MOLECULAR HYDROGEN

[Potion]

It is not a placebo. I had major withdrawals from the stuff Tuesday morning when I only had 1 glass Monday (3-4 previous 4 days).

It is possible to experience withdrawals from a placebo. Wherefore experiencing what you call withdrawals is not proof of effectiveness. Cognitive bias empowers the placebo effect; that's why I suggested someone give an ignorant, willing participant the water for a time and ask them to report on any changes they experienced before revealing to them the nature and supposed properties of the water.

 

[Walker]

It is possible to experience withdrawals from a placebo. Wherefore experiencing what you call withdrawals is not proof of effectiveness. Cognitive bias empowers the placebo effect; that's why I suggested someone give an ignorant, willing participant the water for a time and ask them to report on any changes they experienced before revealing to them the nature and supposed properties of the water.

My wife used it for weeks, not knowing any benefits from this site. And I have the exact same model that @bruschi11 has. She has said for the last two weeks she has felt better than she has in a long time, has a lot more energy, and her digestion is far improved. All I told her is that it was great for skin and anti-aging. Had I told her anything else she would've grown weary of my "health foolishness" that I have become obsessed with over the last few years.

But I guess you can always get those from placebo too, right? I understand playing devil's advocate in certain situations but at this point it's bordering on ignorance with the amount of testimonials about it posted here.

 

[bruschi11]

It is possible to experience withdrawals from a placebo. Wherefore experiencing what you call withdrawals is not proof of effectiveness. Cognitive bias empowers the placebo effect; that's why I suggested someone give an ignorant, willing participant the water for a time and ask them to report on any changes they experienced before revealing to them the nature and supposed properties of the water.

Again if you don’t want to believe in others’ experiences on the internet then I ask you to go make an appointment with your MD to help you deal with whatever problems you have.

I woke up with major tinnitus and felt like I got hit by a train Tuesday morning. Couldn’t get out of bed. But my libido which I lost from drinking hydrogen water (it annihilated my libido and has been gone for 10 days, I couldn’t fuck Rihanna right now after being able to have sex 3 times a day) actually jumped up that morning when I experienced those withdrawals.

I then had a glass of hydrogen water and felt a lot better but libido left me.

@Potion you think I’m making this up now. You're a waste of time man, I hope you know that.

 

[Potion]

My wife used it for weeks, not knowing any benefits from this site. And I have the exact same model that @bruschi11 has. She has said for the last two weeks she has felt better than she has in a long time, has a lot more energy, and her digestion is far improved. All I told her is that it was great for skin and anti-aging. Had I told her anything else she would've grown weary of my "health foolishness" that I have become obsessed with over the last few years.

But I guess you can always get those from placebo too, right? I understand playing devil's advocate in certain situations but at this point it's bordering on ignorance with the amount of testimonials about it posted here.

Nice feedback. Thanks.

 

[Potion]

Again if you don’t want to believe in others’ experiences on the internet then I ask you to go make an appointment with your MD to help you deal with whatever problems you have.

I woke up with major tinnitus and felt like I got hit by a train Tuesday morning. Couldn’t get out of bed. But my libido which I lost from drinking hydrogen water (it annihilated my libido and has been gone for 10 days, I couldn’t fuck Rihanna right now after being able to have sex 3 times a day) actually jumped up that morning when I experienced those withdrawals.

I then had a glass of hydrogen water and felt a lot better but libido left me.

@Potion you think I’m making this up now. You're a waste of time man, I hope you know that.

That's interesting. Why do you think it removed your libido?

 

[bruschi11]

That's interesting. Why do you think it removed your libido?

Coffee enemas, long fasts, ARL balancing- all these things take away my libido. I think my system is very toxic (I have lyme/mycoplasma with pfs along with several toxicities- lead, mercury, barium, copper). I believe when excess toxins are in bloodstream that pfs imbalance we have gets a bit worse.

@Niles has similar experience with coffee enemas as did Chi in a fast/milk thistle overdose.

Thing is hydrogen water my genitals seem to be growing if anything. Coffee enemas make them shrink at times (and all the time when my pfs was really bad). So I actually think it’s possible there’s something else going on.

There’s something strong going on in my body with hydrogen water- no doubt about it. I’m going to be using for next 2-3 weeks and if libido doesn’t come back I’ll stop it and see where I am.

 

[Potion]

Coffee enemas, long fasts, ARL balancing- all these things take away my libido. I think my system is very toxic (I have lyme/mycoplasma with pfs along with several toxicities- lead, mercury, barium, copper). I believe when excess toxins are in bloodstream that pfs imbalance we have gets a bit worse.

@Niles has similar experience with coffee enemas as did Chi in a fast/milk thistle overdose.

Thing is hydrogen water my genitals seem to be growing if anything. Coffee enemas make them shrink at times (and all the time when my pfs was really bad). So I actually think it’s possible there’s something else going on.

There’s something strong going on in my body with hydrogen water- no doubt about it. I’m going to be using for next 2-3 weeks and if libido doesn’t come back I’ll stop it and see where I am.

I, too, noticed a change in size when I played with that water. I wonder why that happens.

