Methylation / Methylation-protocols benefits / mistakes ?

[Helen]

I wrote what you need and in what proportions to recycle glutathione. Finasteride blocks NADPH. This is why it causes b1 b2 and b deficiencies, which then leads to deficiencies in bile, and fatty acids. It is all in electrolytes protocol.

So to get rid of finasteride or other sides, you need to increase Bs like in my previous post. Plus it is best to eat vitamin C and E , and also increase sat fats in your diet, so you absorb the fats that you were missing while on finasteride. I even recommened 2 products for that.

But no one seems to use that protocol.

Bs ratios. 600 mg of thiamin HCL, 500 mg of B5, 100-200 mg of b6 and 250-500 mg of niacinamide, along with 3-10 mg folate and some B12 to balance out 100 mg of riboflavin.

 

[Orion]

I wrote what you need and in what proportions to recycle glutathione. Finasteride blocks NADPH. This is why it causes b1 b2 and b deficiencies, which then leads to deficiencies in bile, and fatty acids. It is all in electrolytes protocol.

So to get rid of finasteride or other sides, you need to increase Bs like in my previous post. Plus it is best to eat vitamin C and E , and also increase sat fats in your diet, so you absorb the fats that you were missing while on finasteride. I even recommened 2 products for that.

But no one seems to use that protocol.

Bs ratios. 600 mg of thiamin HCL, 500 mg of B5, 100-200 mg of b6 and 250-500 mg of niacinamide, along with 3-10 mg folate and some B12 to balance out 100 mg of riboflavin.

I got the phoso lipid factors this week, plan on testing with them soon. Will test with larger B3 amounts as well(does it cause a methylation block?)

 

[supernature]

I wrote what you need and in what proportions to recycle glutathione. Finasteride blocks NADPH. This is why it causes b1 b2 and b deficiencies, which then leads to deficiencies in bile, and fatty acids. It is all in electrolytes protocol.

So to get rid of finasteride or other sides, you need to increase Bs like in my previous post. Plus it is best to eat vitamin C and E , and also increase sat fats in your diet, so you absorb the fats that you were missing while on finasteride. I even recommened 2 products for that.

But no one seems to use that protocol.

Bs ratios. 600 mg of thiamin HCL, 500 mg of B5, 100-200 mg of b6 and 250-500 mg of niacinamide, along with 3-10 mg folate and some B12 to balance out 100 mg of riboflavin.

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[Helen]

My father is been on Fin for moonths before i find out, prescribed for prostate hyperplasia prevention. I've never been on Fin, but my reduced glutathione is low for some other reason, which is most likely liver, methyl, NAD, FAD, related, even so no indication on organic acids test, which looks all very strange and confusing.

Tons of people eat too much sugar, this causes the b1 def. Then they start working on fats. but too much stress, causes folate and b12 deficiencies. So boom, you are left with only protein and that is cancer. Since protein will cause tons of ammonia, and this ammonia needs to be get rid of by arginase with arignine and manganese.

This sucks up most of arginine and you have low immune system and NO deficiency. And stuff starts growing. infections viruses, etc


Basically to get rid of all of this, you take lysine arginine histidine. Some mineral supplement plus Bs in the proportions I mentioned. , add E and C ,

Basically you need to reverse everything the whole process how it all happened

Too much sugar- b 1 deficiency
b1 deficiency - working on fats.
working on fats - eventual deficiency in b12 and folate

b12 and folate deficiency - low histidine( histamine goes down CFS)
B12 and folate deficiency- body has to break down protein for energy

Breaking protein for energy - ammonia

ammonia - arginine and managanese def

Arginine deficiency -= vasopressin def= dehydration= NO deficiency =hairloss= no immune system

b1 b2 folate deficiency= low bh4/ zero energy NO synthase makes superoxide. Hairloss

 

[Kiwiii]

@Helen and his préfèred sentence : take a bit of this, a little of that, oh and this too ...

 

[Helen]

@Helen and his préfèred sentence : take a bit of this, a little of that, oh and this too ...

it is very clear what to take. Everything is in electrolytes protocol , written out for many months.

 

[Yura]

lol crazy amounts of B vits.. How hydrogen water fits in this. When it pushes the body into fat burning mode? It is not ideal, but I need his antioxidant effect.. Interesting about carnitin. I was using it back then. Maybe I should try it again.. With hydrogen I will burn fat like crazy..

 

[Helen]

lol crazy amounts of B vits.. How hydrogen water fits in this. When it pushes the body into fat burning mode? It is not ideal, but I need his antioxidant effect.. Interesting about carnitin. I was using it back then. Maybe I should try it again.. With hydrogen I will burn fat like crazy..

hydrogen provides acids to retain tons of bs. And forces you never go into the stage of protein catabolism for energy.

