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Minime

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Post RU update, days 4-6:
Hair shedding continues.
Slight pain/discomfort in and around the genitals.
Significant pain in the penis when I urinate. Went to take a piss today and found my underwear to be blood stained. I guess some blood came out of my urethra.
No idea what is going on...
 
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Goose12

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Post RU update, days 4-6:
Hair shedding continues.
Slight pain/discomfort in and around the genitals.
Significant pain in the penis when I urinate. Went to take a piss today and found my underwear to be blood stained. I guess some blood came out of my urethra.
No idea what is going on...
You might have a UTI or worse! Did you go to the doctor?
 

Minime

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Pain when urinating, along with the blood incident, is completely gone now. Not sure what happened but i will keep monitoring. If it happens again I’ll go to the doc.
The slight pain/discomfort in and around the genitals is also gone.
The only thing remaining at this point is significant hair shedding. I’m using progesterone cream since the RU probably tanked my progesterone. I’m not sure how long I should be using it. I guess I’ll try it for a couple weeks, taper off, then go get labs checked.
 
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@Minime I think ru is out of your system in a week and it can be another week or 2 before your body readjusts. Maybe try only being on prog a week. I think the sooner you get off the better.

I use to get testicle pain on and off for a year after I crashed. It will go away the better you get.
 

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@Minime I think ru is out of your system in a week and it can be another week or 2 before your body readjusts. Maybe try only being on prog a week. I think the sooner you get off the better.

I use to get testicle pain on and off for a year after I crashed. It will go away the better you get.
@Goose12
I think today is one week off of RU so it will be interesting to see what happens now. My scalp is constantly tingling. I’m assuming it’s DHT. I’ll taper down the progesterone in a week and see what happens. Thanks for your help!
 

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Maybe better to not take jack shyt man.
Quit Progesterone. I said it's a bad idea a yr ago.
 
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I think today is one week off of RU so it will be interesting to see what happens now. My scalp is constantly tingling. I’m assuming it’s DHT. I’ll taper down the progesterone in a week and see what happens. Thanks for your help!
Sounds like high dht. My scalp tingles all the time since I crashed, just lately it's getting better on tei. On randro my head was on fire and shedding like crazy. After, randro my hair looked better and shedding slowed way down compared to before randro.
 

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Update: Shedding is extreme now and shows no sign of slowing. Woke this morning to numerous hairs all over my pillow. Scalp feels electric with tingling and itching.
 

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Minime during my first or second (or one long crash???) of PFS, last yr, I had burning pain in entire genital region. (PLUS all over back and stomach from surgery). It was pretty hard I must admit. BUt*** that pain went away (nearly all, sometimes comes back like 1/10th as much with copper or ru or randro /4andro at first). Also random shocks same with pssd (but not like that burning shrinkage pain). It's hard no doubt/ but not any sign of certain permanence.
-I had 2 real crashes you can say. ONE while on, less and less cognitive and mental function and worsened physical shape, then could not eat... then went to hell after quitting. But like I said many times; far improved. Mostly better shape than ever (tho I don't mind skinny and some strength vs much stronger and less skinny looking but that even sounds gay).
 

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Update:
Things are just getting worse. Extensive hair shedding continues. I will be bald in a couple weeks if this continues at this rate. Numerous hairs on my pillow this morning.
Hair is strange. I think it is dead. The hairs on my head are all starting to curl, like pubes. And the hair is very very greasy now. My hair almost looks black due to the grease (I have brown hair).
That tingling/electric feeling on my scalp persists. Has actually made me think of trying Fin or hair replacement procedure.
Dick and balls are shriveled and completely dead. Can’t get it to respond to anything.
Really struggling here. If anyone has any advice I would appreciate it.
 

Goose12

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Update:
Things are just getting worse. Extensive hair shedding continues. I will be bald in a couple weeks if this continues at this rate. Numerous hairs on my pillow this morning.
Hair is strange. I think it is dead. The hairs on my head are all starting to curl, like pubes. And the hair is very very greasy now. My hair almost looks black due to the grease (I have brown hair).
That tingling/electric feeling on my scalp persists. Has actually made me think of trying Fin or hair replacement procedure.
Dick and balls are shriveled and completely dead. Can’t get it to respond to anything.
Really struggling here. If anyone has any advice I would appreciate it.

Are you still taking ARL supps and prog? If you are you can drop everything for a week and see where you are at.

