Lyme disease (?) How would you treat

[BC2018]

I got my blood test results back, I tested for a couple markers of lyme but don't have enough on the list for my doc to admit I have lyme or something unknown and very similar and give me antibiotics. What should I do? TBQH the lyme symptoms are even worse than the horrible side effects we're all dealing with.

 

[Ocguy]

I got my blood test results back, I tested for a couple markers of lyme but don't have enough on the list for my doc to admit I have lyme or something unknown and very similar and give me antibiotics. What should I do? TBQH the lyme symptoms are even worse than the horrible side effects we're all dealing with.

Ugh, it's a long process.. stick with detox like ozone, liver flushes, salt baths, foot spas, dry sauna ( if u can sweat) gut building and mineral balance..

killing bugs helps but with pfs and it's effect on overall immunity, you could quite possibly be playing perpetual whack a mole.

The best thing you can do for immunity is having detox pathways flowing

 

[manu]

I don't have any experience with lyme but Tim Ferriss claims that going into ketosis for some time has cured him from lyme disease. Look it up on youtube might be worth a try.
AFAIK @bruschi11 has lyme and knows a lot about it. Maybe he will chime in.

 

[BC2018]

What about bee stings? I was told they can be used to keep the lyme at bay

I don't have any experience with lyme but Tim Ferriss claims that going into ketosis for some time has cured him from lyme disease.

That's true sugar, fruits, carbs wreaks havoc on my body but that sounds too easy. It would be something if you can kill the disease just with a carnivore or greens diet

 

[Helen]

I got my blood test results back, I tested for a couple markers of lyme but don't have enough on the list for my doc to admit I have lyme or something unknown and very similar and give me antibiotics. What should I do? TBQH the lyme symptoms are even worse than the horrible side effects we're all dealing with.

try arginase inhibitor L-Norvaline

Lyme takes your manganese and induces arginase by producing arginase. This causes arginine to go into urea and immune system deactivation, this is how it survives.

If you take l norvailine, you will inhibit arginase and immune system will start killing it.


You can also try to drink urine. since urea will inhibit arginase

 

[Goose12]

Just saw this article on lyme Garlic holds promise in treating lingering Lyme disease, research finds

 

[bruschi11]

Will chime in when feeling a bit better.
On a water fast, tough morning.

@BC2018 I think fighting Lyme, pathogens overall is good idea for anyone with pfs, cfs, pssd etc.

Tim Ferris/ ketosis is interesting. Holistic place I went to last year had you go on ketogenic diet for 3 months along with the Laser program.

Fasting has been huge for me which is just stronger ketosis. @Cdsnuts beat his Lyme with fasting too.

Will go deeper on this when I have chance.

 

[BC2018]

You can also try to drink urine. since urea will inhibit arginase

So it's bad if I take L-Arginine? I've been craving drinking my urine lately on an instinct level but I also thought maybe the pfs or lyme was turning me demented. I tried urine a few times as a kid because I had a family into wacky remedies and the smell was traumatic.

 

[BC2018]

@BC2018 I think fighting Lyme, pathogens overall is good idea for anyone with pfs, cfs, pssd etc.

My doctor told me I can take this urine test to prove I have lyme in my body but it's $400-500
Lyme – DNA Connexions

 

[MNK99]

fasting
testing seems like an ordeal pm'd.

 

[Helen]

So it's bad if I take L-Arginine? I've been craving drinking my urine lately on an instinct level but I also thought maybe the pfs or lyme was turning me demented. I tried urine a few times as a kid because I had a family into wacky remedies and the smell was traumatic.

Arginine will be turned into urea. you need to inhibit arginase.

 

[Ocguy]

Arginine will be turned into urea. you need to inhibit arginase.

What's the deal with norvaline? You posted about it somewhere, I bought some based on the research that it does the same thing?
Also, Could it disrupt mineral balancing ?

 

[bruschi11]

Check out my log @BC2018 (that for Boston College? Was there last night).

Right now I’m fasting for Lyme and fasting for me has been best thing for it.

A lot of things to look into- colostrum, chinese herbs, transfer factor classic, tei balancing, rife machine, salt and C protocol for Lyme, probiotics.

How is your gut? Gut, liver is everything in detoxing you here when you combat this stuff.

 

[bruschi11]

What's the deal with norvaline? You posted about it somewhere, I bought some based on the research that it does the same thing?
Also, Could it disrupt mineral balancing ?

Would love to see you try it.

High on my list of things to do post fast. Another natural health doctor sent me email with links and one was how the nitric oxide system is just killed in CFS issues like Lyme. One recommended way of going about was high dose arginine, citrulline.

 

[Helen]

What's the deal with norvaline? You posted about it somewhere, I bought some based on the research that it does the same thing?
Also, Could it disrupt mineral balancing ?

you have lyme? norvaline inhibits arginase, so keeps immune system active.

Lyme takes your manganese, makes arginase out of it, and releases it. and this way , Lyme basically, uses your manganese to kill you.

you take arginase inhibitor, this increases Arginine and INOS and it start whacking your lyme like you read about.


this is a theory. but I posted one case , where the guy who used it was beating lyme really fast. I think it is in @bruschi11 's log

 

[bruschi11]

L-Norvaline

Story is here @Ocguy

 

[Ocguy]

you have lyme? norvaline inhibits arginase, so keeps immune system active.

Lyme takes your manganese, makes arginase out of it, and releases it. and this way , Lyme basically, uses your manganese to kill you.

you take arginase inhibitor, this increases Arginine and INOS and it start whacking your lyme like you read about.


this is a theory. but I posted one case , where the guy who used it was beating lyme really fast. I think it is in @bruschi11 's log

Yea definitely have lyme among other chronic infections, but been ignoring it and just focusung on my gut, mineral balancing, liver , detox
NO is in the toilet. all my vascularity is gone, something I noticed a few years ago as it faded to obscurity.. and I had viens popping on top of viens from genetics as well as decades in the gym
No test strip confirmed, citrulline/arginine has zero effect.. body just ignores it

Sidenote@Helen have my new arl and tei hairtest.. regarding manganese. It skyrocketed from prior test along with aluminum (off the chart) and magnesium and iron. 3 Amigos. Back to 4 highs

I'm definitely dumping right now and I don't want to interfere with it. Should I wait before I dive into norvaline?

Will post hair test results when I get the hardcopy, it was read to me over the phone yesterday..

interestingly tei didn't pick up on the aluminum dump or the manganese spike or the iron I believe.

 

[Ocguy]

L-Norvaline

Story is here @Ocguy

Thanks man, good article.. anxious to try, but conflicted

 

[BC2018]

Lyme takes your manganese, makes arginase out of it, and releases it. and this way , Lyme basically, uses your manganese to kill you.

you take arginase inhibitor, this increases Arginine and INOS and it start whacking your lyme like you read about.

You think lyme was designed in a lab?

 

[Ocguy]

You think lyme was designed in a lab?

Doubtful

TOUCHED BY LYME: Meeting the world's oldest Lyme disease patient

They might have made it more virulent, but it's likely been around as long as life on this planet