with explanations and sources! There might be a place of the forum about mental health, nerves and sleep as far as I remember?

About what I have written above or in any other thread, I feel ok to explain more about anything that is not clear. It becomes so easy when you have learned it that it is not easy to explain! Also because among our common points, we have differences, and it means that it is necessary to explain it differently to different persons. Some people have a good contact with their inner sensations in the body and some cannot put their attention there. Some people are anxious with panic attacks which are sympathetic arousal, while others cannot even understand it happens, because they are depressed.

For exampe I thought I was in a nice calm sympathetic state, but actually it came from a lot of freeze, so for me it was necessary to understand this first, so that I could let emerge what I was keeping frozen.

So all the theory has to be linked to what we feel, or else it is not helpful and you understand better by feeling it. If you can already start to notice when you sigh or yawn, which are signs of relax to parasympathetic, it is already helpful. Usually we need to ask somebody to make us notice it. Then we start to say "now that you tell me yes I remember". But if they tell you after 2 mns, you Will likely not remember at all!

You can find informations about stimulation of the vagus nerve. They are just too much in duality about one is good and one is bad, but you can learn a bit. I am in a FB group about this and I keep correcting people about this mistake so that they learn. If you are in FB, you can send me a PM...