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[Aleksandr]

I plan to take blood tests and mineral analysis after few months on high nourish diet for more accurate results.

Any kind of fasting is not allowed for me atm because of serious underweight.

Good idea. Slow, deliberate, measured.

 

[aztec]

[mention]m_arch[/mention] how are you doing with the licorice root? Any updates?

 

[Aleksandr]

@m_arch how are you doing with the licorice root? Any updates?

Time for an update!

27/10/17

Its going to be hard to say this is a reliable update since ive been sick with the flu this past week (everyone in my house got it so not related to licorice). VERY DIRTY TRIAL alert

On sunday and monday i took in total 5 doses of licorice root (i forgot a dose sunday night). Each dose was 1 teaspoon in a cup of hot water.

Sunday and monday i didnt notice anything different (although i was feeling like crap due to the flu so i wasbt very sensitive to picking up new sensations).

On monday i didn't notice anything. Felt better from the flu though.

On tuesday and Wednesday i started to feel better from the flu. I noticed if i stood up id get a huge surge of blood (previously id get light headed - I think this was flu related but sometimes id get it if i hadnt eaten for awhile) along with a HUGE increase in heart rate. It would shoot up to 115 bmp. I would also get a warm tingly scalp, as well as a flushed feeling in my face.

Prior to starting this my resting heart rate was often below 50, and always first thing in the morning. Now ive checked a few times and its always 55 first thing in the morning. My resting heart rate during the day now seems to be around 65. Previously it was at 55 or so. After i eat it seems to shoot up to 85 for 30 min or so. And during.

In general i seem to have more sensitive adrenaline, lots of things causing an adrenaline spike (increased bloodflow / heart rate).

Interestingly my ranking on this highly competitive phone game 'clash royale' sky rocketed during this time getting a personal best ranking by a mile. I guess the increased bloodflow switched my mind on and opened new possibilities. It was pretty awesome. Ive had that effect before taking sudafed. I guess people often have it from caffeine (ive never tolerated caffeine).

On thursday and Friday (today) i seemed to have fallen sick again with flu symptoms.


Unfortunately my heart felt a little tired like it was getting overworked on tues / wednes. I figure this was from a large increase in heart rate in a small amount of time. I probably need more fuel to build my heart muscle up (just like you would a gym workout for yoyr biceps). My remedy here was basically fast oxidation ideas, eat more and rest more.


I also craved fast food a lot over this past week and indulged a few times (i figured i could be in fast oxidation from the flu / licorice ).

Next Sunday i will lower each dose to 1/4th a teaspoon and see how that goes. Id rather do more cycles and be safe. Overall a really interesting experience. I took t3 a few times following RPs ideas but it only got my heart rate to 70 and only for 30min or so. The licorice had a big effect! If it was that, and not just the flu.

#dirtytrial

 

[aztec]

[mention]m_arch[/mention] that is a detailed update despite having the flu. I am looking forward to the updates. These teas sound interesting and helpful. You will take it for 3 months? Is this your protocol:

“1 heaped tea spoon 3 times a day on Sunday and Monday, then nothing on Tuesday-Saturday for the 'snap back'.”? I wonder if licorice root can work well if taken once on the weekends while rotating CD’s herbs during the week? I believe the guy who cured himself with licorice root did it this way.

 

[Aleksandr]

@m_arch that is a detailed update despite having the flu. I am looking forward to the updates. These teas sound interesting and helpful. You will take it for 3 months? Is this your protocol:

“1 heaped tea spoon 3 times a day on Sunday and Monday, then nothing on Tuesday-Saturday for the 'snap back'.”? I wonder if licorice root can work well if taken once on the weekends while rotating CD’s herbs during the week? I believe the guy who cured himself with licorice root did it this way.

That was the protocol i did this week yes.

I think lower doses would be better to start with, and this coming cycle i will do 1/4th teaspoon 3 times on sunday and monday (6 doses total), then tues-sat nothing for the 'snap back'.

Yeah perhaps. The guy who did CD's herbs as well had different side effects from me though, and he got them from a different drug I think. My sides are mild comparatively. My hair test also showed high sodium, which licorice root is supposed to fix.

 

[aztec]

[mention]m_arch[/mention] good to know! It sounds promising. Champstar had pfs and had the usual sexual side effects. I like the protocol set up. I hope your cycle gives you awesome results pal. Get better and run a clean one.

 

[IHateFin]

that wasn't that dirty of a trial lol ive done dirtier haha
I think it would have been best to get over the flu before starting everything to properly asses n maybe keep doses a little lower to start with, but I hope you're feeling better now.

 

[aztec]

[mention]m_arch[/mention] how are you feeling? Any new updates with licorice root? Is your cold gone?

 

[tanedout]

I tried cycling licorice root a few times in response to the recovery posted on SwoleSource. The first time I tried it I used 6 x 500mg capsules on Sat and another 3 or 4 on Sunday, and that week I felt like I got improved libido on the Friday (definitely did, but I mean it may have just been coincidence), yet tried to repeat this twice and definitely got nothing. Worth a go though! But that guy was PFS, I'm post accutane.

