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[supernature]

For the record, I had zero idea what “mansour 1989” meant. I thought you were trolling. Maybe... “search ‘mansour 1989’ on google” would have been better understood.

Now understanding your intention. No it wasn’t a stupid post based on intention. But I was looking forward to reading something when you posted it and a google page pops up. Of course I think you’re trolling- I was like wtf what a dick.

Let me get this straight for you and for the rest of the World, OK.

I never meant to post a study here, neither said that.

What people expect is complitely different for everyone.



"Mansour 1989" is the authors name, when you add this to "zinc" and "3b-hsd" it will spit a paper that addresses Q #1 from the OP inquiry.

 

[bruschi11]

Let me get this straight for you and for the rest of the World, OK.

I never meant to post a study here, neither said that.

What people expect is complitely different for everyone.

Mansour 1989 is the authors name, when you add this to zinc and 3b-hsd it will spit a paper that addresses Q #1 from the OP inquiry.

I get it. I’m sorry I reacted like that to your intention. I was wrong and should’ve said something like “dude that’s just a google page.” Which you’d have corrected me on.

Lesson learned.

 

[supernature]

Maybe not best move in world but it wasn’t anything near to what I thought you intended

You still think what you thought and think matters, why ?

I quoted the OP, not anybody else, but the OP, its addressed to the OP, they already had 2 key words in their head and inquiry, i just add another one that point to particular paper.

Now let us ALL know what study do you come up with when you google:
zinc, 3b-hsd, mansour 1989

and if it addresses perfectly the OP inquiry you can easy apology for the inconvenience that arised, how about that.

 

[bruschi11]

@supernature
lol I think the way you did it wasn’t best move in world. It could’ve been explained a lot better clearly as to what you meant. People got confused to point they thought you were being a giant douche.

But you weren’t at all. You were trying to be good, helpful person I get it man.

Now that you’re explaining what you meant I totally get it.

I apologized already. Let’s not forget the hurtful things that were said about me.

 

[supernature]

@supernature
lol I think the way you did it wasn’t best move in world. It could’ve been explained a lot better clearly as to what you meant. People got confused to point they thought you were being a giant douche.

But you weren’t at all. You were trying to be good, helpful person I get it man.

Now that you’re explaining what you meant I totally get it.

I apologized already. Let’s not forget the hurtful things that were said about me.

Same things were said about myself too you can read about above.

You say people get confused over asumptions ..., thats not very good.

Dont forget to do the search and let us know what it shows, because someone can still get confused for no reason and please unconfuse the orange county guy for me because he seemed pretty sure that what he sees is not his phone issue and it wasnt, it was simply the phone owner issue.

 

[bruschi11]

Last thing I’ll say.

You went at both me and @Ocguy personally. Personal attacks about us.

All we did was critique an action of yours. We said nothing about who you are, what you do etc etc.

I’m sorry but I’m offended by the personal attacks. And ocguy should be too. “All he is is an old guy.” And I’m “emotionally unstable.” Etc.

Nothing we did was personal against you. We just thought an action was stupid based on how we interpreted it. Albeit interpretation was wrong, we never made it personal. It was all about the action.

Personal attacks are a lot worse than critiquing an action. I will certainly end this right now and you won’t hear me make another noise in this thread. But I just had to point that out before I go.

 

[supernature]

@bruschi11

Good for you, you fail to interpret something and you lead other people on the same path of misinterpretation.

Instead of worrying about the thread inquiry you are worried about my response.

When you are wrongfully interpreting my posts, accusing me and calling names, same as the orange guy, what you expect, im gonna sit and watch and eat popcorns like the rest of the guys that were active in supporting your wrong asumptions one way or another.

When you say you are calling someone and that one knows he is not in fault, but you are, well dont expect to throw at you cakes, but spears, thats that.

If someone have poor judgment skills, better stay on a side and look, think, think and look untill it come up with the best possible scenarios of an event, instead you were looking for a drama and a crime and guess what, thats what you face.
Instead of blaming yourself, you blame me.

Problem is not this, problem is the OP @ruprmurdoch still dont know what the heck is going on, neither he is appreciating any help but graphs or pictures, which im not aware of, thats the problem.

 

[ruprmurdoch]

results of research*:
3-beta hsd is based on aldo keto reductase 1 enzyme (akr 1) and short chain dehydrogenase (sdr). akr 1 is based on histidine, lysine, tyrosine. sdr is based on nad and nadp.

