Mitchell08 PFS Log

[M_Mitchell08]

How can I have a testosterone level of 234 and wake up with a raging hard on the next day? I don't get this and getting ready to throw in the towel - i mean seriously, is my body just that out of whack?

 

[TubZy]

I would just try taking nothing for 2 weeks up until a month and see how you feel (and if you want get another test for T levels) or jump on ARL/TE protocol, herbs etc. I wouldn't stress of blood level hormones at this point, honestly. They are pretty much irrelevant with PFS mainly and constantly fluctuate with PFS. Like you said you are waking up with morning wood, I wouldn't stress too much with the numbers just keep trucking forward.

I gave up with blood tests years ago, just made me more paranoid as I would just try to individually treat things...

 

[wuf]

How can I have a testosterone level of 234 and wake up with a raging hard on the next day? I don't get this and getting ready to throw in the towel - i mean seriously, is my body just that out of whack?

Are you saying you are feeling better by having lower Testo instead of when you had it higher?

 

[bruschi11]

@M_Mitchell08 have you considered a fast or anything to that degree yet? There's things you can do man this summer when school is out for you. How much time do you have off? We also talked about that Rife machine I think awhile back, might not be dumb to start trying some stuff. Following ARL or TEI supplement stuff too. All this stuff though is going to make you feel worse at first I hope you understand that.

RIFE, ARL they are doing things to your body that allow pathogen die off, toxins in blood stream. So you might not feel well while doing these things, but they get better as time goes on. Then you stop doing thing for a week and go sup free and you realize you feel so much better. I

 

[M_Mitchell08]

I would just try taking nothing for 2 weeks up until a month and see how you feel (and if you want get another test for T levels) or jump on ARL/TE protocol, herbs etc. I wouldn't stress of blood level hormones at this point, honestly. They are pretty much irrelevant with PFS mainly and constantly fluctuate with PFS. Like you said you are waking up with morning wood, I wouldn't stress too much with the numbers just keep trucking forward.

I gave up with blood tests years ago, just made me more paranoid as I would just try to individually treat things...

Thanks TubZ, really appreciate it! I need to send over my results to the lady's name being thrown around here, because my TE did not come with recommendations.

Are you saying you are feeling better by having lower Testo instead of when you had it higher?

No, I'm saying I feel about the same whether I have high or low T, actually I'm not sure I consistently have low T. I can wake up some mornings with rock-hard ons. So I don't really want to speculate one way or another.

@M_Mitchell08 have you considered a fast or anything to that degree yet? There's things you can do man this summer when school is out for you. How much time do you have off? We also talked about that Rife machine I think awhile back, might not be dumb to start trying some stuff. Following ARL or TEI supplement stuff too. All this stuff though is going to make you feel worse at first I hope you understand that.

RIFE, ARL they are doing things to your body that allow pathogen die off, toxins in blood stream. So you might not feel well while doing these things, but they get better as time goes on. Then you stop doing thing for a week and go sup free and you realize you feel so much better. I

Bruschi, I appreciate the comment man. I work full time though, wish I was still in school lol. I do think that I might look into the rife. I believe I have some sort of parasite or fungus, based on some recent muscle testing. I am taking boron and artecin right now to combat the two....

Here is the thing fellas, I think this is much more to do with the 3 rounds of corticosteroids I took in November / December. The weight gain / insomnia / muscle weakness / cystic acne all came after these. The last round I didn't taper off appropriately. I am almost thinking about taking a low dose round and seeing if that is the underlying issue. I've got 157 pills, might just dose up then down over time and see if I can correct the issue.

 

[M_Mitchell08]

For what it is worth, I have included my most recent bloodwork as well as my recent adrenal stress test (24 hour salivary test)

 

[wuf]

For what it is worth, I have included my most recent bloodwork as well as my recent adrenal stress test (24 hour salivary test)

The adrenal stress test looks in the range, but I guess it is borderline low for some of the time indicated. Don't you think so?