I have gone through the same thing, a lot of us have. It will get better. While I was on randro I was planning on shaving my head and at the time i began except the fact of going bald. On randro my head felt on fire, it kept me from sleeping most nights. Afterwards my hair looked better than before.

It sucks but we all go through ups and downs. Just ignore it as much as possible. Easier said than done. This is curable 100%.

To me your options are take a break from everything and maybe even fast to reset, or drop prog and stick it out with arl. I think you should plan on getting tei, it seems to work much faster.
 

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Update:
Things are just getting worse. Extensive hair shedding continues. I will be bald in a couple weeks if this continues at this rate. Numerous hairs on my pillow this morning.
Hair is strange. I think it is dead. The hairs on my head are all starting to curl, like pubes. And the hair is very very greasy now. My hair almost looks black due to the grease (I have brown hair).
That tingling/electric feeling on my scalp persists. Has actually made me think of trying Fin or hair replacement procedure.
Dick and balls are shriveled and completely dead. Can’t get it to respond to anything.
Really struggling here. If anyone has any advice I would appreciate it.

Stop progesterone.
 
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Minime

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Thanks for the response guys. I have stopped taking progesterone. My last application was 24 hours ago and it was a very small amount. I did not reapply progesterone last night or this morning.

For drugs like RU which have a very strong affinity to certain receptors, is it permanent or only temporary? In other words, once RU locks in on a receptor, is that receptor ever replaced, allowing progesterone back in, or is that receptor now have RU forever?

I’m assuming since RU is an anti progesterone that I also now have potassium wasting. True? Should I do anything about this?

Should I take my ARL sups today or just lay off everything for a bit?

Thanks again.
 
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Minime

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Well guys, things have just gotten so much worse. I had a 12 hour period a few days ago where I thought the shedding had decreased dramatically and I actually posted a comment on here stating all of the negative sides had dissipated. I deleted that comment as I could not have been more wrong.

So this is a last ditch plea for help.

The hair shedding has been insane. A close friend of mine is a hair stylist and she knows my hair quite well. She says I have lost 90% of the hair on the top of my head, and probably 60% - 65% of the hair on the sides and back. My scalp is visible from any and every angle when looking at my head. She’s never seen this before but she predicts complete baldness no later than the end of November unless a doctor can figure out something for me.

And therein lies one of the problems. Doctor’s schedules are booked out for weeks. And I’m not really sure who I should go see. I was lucky to get into an Endo last week only because he is brand new and doesn’t have a client base yet. He could have cared less about my issue. He sent me for some labs and asked me to come back in 8 weeks. I will be bald by then. But the labs won’t be available for “a week or two”.

My scalp is on fire with itchiness and irritation. It is quite greasy so I guess I have high cortisol and high DHT.

So here is my plea. If there is anyone with some guidance for me please let me know. Can I do anything about the high cortisol and high DHT?

I appreciate any help you can offer.

@Helen
 

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What supplements are you taking. You started to take ARl gain, but RU changed your body chemistry.

May be that restarted your hairloss
 

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I'm sorry for you @Minime.
If I would be in your situation, I would do the following:
- Shave my head
- Brace myself for a horrible ride on ARL for a year
- Use external stuff ONLY to manage pain etc. (put some ice if there is pain, etc.) NO hormones or anything else. If there is no way out skip a day, etc.
- Postpone every other goal in your life. They will be much easier to accomplish once your system is in place. You don't lose a year - actually you will gain years hopefully!

I think you have too many issues (PFS, PAS, Hypothyroidism, ...) to tackle them individually. If you treat one thing, the other things will get worse.
It's alway this way because it's a system!

You need a program for your whole system: ARL, TEI, Electrolytes Protocol.

I wish you all the best!
 

Minime

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What supplements are you taking. You started to take ARl gain, but RU changed your body chemistry.

May be that restarted your hairloss
Yes I am taking ARL but only once daily. And to be honest I’m not consistent on taking it daily, but I try to be. But I had stopped while taking RU and my hair started falling out before I used Prog or jumped back on ARL.

I just wish I knew how my system is so different from everyone else’s. Plenty of people on here have used RU, even at higher doses than me, with no negative sides. I don’t think anyone has had negative sides actually.
 

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Yes I am taking ARL but only once daily. And to be honest I’m not consistent on taking it daily, but I try to be. But I had stopped while taking RU and my hair started falling out before I used Prog or jumped back on ARL.

I just wish I knew how my system is so different from everyone else’s. Plenty of people on here have used RU, even at higher doses than me, with no negative sides. I don’t think anyone has had negative sides actually.
Get labs done ASAP