*my conclusions might be wrong

 

[supernature]

@bruschi11

Plus you havent said anything about the topic this thread requires yet, i wonder what all those posts of yours in the thread are about then, so dont rush to divert from here.

Edit:
You have 8 posts in this thread related to myself and non related to the OP topic, but you say its me who goes personal on you as its obvious you are on this thread nothing but personal on me. Idk what kind of comedy is this.

Nothing we did was personal against you.

No nothing, just 8 posts spread within 12h period and 3 from your buddy, thats 11 posts total, yeah thats nothing personal right.

I asked you personally 2 times to engage in the topic by doing the search i suggested and posting the results here for all of us to see also to help the OP, he said he needs a push, so be that kind.

 

[supernature]

3-beta hsd is based on aldo keto reductase 1 enzyme (akr 1) and short chain dehydrogenase (sdr). akr 1 is based on histidine, lysine, tyrosine. sdr is based on nad and nadp.

Hah, no zinc, no copper, no iron, manganese !? strange enzymes have no metals

 

[joekool]

Let’s try to steer this back on topic. Let’s put the back & forth aside.

 

[supernature]

Let’s try to steer this back on topic. Let’s put the back & forth aside.

The off topic came from @bruschi11 mainly. The guy accused me of things and even he admitted he was doing faulty assumption on my posts,

he showed the audacity to ask @Boris and @Helen with the words: lets get rid of this guy, meaning me. This was deleted later from his post, but he did posted it.

And all this outrageous behaviour is something minor ? or is something normal but only for particular members.

 

[bruschi11]

I’m done with this guy @joekool smh. I gave him shit for posting a link to google.com when a question was asked. That’s what he did whether he meant to provide otherwise or not.

Then he personally attacked me and @Ocguy for critiquing him for it.

Lol just read the posts, he got really personal. I just was like “common that’s just stupid.”

He honestly reminds me of Axoloti on propeciahelp.com . The way he’s acting lol.

 

[Helen]

The off topic came from bruschi11 mainly. The guy accused me of things and even he admitted he was doing faulty assumption on my posts,

he showed the audacity to ask boris and helen with the words: lets get rid of this guy, meaning me. This was deleted later from his post, but he did posted it.

And all this outrageous behaviour is something minor ? or is something normal but only for particular members.

C'mon guys, tons of sick people here and feeling like shit with tons of problems. No reason to argue about these worthless topics.

Supernature, he was wrong, and he apologized. Move on. No reason to keep turning this dead historical event. It happened, everyone got to the point of it and moved on.

Bruschi was not the only one who misunderstood you . Lately there is a lot of sarcasm in your posts. so some people get triggered that is all.

PFS is a bitch, very easy to get emotional . just take it easy , bud.


@bruschi11 I know you are a passionate dude, you have been on fire lately, just take it easy . we all are trying to understand this as much as possible. Some people have different styles of expressing themselves, some with more sarcasm, some too serious, some are all into bugs, some are in hormones, some into minerals etc

We are trying to understand this better, lets all work on this together . HAKUNA MATATA

 

[bruschi11]

C'mon guys, tons of sick people here and feeling like shit with tons of problems. No reason to argue about these worthless topics.

Supernature, he was wrong, and he apologized. Move on. No reason to keep turning this dead historical event. It happened, everyone got to the point of it and moved on.

Bruschi was not the only one who misunderstood you . Lately there is a lot of sarcasm in your posts. so some people get triggered that is all.

PFS is a bitch, very easy to get emotional . just take it easy , bud.


@bruschi11 I know you are a passionate dude, you have been on fire lately, just take it easy . we all are trying to understand this as much as possible. Some people have different styles of expressing themselves, some with more sarcasm, some too serious, some are all into bugs, some are in hormones, some into minerals etc

We are trying to understand this better, lets all work on this together . HAKUNA MATATA

Chelations really got ahold of me right now lol. This all happened on day after finished fasting. Chem depression, I’m sure you’ve been there. I think it’s mercury really coming out. Minds been racing which leads to angry reaction like that. Should’ve just questioned him.

Sorry about this doc.

@supernature , I’d like to move on from this. I thought we got along well in the past and saw you as good guy with common interest. I hated you for the personal attacks- that was rough so whatever I said after “to get rid of him” was heat of the moment and I didn’t really mean it so hence the rapid deletion.

Hope we can move on from this. I got a much needed 7 day vacation beginning Friday. Tropical weather, Internet will be turned off. can’t wait for it. I need it.