This is why in electrolytes protocol there is also hydrogen in form of HCL

So hydrogen water is not bad especially if it is buffered

 

[Yura]

How buffered? Btw what you think about adding lecithin into the food to help fat digestion along with bile acids from jarrow..? Is there more benefit(fat digestion) than downsides(polyunsaturated fatty acids) eating lecithin?

 

[supernature]

Tons of people eat too much sugar, this causes the b1 def. Then they start working on fats. but too much stress, causes folate and b12 deficiencies. So boom, you are left with only protein and that is cancer. Since protein will cause tons of ammonia, and this ammonia needs to be get rid of by arginase with arignine and manganese.

This sucks up most of arginine and you have low immune system and NO deficiency. And stuff starts growing. infections viruses, etc


Basically to get rid of all of this, you take lysine arginine histidine. Some mineral supplement plus Bs in the proportions I mentioned. , add E and C ,

Basically you need to reverse everything the whole process how it all happened

Too much sugar- b 1 deficiency
b1 deficiency - working on fats.
working on fats - eventual deficiency in b12 and folate

b12 and folate deficiency - low histidine( histamine goes down CFS)
B12 and folate deficiency- body has to break down protein for energy

Breaking protein for energy - ammonia

ammonia - arginine and managanese def

Arginine deficiency -= vasopressin def= dehydration= NO deficiency =hairloss= no immune system

b1 b2 folate deficiency= low bh4/ zero energy NO synthase makes superoxide. Hairloss

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[Yura]

Arginine takes 99% of iron guys.. I was using arginine as well. Always great pump in the gym.. How is it related to this topic?

 

[supernature]

This sucks up most of arginine and you have low immune system and NO deficiency. And stuff starts growing. infections viruses, etc

Arginine takes 99% of iron guys.. I was using arginine as well. Always great pump in the gym.. How is it related to this topic?

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[Yura]

So it looks like I should add to my tyrosine, histidne, taurine, glycine also carnitine and arginine? + whey protein..
edit "
-Increased memory since it acts as an anti diuretic,
causing the pituitary to release vosopressin, believed
to enhance the memory"
It really looks like I need some arginine. Especially if it can help with hydration.. Btw I assume that I can take all amino acids in free form together at once in one glass of water? Because taking them individually one by one every day is crazy..

 

[HerrFisch]

Bs ratios. 600 mg of thiamin HCL, 500 mg of B5, 100-200 mg of b6 and 250-500 mg of niacinamide, along with 3-10 mg folate and some B12 to balance out 100 mg of riboflavin.

Why has riboflavin to be balanced? And why with b12 and folate?
Could you explain why those ratios?

 

[Kiwiii]

Isn't it possible to take NADPH ?

 

[Yura]

I wonder if I can create any imbalance by taking arginine and carnitine? I know arginine with lysine have some relationship... @Helen what doses of carnitine and arginine are ok? Like 2g each? Also are the basic forms good enough? Or is preferable some specific form?

 

[Helen]

Why has riboflavin to be balanced? And why with b12 and folate?
Could you explain why those ratios?

Since Ribo will increase converson of folate into methylfolate ( mthfr) which will ask for folate and b12, since methylfolate will ask for b12.

 

[supernature]

Why has riboflavin to be balanced? And why with b12 and folate?

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[Yura]

What carnitine should I buy L carnitine, L carnitine tartrate or acetyl L carnitine? and for arginine L arginine or L arginine alpha ketoglutarate?
@Helen can you pls tell me what types I should buy?
So I will try aakg for arginine and regular L carnitine, because I am afraid of this effect on the brain with acetyl. I had also issues with glutamine. It makes me completely crazy and depressed and suicidal..

 

[Yura]

Hm I read more and more here about amino acids and it is such a hit or miss with this approach randomly taking free amino acids in doses that no one knows how much.. I think I will stick too good quality hydrolyzed whey protein and maybe hydrolyzed collagen. There is no way that I will miss some amino acids. When hydrolyzed whey basically doesn't require any digestion.. In this form it will be at least in more "natural". Where are all amino acids in some natural ratio. Especially if I will take hydrolyzed whey and also hydrolyzed collagen... Because taking randomly this or that amino in this or that doses. I have no idea if its beneficial or if it hurts me..
@Helen what you think about D-ribose? Impressive reviews on amazon from CHFS people.. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GK618OA...d_r=4d188fe8-811d-11e8-af94-512c4a9e243e&th=1