 

[Aleksandr]

@m_arch how are you feeling? Any new updates with licorice root? Is your cold gone?

Yeah I'm finally over that flu now. Ill wait till Friday and post the whole weeks log, ill try to keep it consistent and measure similar variables. Feeling good generally though

 

[Aleksandr]

I tried cycling licorice root a few times in response to the recovery posted on SwoleSource. The first time I tried it I used 6 x 500mg capsules on Sat and another 3 or 4 on Sunday, and that week I felt like I got improved libido on the Friday (definitely did, but I mean it may have just been coincidence), yet tried to repeat this twice and definitely got nothing. Worth a go though! But that guy was PFS, I'm post accutane.

Howd you get that dosage from the swolesource guy?

I'm also post accutane, but i have different side effects. Gbolduev seems to think they (ssri, finastradie, accutane) are all the same in that they screw up progestins. I think mine are antagonised, which is what licorice works for ( i had high sodium low potassium in the hair test and high venous co2) whereas i think licorice will make things worse for someone with agonised receptors (high potassium, and venous low co2) - in this case progesterone is recommended

 

[BeLikeWater]

I tried cycling licorice root a few times in response to the recovery posted on SwoleSource. The first time I tried it I used 6 x 500mg capsules on Sat and another 3 or 4 on Sunday, and that week I felt like I got improved libido on the Friday (definitely did, but I mean it may have just been coincidence), yet tried to repeat this twice and definitely got nothing. Worth a go though! But that guy was PFS, I'm post accutane.

Howd you get that dosage from the swolesource guy?

I'm also post accutane, but i have different side effects. Gbolduev seems to think they (ssri, finastradie, accutane) are all the same in that they screw up progestins. I think mine are antagonised, which is what licorice works for ( i had high sodium low potassium in the hair test and high venous co2) whereas i think licorice will make things worse for someone with agonised receptors (high potassium, and venous low co2) - in this case progesterone is recommended

The theory that one compound make two opposite side effects is very strange, is like if people taking Exogenous Testosterone will end up with 2 opposite results, when the reality is that all end up without creating endogenous testosterone.

 

[tanedout]

I tried cycling licorice root a few times in response to the recovery posted on SwoleSource. The first time I tried it I used 6 x 500mg capsules on Sat and another 3 or 4 on Sunday, and that week I felt like I got improved libido on the Friday (definitely did, but I mean it may have just been coincidence), yet tried to repeat this twice and definitely got nothing. Worth a go though! But that guy was PFS, I'm post accutane.

Howd you get that dosage from the swolesource guy?

I'm also post accutane, but i have different side effects. Gbolduev seems to think they (ssri, finastradie, accutane) are all the same in that they screw up progestins. I think mine are antagonised, which is what licorice works for ( i had high sodium low potassium in the hair test and high venous co2) whereas i think licorice will make things worse for someone with agonised receptors (high potassium, and venous low co2) - in this case progesterone is recommended

I just guessed really, he said he used 1/4 teaspoon of powder 3 times per day on the weekend, at least he worked up to that level, but was seeing benefits at lower dosages which he didn't specify.

I've recently done a hair mineral analysis and should have the results in a week or two, so it'll be interesting to see how it compares to your results

 

[Aleksandr]

I tried cycling licorice root a few times in response to the recovery posted on SwoleSource. The first time I tried it I used 6 x 500mg capsules on Sat and another 3 or 4 on Sunday, and that week I felt like I got improved libido on the Friday (definitely did, but I mean it may have just been coincidence), yet tried to repeat this twice and definitely got nothing. Worth a go though! But that guy was PFS, I'm post accutane.

Howd you get that dosage from the swolesource guy?

I'm also post accutane, but i have different side effects. Gbolduev seems to think they (ssri, finastradie, accutane) are all the same in that they screw up progestins. I think mine are antagonised, which is what licorice works for ( i had high sodium low potassium in the hair test and high venous co2) whereas i think licorice will make things worse for someone with agonised receptors (high potassium, and venous low co2) - in this case progesterone is recommended

I just guessed really, he said he used 1/4 teaspoon of powder 3 times per day on the weekend, at least he worked up to that level, but was seeing benefits at lower dosages which he didn't specify.

I've recently done a hair mineral analysis and should have the results in a week or two, so it'll be interesting to see how it compares to your results

Yeah tag me in the thread when you post it if you can so i don't miss it? Orion is also post-accutane but has different sides to me, it looked like he was the more common with agonised and high potassium. He's currently fasting and taking progesterone

 

[BeLikeWater]

@m_arch how are you feeling? Any new updates with licorice root? Is your cold gone?

Yeah I'm finally over that flu now. Ill wait till Friday and post the whole weeks log, ill try to keep it consistent and measure similar variables. Feeling good generally though

Is it your first time that you got flu after pfs? How many years of pfs? Thank you

 

[Aleksandr]

@m_arch how are you feeling? Any new updates with licorice root? Is your cold gone?