 

[M_Mitchell08]

The adrenal stress test looks in the range, but I guess it is borderline low for some of the time indicated. Don't you think so?

To me, and I am no expert, it looks like adrenal fatigue. Low for most of the time and then higher at night. Again, not 100% sure.

 

[bruschi11]

Eh everyone has adrenal fatigue who isn't well to a degree. Your cortisol test doesn't look that bad. It would be interesting to do a cortisol saliva test on someone day by day. Like having a thermometer that reads cortisol lol.

But you need to start focusing on getting the bad out of your body. Whether that's via ARL, TEI, detox protocol, fasting, liver flushes etc etc. I think you've been stuck for awhile to not get aggressive for something different. I'd start being aggressive man- don't listen to any of these "doctors', don't worry about bloods.

You clean the system out, nutritionally balance yourself you'll win. Adrenal fatigue will be part of the past.

But its not as easy as it sounds and the above take some work and suffering (herxheimer) to go through. You need to just jump in man, its honestly just time.

 

[wuf]

Eh everyone has adrenal fatigue who isn't well to a degree. Your cortisol test doesn't look that bad. It would be interesting to do a cortisol saliva test on someone day by day. Like having a thermometer that reads cortisol lol.
But you need to start focusing on getting the bad out of your body. Whether that's via ARL, TEI, detox protocol, fasting, liver flushes etc etc. I think you've been stuck for awhile to not get aggressive for something different. I'd start being aggressive man- don't listen to any of these "doctors', don't worry about bloods.
You clean the system out, nutritionally balance yourself you'll win. Adrenal fatigue will be part of the past.
But its not as easy as it sounds and the above take some work and suffering (herxheimer) to go through. You need to just jump in man, its honestly just time.

What you say makes sense in a general talking.
But, look at me for example, I was "recovered" or at least kind of.. and just 4 days of prohormone changed all my pathway and my feelings.
Before it, i was a smoker, a drinker and doing all a normal person does.... So, I don't think our mess is depending from that, for sure it helps in general ways, but how is it possible that I was having a lot of toxic life style and still fine and then 4 days shut me down?
You want to tell me that now having a detox protocol will build me up again?..Not so sure.
I sometimes feel better without sleeping or eating shit... there are so many variables in the body.

 

[bruschi11]

@wuf PFS is an imbalance. You had that imbalance in your system beforehand and I’m sure you were sensitive to that imbalance coming about again.

You took a prohormone which is extremely powerful on the system. Hell I took them in my late teen years and seriously those things are potent. The imbalance you had there and were sensitive to opened back up.

Now what are ways of going after that imbalance? You’re clearly not stuck there as you were able to fix it once. But you have to figure out what’s best for your system in getting there.

@M_Mitchell08 has to figure out what is best for him. And he had to try some major attempts in doing so. Some of the things I’ve noted above are major ways of attempting to correct imbalances in the body most effectively and efficiently.

Attacking just the pfs imbalance works for some guys historically just look at RU/prog with @Jack17 currently and all the prog cycling cures. But making the body as clean and balanced as possible has just as many cures historically and seems to help the baddd cases best.

 

[M_Mitchell08]

Thanks guys for the response, I really appreciate it. I am just flabbergasted at what is going on in my body. Get this, I have had high levels of liver enzymes for the last 5-6 months. Not sure what brought those on, but like I mentioned in another thread - beer and pfs - everything seems to clear up the following 3-4 days after drinking. I'm talking all symptoms are gone. Here's the kicker, I had my enzymes tested yesterday, after a long weekend of drinking... want to guess whether they were good or bad?

Answer is.... lowest they have been in 6 months. How does any of this even make sense?

 

[bruschi11]

Hahaha that is incredible to be honest I’m flabbergasted a bit too.

Well PFS heavily affects detox system per Helen here. Alcohol definitely does something there for a lot of guys. You are the extreme though to the Nth degree lol.

 

[M_Mitchell08]

Hahaha that is incredible to be honest I’m flabbergasted a bit too.