 

[supernature]

@Helen
Its not sarcasm in my posts when i ask for clarification on a topic which i see it a bit controversial, due to either idk some details about it or its really controversial to a degree. Those things have to be discussed as well, why not.

I prefer my posts to be on a smile side instead on the cry side, but idk why some people think only they are emotional and sensitive, as its obvious everybody can be. Me personal try to not be an emotionalist.

@bruschi11
You see you even admit and use the word hate on me, well i cant say the same, i dont hate you dont worry. Im not going after you, just showed you the point where i was the one after who there was a brigade.

Proving im not after you or anybody was i asked you 3 times to leave this chase and participate in this thread by doing the search i suggested and showing us the results regarding Q #1 from OP post.

That way you can prove to yourself i was correct, can prove it to everybody else as well, not going by assumptions but by facts.
Idk why you still refuse, i thought you said you want to read the study.

You saying in the beginning i was in fault doesnt make me in fault automaticaly,
but the logic from my initial post added to the OP inquiry does show that i am correct and had nothing but good intention, see the difference.

 

[bruschi11]

@Helen
Its not sarcasm in my posts when i ask for clarification on a topic which i see it a bit controversial, due to either idk some details about it or its really controversial to a degree. Those things have to be discussed as well, why not.

I prefer my posts to be on a smile side instead on the cry side, but idk why some people think only they are emotional and sensitive, as its obvious everybody can be. Me personal try to not be an emotionalist.

@bruschi11
You see you even admit and use the word hate on me, well i cant say the same, i dont hate you dont worry. Im not going after you, just showed you the point where i was the one after who there was a brigade.

Proving im not after you or anybody was i asked you 3 times to leave this chase and participate in this thread by doing the search i suggested and showing us the results regarding Q #1 from OP post.

That way you can prove to yourself i was correct, can prove it to everybody else as well, not going by assumptions but by facts.
Idk why you still refuse, i thought you said you want to read the study.

You saying in the beginning i was in fault doesnt make me in fault automaticaly,
but the logic from my initial post added to the OP inquiry does show that i am correct and had nothing but good intention, see the difference.

You’re taking my words out of context time after time. I said “hated” as in heat of the moment.

You kept on quoting small segments of what I said to make me look like the bad guy time after time here.

I tried to make peace like 12 posts back and have continued to do so. you continue to try and make me look bad. I admitted fault way back. And you still continue to pile it on me.

I never made one personal attack on you and that’s all you did to me. This is crazy. Absolutely crazy.

 

[bruschi11]

Im stunned of the fact an emotional wreck like yourself is trying to match with myself using your own mistakes and trying to implement them on me. This is outragious, there is no excuse for your behaviour, you are lazy and you dont have anything to do, thats why you go on stupid comments and conversations, i guess thats how you score so many answers under your profile.

Instead of helping the OP you are accusing me of doing stupid things, you are total wreck and a disgrace, dont quote me no more.

Instead of waiting like an observer go look it up yourself, you will end up with the same name of the researcher i came up with. Never read the paper myself, but it exists since 1989.

Like look at this freakin quote towards me.

I still never got an apology. Legitimately incredible.

 

[supernature]

Like look at this freakin quote towards me.

I still never got an apology. Legitimately incredible.

You are implementing your behavior on me, was trying to convince me of a crime, even gather more people to combine with you on that.


I never said i need an apology, but directed you to assist and participate in the thread main topic, how this is not clear to you still.


My reaction was after you confronted me accusing me of doing wrong things on purpose, you admitted you were wrong.


Regarding the things i said and an apology, you cant expect someone to apology for defending themeselves from a wrongfully accusation.


You spent so much effort to try to catch me in a wrong and you arent about to spent just little effort to continue on the thread topic, you still accusing me of piling something on to you, while i am not, what is wrong with you, you see the things completely wrong and it doesnt seem you are realizing it.


If you need to tell me something off line, go for it, you know my inbox, dont continue to accusing me that i am trying to aggravate something in this thread.


If you are willing to continue on the thread main topic do it, just like i suggested this to you a couple of time already.


Edit:
@bruschi11
Im not trying to make a conversation of this, dont interpret it that way, my responses are clarifying, i dont need an apologies. I dont need all this discussion with you, so stop going into it .

If you wish to talk to me from now on, do it on the thread topic which is about adrogen pathway, but not about what you thought is happening, because i cant do it.

 

[Helen]

Ok, we need to create boxing matches here. just like youtubers do.

Bruschi vs supernature, and we can bet on these. haha