Aleksandr
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My health in general has been pretty good, but I haven't been supplementing or taking the things that helped balance my hair test in the past (Ca, Mg, K2 and D3).
Pretty good in that i've done a "phenoage" test recently and got 19.56, at 33.
Anyway, my knee pain issue: Initially slipped playing tennis, thought it was just a cramp in my leg, and kept playing.
Didn't go away, had an MRI, it showed a small but full-thickness tear.
Kept off my knee for a long time of no sport, but whenever I tried to return my knees hurt like crazy from any sort of minimal impact.
Did physio, saw two different people. Both times my muscles get stronger, but as soon as I returned to any impact I got the same pain.
I also didn't suspect I had knee alignment issues, as I've never had issues with my knees before.
My good knee started hurting. Went and got a 2nd MRI for injured knee, and one for the good knee.
2nd MRI says its only a partial thickness tear now, so it seems some healing occurred which i was initially told wouldn't be possible. Great, except the pain is still the same.
Good knee is 100% pristine on the MRI, despite the pain.
Saw two surgeons about the bad knee, one of them said he's 95% certain the pain i feel has nothing to do with the tear - the knee is otherwise pristine and they refuse to operate.
Recommended physio and seeing a sports physician (who does things like PRP). At this point i've already had 5 prolotherapy shots to this knee, which is essentially a very similar thing.
GP said its basically the cheap version but if that doesnt help then PRP wont.
I've even tried running at the park on grass in a sort of "retraining impact tolerance": 10 seconds run, 50 seconds walk, x10, and after two weeks of that my knees got worse and worse and i had to stop.
TLDR; had knee pain the last 2.5 years.
What do I think is the cause?
I think it could be either two things:
1. The house i'm living in. Maybe i need to get a tin foil hat, but there's just something about the whole thing. My issues started shortly after I moved in here. And maybe, possibly, they get a bit better when I leave on holiday. For reference, i went on a 6 week holiday at one point and walked between 5k and 25k steps every day and I was OK. At the moment I can't walk 3k every day.
I don't know what it is about the house. Its an old dusty AF house. It could be the water pipes leaching something into the water (although I buy my water and have done for awhile now). It could be radiation (i sit near the power meter for the house). It could be something i'm not thinking about. I've just stayed here 3+ years because its been cheap rent. Anyway, i'm moving at the end of the year in Dec so we'll see if I get better then.
2. I haven't been taking the supplements I previously took that helped me. I've now ordered them after a chat with chatGPT. I've got an issue with all dairy (I get sebaceous cysts that need to be cut out of my skin), even low fat, even hard cheese so my calcium intake has always been low. It mentioned the CCZ - calcified cartilage zone, which is a thin layer between the bone and the articular cartilage (i had the tear in the articular cartilage) that can cause impact pain if not healthy.
It might even be something else these supplements resolve, maybe they just slow me down enough to get me to a better state where my body can properly function.
I was also taking DIM 500mg a day for maybe 2 months, i'll stop this as apparently suppressing estrogen too low can cause joint pain too.
Anyway, i've just ordered them, they arrive in about 2 weeks. I've got 3 months worth, I will re-assess after that
So I'll know if the supplements have helped by early Oct 2025.
The full stack looks like this:
- collagen peptides 10g in orange juice (30min before exercise - note i've been on this for years now, it hasn't resolved my issues)
- calcium citrate 500mg + d3 cholecalciferol 2000 IU + k2 mk-7 200mcg + 3mg boron (with lunch - these have helped balance me in the past)
- magnesium glycinate 400mg + glycine 10g (after dinner)
Baseline as at 20 June 2025:
- knees in pain when trying to walk 3k steps every day
- knees uncomfortable when sleeping and sitting
Goals:
1. Increase tolerable daily walking to 10k steps daily
2. Complete the "c25k" i.e. be able to run 5km
3. Return to tennis
Wish me luck! This has been driving me crazy, i'm an active person and not having tennis has been depressing, and now I can't even go for daily walks!
