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Fazed22

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I stopped coffee enemas as I’m realizing now they’re just increasing metal load in tissues. But it’s probably good to do 1 or 2 a week to help liver/ bile as we both know.

Pectasol is so weak.Its done nothing for me. Nothing. Blood donation I really don’t recommend dude/ they can really fuck peopel up. Saunas great. Humic fulvic weak and might grab boron nicely but just really seems weak for the big ones cadmium and aluminum—- I legit used everyday for a week and test and both increased.

I’m honestly thinking next to saunas / TEI (which is part of chelation. My nutrient approach is your TEI essentially think of it that way) , just seriously chelate.

Whether it’s Dr pompa style 3-4 days on 10 days off but on those 3-4 days on you’ve got chelator in your body 24/7. And I’m talking zeolites OSR edta dmps. Every 8 hours. Waking up, right before bed, mid day. For 3 -4 days non stop. Followed by that sayyy 10 day break. Or cutler style 4 day break. Or something in between which I like the idea of.
Pretty sure my issues are not to do with aluminium, I've taken colloidal silica which is supposed to be the best thing for detoxing aluminium, felt a bit of a difference when I first took it but not that helpful after.

Cadmium I was drinking a chocolate flavoured probiotic drink frequently around the time of the oligoscan. I probably do have cadmium toxicity from being addicted to chocolate in the past.

Oligoscan is just showing us the surface level of whats in tissues at that current time, it is not showing us what's stored deeper like what's in the liver.

I think iron and copper excess are a much bigger issue for me and probably some other metals too.

No I know going onto the hardcore sulfur chelators would be a very bad idea for me right now and my liver. While by no means am I trying to make this into a competition or anything we are simply at a different stages of healing and have different situations. I am fully functional and regularly exercise and ready to work and get on with my life, yes if I eat things with bad seed oils it does mess up my brain and nerves so I need to become more disciplined with how I eat for now and cheat less. And yeah my hormones are not optimal yet but hopefully we will get there one day. My HTMA still isn't great but slowly moving in the right direction I think.
 
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ruprmurdoch

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Pretty sure my issues are not to do with aluminium, I've taken colloidal silica which is supposed to be the best thing for detoxing aluminium, felt a bit of a difference when I first took it but not that helpful after.

Cadmium I was drinking a chocolate flavoured probiotic drink frequently around the time of the oligoscan. I probably do have cadmium toxicity from being addicted to chocolate in the past.

Oligoscan is just showing us the surface level of whats in tissues at that current time, it is not showing us what's stored deeper like what's in the liver.

I think iron and copper excess are a much bigger issue for me and probably some other metals too.

No I know going onto the hardcore sulfur chelators would be a very bad idea for me right now and my liver. While by no means am I trying to make this into a competition or anything we are simply at a different stages of healing and have different situations. I am fully functional and regularly exercise and ready to work and get on with my life, yes if I eat things with bad seed oils it does mess up my brain and nerves so I need to become more disciplined with how I eat for now and cheat less. And yeah my hormones are not optimal yet but hopefully we will get there one day. My HTMA still isn't great but slowly moving in the right direction I think.

in my case aluminium on hairtest become chelated when I took mgcl for 2,5 months(magnesium is known alu chelator)

ps. this list of of ,,what chelated what" based on studies as fa as i remember:

aluminium-magnesium,silica
arsenic-folic acid
cadmium-zinc or magnesium
mercury-selenium
 

RebelWithACause

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i found chelators are often more hurtful than helpful unless combined with a very nutritious diet. Most people are so deficient in stuff. And yes toxic in others. Just using chelators gonna end up in the gutter.
 

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i found chelators are often more hurtful than helpful unless combined with a very nutritious diet. Most people are so deficient in stuff. And yes toxic in others. Just using chelators gonna end up in the gutter.

Gotta use tons of minerals with it. I’m taking like 66mg zn, 24mg cu, 10000mcg cr ya I said that right, 10mg lithium .

I really don’t think gbold backed just how much he chelated on this site. He chelated tons.

I think cadmium is the hidden toxicity that nobody really thinks about as it really doesn’t show in hair. It’s showing aplenty in oligoscans all over the place . I lose my mind when it goes high in oligoscans.

AND I found it up a bit in my urinary metals test in 2021.

Freakin marijuana.

I do think liver flushing and lowering vitamin A helps get it out. We are gonna see here.

For the record, taking vitamin A made me lose my mind in 2021 for good. Extreme reaction.
 

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That's what I didn't get about Andy Cutler's stuff. Why does he say you take it 3 days and then stop. Ok I get it if you have massive amounts of mercury toxicity but at that point you probably lack a lot of other nutrients as well from mercury displacing and causing hypothyroidism, low stomach acid, etc. At that point it's not good to focus on mercury. I think it will come out automatically more if you speed up metabolism by getting good nutrition and minerlas vitamins.

But now I am doing decent I See good results from focussing on mercury. Shows you how things can change over time.
 

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@ruprmurdoch BTW they saw when they tested autistic children their mercury was always low in hairtests but they were full with it.

I think the sicker you are the less you will see massive amounts of metals coming out through your hair. If you are healthier you probably have high metals on your hair test because your body is even able to move them.
The computers of TEI and ARL can probably analyse this because I'm sure those toxic metals in the brain still affect hormone levels and mineral retention
 

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@RebelWithACause i know you were recently talking about iron overload (or smthing similar) ... have you had an iron panel done? i'm asking because i've just got my latest results back, showing too high serum iron and medium serum ferritin (also high total bilirubin among other things). i'm wondering if i should address this by chelating iron or whether to consider this high serum iron as having some function...
 

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@RebelWithACause i know you were recently talking about iron overload (or smthing similar) ... have you had an iron panel done? i'm asking because i've just got my latest results back, showing too high serum iron and medium serum ferritin (also high total bilirubin among other things). i'm wondering if i should address this by chelating iron or whether to consider this high serum iron as having some function...
never got it tested but I don't tolerate high iron anymore. I ate a lot of red meat though like insane amounts for the average person. I can't eat any high iron food anymore or I get fatigue, depression and sometimes anger. Low estrogen feelings too. Very low libido if I do. So this is how I figured it out because if I don't eat high iron foods I have no issues. Before I would feel better from high iron food so this change was apparent in me.

Best way to get rid of high iron is to increase metabolism. @zancek0 and meanwhile keep intake lower. It will correct itself. If you just chelate iron in my opinion that's kinda useless unless you want to quickly correct something. But if you have high iron it could just be a sign of your body not untilising the iron that you consumed. Or at least not fast enough of a consumption to keep it lower.

B1 can help too. Stuff that increases cortisol
 

zancek0

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never got it tested but I don't tolerate high iron anymore. I ate a lot of red meat though like insane amounts for the average person. I can't eat any high iron food anymore or I get fatigue, depression and sometimes anger. Low estrogen feelings too. Very low libido if I do. So this is how I figured it out because if I don't eat high iron foods I have no issues. Before I would feel better from high iron food so this change was apparent in me.

Best way to get rid of high iron is to increase metabolism. @zancek0 and meanwhile keep intake lower. It will correct itself. If you just chelate iron in my opinion that's kinda useless unless you want to quickly correct something. But if you have high iron it could just be a sign of your body not untilising the iron that you consumed. Or at least not fast enough of a consumption to keep it lower.

B1 can help too. Stuff that increases cortisol
Thanks man. I actually noticed that I have some days where my body feels particularly averse to meat. I'll follow the feelings lol. I might try IP6 just to see what happens.