Well PFS heavily affects detox system per Helen here. Alcohol definitely does something there for a lot of guys. You are the extreme though to the Nth degree lol.

I agree. Here is my gameplan - I am starting an 8 week diet focused on liver detoxification. Once that is complete, I am retesting hair with ARL and will go from there.... that or i just get shitfaced for the rest of my life to detox (kidding, of course - )

 

[bruschi11]

Haha Cap on propeciahelp read his story. He abusted substances for a bit a year after he crashed and it really improved him. And he crashed bad really bad suicidal type depression. He was a skinny dude with fast metabolism is appears. Maybe he slowed himself down.

I spoke to him a year ago and he said he was doing great. Not 100% but close.

The story is the craziest part of us and what we are going through. Just know something will get you there man!

 

[wuf]

Haha Cap on propeciahelp read his story. He abusted substances for a bit a year after he crashed and it really improved him. And he crashed bad really bad suicidal type depression. He was a skinny dude with fast metabolism is appears. Maybe he slowed himself down.

I spoke to him a year ago and he said he was doing great. Not 100% but close.

The story is the craziest part of us and what we are going through. Just know something will get you there man!

What does it mean what you just wrote?
Can you link his story here?
Are you saying thisguy named "Cap" recovered by detoxing?

 

[bruschi11]

@wuf a lot of lives were destroyed including my life for some time. Including the time being. I’m impotent from the hydrogen water can barely get an erection, zero libido at all.

I can joke as much as I want. I know how to heal myself and I know if I stop the hydrogen water I’ll come back stronger. Toxins will be gone from my body, pathogens destroyed and ill be closer to an equilibrium.

I’m sorry man, but I deserve to say and do what I want. I put myself through the ringer on this site. I’ve trusted @Helen ’s words along with following my own experiences and understandings of the body- i’ve Done some incredible things.

I deserve to be confident, I deserve that I can laugh about these things now. I’ve fought so much harder than you and 95% of people that have had this PFS bullshit. I’ve gone all in.

What have you done @wuf ? What have you tried?

I seldomly argue with people here. But let’s hear it bud? Have you read my story, have you read what I’ve put myself through in getting better?

I’ll do it one more time for you bud. LOL!

 

[bruschi11]

What does it mean what you just wrote?
Can you link his story here?
Are you saying thisguy named "Cap" recovered by detoxing?

No he abused substances like alcohol and drugs for a short time period thinking his life was ruined. And he had a bounce back with major improvements. He was shocked.

Look up username “cap” on propeciahelp. It’s not hard.

I was in bed for 7 months. I’ve read every single recovery story or major progress story. I’ve informed myself. If you really cared and your life was truly destroyed you’d have done the same thing I’ve done. You’d know “cap’s” story.

But you haven’t and you don’t.

 

[wuf]

No he abused substances like alcohol and drugs for a short time period thinking his life was ruined. And he had a bounce back with major improvements. He was shocked.
Look up username “cap” on propeciahelp. It’s not hard.
I was in bed for 7 months. I’ve read every single recovery story or major progress story. I’ve informed myself. If you really cared and your life was truly destroyed you’d have done the same thing I’ve done. You’d know “cap’s” story.
But you haven’t and you don’t.

I am suffering from 13 years man, do not talk that way to me. I have been reading all kind of stories, no more time and no wish to read them more.

 

[bruschi11]

Alright.. way to go @wuf in deleting one of your posts above. Hence making me look like a dick. Cool man.

LOL I'll say what I want. I'm fasting today and you pissed me off with a deleted comment above.

As I learned from @Orion - when you fast DNA expresses and you get a bit angry over things. I'm searching for another word. But @wuf you never answered me... what have you even tried lately? What kind of GBOLD friendly tactics have you even attempted.

Keep whining and then deleting posts and telling me not to joke with my friend @M_Mitchell08 . We can't LOL at the fact he legit recovers for a few days after alcohol. Its an interesting thing to say the least.