Pretty good in that i've done a "phenoage" test recently and got 19.56, at 33.
Anyway, my knee pain issue: Initially slipped playing tennis, thought it was just a cramp in my leg, and kept playing.
Didn't go away, had an MRI, it showed a small but full-thickness tear.
Kept off my knee for a long time of no sport, but whenever I tried to return my knees hurt like crazy from any sort of minimal impact.
Did physio, saw two different people. Both times my muscles get stronger, but as soon as I returned to any impact I got the same pain.
I also didn't suspect I had knee alignment issues, as I've never had issues with my knees before.
My good knee started hurting. Went and got a 2nd MRI for injured knee, and one for the good knee.
2nd MRI says its only a partial thickness tear now, so it seems some healing occurred which i was initially told wouldn't be possible. Great, except the pain is still the same.
Good knee is 100% pristine on the MRI, despite the pain.
Saw two surgeons about the bad knee, one of them said he's 95% certain the pain i feel has nothing to do with the tear - the knee is otherwise pristine and they refuse to operate.
Recommended physio and seeing a sports physician (who does things like PRP). At this point i've already had 5 prolotherapy shots to this knee, which is essentially a very similar thing.
GP said its basically the cheap version but if that doesnt help then PRP wont.
I've even tried running at the park on grass in a sort of "retraining impact tolerance": 10 seconds run, 50 seconds walk, x10, and after two weeks of that my knees got worse and worse and i had to stop.
TLDR; had knee pain the last 2.5 years.
What do I think is the cause?
I think it could be either two things:
1. The house i'm living in. Maybe i need to get a tin foil hat, but there's just something about the whole thing. My issues started shortly after I moved in here. And maybe, possibly, they get a bit better when I leave on holiday. For reference, i went on a 6 week holiday at one point and walked between 5k and 25k steps every day and I was OK. At the moment I can't walk 3k every day.
I don't know what it is about the house. Its an old dusty AF house. It could be the water pipes leaching something into the water (although I buy my water and have done for awhile now). It could be radiation (i sit near the power meter for the house). It could be something i'm not thinking about. I've just stayed here 3+ years because its been cheap rent. Anyway, i'm moving at the end of the year in Dec so we'll see if I get better then.
2. I haven't been taking the supplements I previously took that helped me. I've now ordered them after a chat with chatGPT. I've got an issue with all dairy (I get sebaceous cysts that need to be cut out of my skin), even low fat, even hard cheese so my calcium intake has always been low. It mentioned the CCZ - calcified cartilage zone, which is a thin layer between the bone and the articular cartilage (i had the tear in the articular cartilage) that can cause impact pain if not healthy.
It might even be something else these supplements resolve, maybe they just slow me down enough to get me to a better state where my body can properly function.
I was also taking DIM 500mg a day for maybe 2 months, i'll stop this as apparently suppressing estrogen too low can cause joint pain too.
Anyway, i've just ordered them, they arrive in about 2 weeks. I've got 3 months worth, I will re-assess after that
So I'll know if the supplements have helped by early Oct 2025.
The full stack looks like this:
- collagen peptides 10g in orange juice (30min before exercise - note i've been on this for years now, it hasn't resolved my issues)
- calcium citrate 500mg + d3 cholecalciferol 2000 IU + k2 mk-7 200mcg + 3mg boron (with lunch - these have helped balance me in the past)
- magnesium glycinate 400mg + glycine 10g (after dinner)
Baseline as at 20 June 2025:
- knees in pain when trying to walk 3k steps every day
- knees uncomfortable when sleeping and sitting
Goals:
1. Increase tolerable daily walking to 10k steps daily
2. Complete the "c25k" i.e. be able to run 5km
3. Return to tennis
Wish me luck! This has been driving me crazy, i'm an active person and not having tennis has been depressing, and now I can't even go for daily walks!
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