Yeah I'm finally over that flu now. Ill wait till Friday and post the whole weeks log, ill try to keep it consistent and measure similar variables. Feeling good generally though

Is it your first time that you got flu after pfs? How many years of pfs? Thank you

No, ive had plenty of flus between my last dose (9years ago) and now. The whole household got this one, icdont think it was related to the licorice root. I was the last person to get it too.

Im post-accutane and i think have antagonised receptors, not pfs

 

[Aleksandr]

Also, my weekly update (ive been logging over the week);

Sun / monday took 1/4th teaspoon of 1:1 licorice root powder 3x both days.

Sunday: didn't feel any different

Mon: eyes seem to get a bit dry again. Heart rate measured 45 at 8am
Again 45 at 11am
Feeling low energy
Feel bad on licirice root? Check

Tues; woke up with a really white tongue
Woke up tired
Heart rate 58bpm at 8:20am
49 at 11:30am
70 after lunch at 1pm. Feel warm and tingly
Feeling good. Good energy. Feels like im over the flu.
I seem to snap back on this lower dose halfway through the next day. Awesome!

Wednes;
Woke up early feeling good.
44bpm at 6am
46bpm at 11:30am
62bpm after lunch 12:30 warm and tingly.
Exercised in the arvo.

Thurs: 49bpm 6am feel good
10am had first meal. Feel warm and tingly. Lots of mitochondrial uncoupling occuring? 61bpm after food
61bpm at 3pm
Exercised in the arvo.

Friday: it feels like when i get anxious / a surge of adrenaline now, i feel warm and tingly and kind of relaxed in a way. Previously id just get that feeling and feel weird and kind of bad. Now it still feels weird, but its accompanied with a feeling of hightened senses / reflexes and increased alertness. Kind of more capability and capacity to deal with whatever situation trigged the feeling. I dont dislike the feeling now.
52 bpm at 6am.

Although my heart rate is still getting low readings, im feeling good. It kind of corresponds to fatigue but not always and i dont think its that simple. Athletes often have slower heart beats and enlarged hearts through training. I think here after exercise you snap back with a lower heart rate as your new normal? Perhaps

Since starting this protocol ive played two league tennis matches and been to training 3x. Ive won both my matches and played well at training. Previously id be very inconsistent; sometimes on, sometimes off. I feel like a pilar of stability out there now. Its my opponents crumbling, not me. To put it into perspective, last year i won 2/14 matches. So far im 2/2. Consistency is really important in tennis. Got another match tomorrow. Its highly competitive so any small advantage is good, so it feels like a good test. Its also full of adrenaline. How do you respond under pressure? Before i crumbled and felt crap. Now under pressure i feel like "come at me bro". What a feeling. Is this what normal feels like? Really chuffed so far.

Next cycle i will do 1/2 teaspoons.

 

[mattyb]

Really happy to hear the most recent update man! Sounds like you are doing great.

I can really attest to the two different adrenaline feelings. It's the difference between learned helplessness and effectively coping with a challenge. It's a great feeling when you know deep down that you can cope with any challenge put in front of you.

Don't worry about the low HR. If you have been an athlete for years a low HR is completely normal. Any athlete with decent cardio will have an HR below 60, it's just a consequence of having higher stroke volume. When my cardio was at it's best my resting HR was ~45 and I was completely healthy at the time.

 

[Aleksandr]

Really happy to hear the most recent update man! Sounds like you are doing great.

I can really attest to the two different adrenaline feelings. It's the difference between learned helplessness and effectively coping with a challenge. It's a great feeling when you know deep down that you can cope with any challenge put in front of you.

Don't worry about the low HR. If you have been an athlete for years a low HR is completely normal. Any athlete with decent cardio will have an HR below 60, it's just a consequence of having higher stroke volume. When my cardio was at it's best my resting HR was ~45 and I was completely healthy at the time.

Thanks Matt! And good to know you confirm about the heart rate. I always thought i was hypothyroid because of peats ideas of ideal heart rate being 85, but ive always been able to eat a lot and not get fat. My hair test also says im slightly hyperthyroid. The hair test was interesting, because i seem to have had a lot of weird inconsistencies, i.e. hyperthyroid but low / bonking energy? Doesn't make sense from a peat point of view. But it does from the hair test; my boking energy is due to a relative magnesium deficiency since one of those ratios infers i have hypoglycemia. I think my weird symptoms are due to havig a weird physiology which the hair test reflected too.

So yeah. Seems like its a progestin thing from accutane and hopefully licorice root will solve it. I plan to retest the hair in 3 months or so.

 

[BeLikeWater]

Yeah I'm finally over that flu now. Ill wait till Friday and post the whole weeks log, ill try to keep it consistent and measure similar variables. Feeling good generally though

Is it your first time that you got flu after pfs? How many years of pfs? Thank you

Near all pfs users havent have had a flu pfs.

No, ive had plenty of flus between my last dose (9years ago) and now. The whole household got this one, icdont think it was related to the licorice root. I was the last person to get it too.

Im post-accutane and i think have antagonised receptors, not pfs