 

[supernature]

@Helen so u drink 2- 3 L of H2 water per day PLUS more silica rich water(how much per day)... totalizing how much per day?

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[hairsuit]

Have a friend who is selling the Kangen Water systems. All the different Alkalized levels of water. Everything he was describing sounded EXACTLY like what you all have described with hydrogen water. Is there a similarity in the two? I was reading somewhere that the kangen water machines are actually making Hydrogen water, which is where all the benefits are actually coming from. When I questioned him on it, he knew nothing of hydrogen water. Would love to hear your thoughts.

 

[Snow1]

@Helen @TubZy @Orion and forum. Im thinking of buying the Lourdes Hydrofix but want to understand something before I take the financial leap!

I’m a slow oxidizer - as per the attached results, is there reason going from my results that hydrogen water may not be good for me at this stage?

Also I’m going to do ARL balancing, with it being communicated here hydrogen water is only good for slow oxidizers - what if I was to transition to, or become a fast oxidizer as I go through the different stages of ARL balancing - does this mean i should stop hydrogen water all together or only whilst I’m on the ARL program?

If I make this purchase I want to make sure it’s going to be something I can use for the rest of my life after ARL balancing, regardless if I happen to come out the other end of ARL balancing as a fast oxidizer- or would this never happen in a balanced state?

 

[Helen]

@Helen @TubZy @Orion and forum. Im thinking of buying the Lourdes Hydrofix but want to understand something before I take the financial leap!

I’m a slow oxidizer - as per the attached results, is there reason going from my results that hydrogen water may not be good for me at this stage?

Also I’m going to do ARL balancing, with it being communicated here hydrogen water is only good for slow oxidizers - what if I was to transition to, or become a fast oxidizer as I go through the different stages of ARL balancing - does this mean i should stop hydrogen water all together or only whilst I’m on the ARL program?

If I make this purchase I want to make sure it’s going to be something I can use for the rest of my life after ARL balancing, regardless if I happen to come out the other end of ARL balancing as a fast oxidizer- or would this never happen in a balanced state?

WE dont know what hydrogen water is good for. Actually I get very good responses from fast oxidizers from it. My rec for you is to try hydrogen water cheaply before you pend money on expensive machines.

 

[Snow1]

WE dont know what hydrogen water is good for. Actually I get very good responses from fast oxidizers from it. My rec for you is to try hydrogen water cheaply before you pend money on expensive machines.

True, good call. It’s interesting the side effects on libido @bruschi11 has had from it.

Maybe I’ll focus on ARL balancing first.

 

[jaa]

What's the recommended method for trying hydrogen water cheaply before splurging on a machine?

 

[wuf]

What's the recommended method for trying hydrogen water cheaply before splurging on a machine?

buy it-drink it-start with low dosage (like 1 glass) for few days-then think if to increase it or not

 

[hairsuit]

Found a great system the other day, that I ordered. Look up the Alkaway Ultrastream. Tremendous filtering, ionizing, alkalizing and hydrogen capabilities for less than half the Lourdes

 

[Walker]

WE dont know what hydrogen water is good for. Actually I get very good responses from fast oxidizers from it. My rec for you is to try hydrogen water cheaply before you pend money on expensive machines.

If I had to assume, I would be a fast oxidizer (oily skin, aggression, high DHT symptoms), and I feel good on hydrogen water. Just another data point.

Also @bruschi11, I'm assuming it's due to your PFS imbalance, but I actually noticed the opposite on Hydrogen water, I was running fast, had a lot of energy, and libido felt better than normal.

 

[heygate]

True, good call. It’s interesting the side effects on libido @bruschi11 has had from it.

Maybe I’ll focus on ARL balancing first.

I'm in the same boat, and I think im gonna make the leap, the machine Iv got now won't cut it for long term use, and the benefits are too good not get a hydrofix, also the option for inhalation is on another level

 

[jaa]

buy it-drink it-start with low dosage (like 1 glass) for few days-then think if to increase it or not

Know of any suppliers? Having trouble finding stuff online that ships to Canada.

 

[bruschi11]

If I had to assume, I would be a fast oxidizer (oily skin, aggression, high DHT symptoms), and I feel good on hydrogen water. Just another data point.

Also @bruschi11, I'm assuming it's due to your PFS imbalance, but I actually noticed the opposite on Hydrogen water, I was running fast, had a lot of energy, and libido felt better than normal.

Exactly. My energy is pretty incredible. Everything beyond sexuality doing great.

There are times when I chelate though and herx. Chelate with microsilica. Herx a lot with activity, Rife, saunas. These leave me sluggish but extra h2 water and good nights sleep help.

I’m 99% sure my body is dealing with disease toxicities better than it ever has. But it moves pfs imbalance in wrong direction in my given case (just like arl.)

But remember 8 days after I stopped arl I came back with strongest pfs libido possibly other than peak of ru/prog.

So I am hoping for similar reaction to coming off h2.

Gotta realize I’m really toxic and had disease guys. I’m not just pfs so these other issues mess w/the pfs imbalance big time.

 

[Walker]

Exactly. My energy is pretty incredible. Everything beyond sexuality doing great.

There are times when I chelate though and herx. Chelate with microsilica. Herx a lot with activity, Rife, saunas. These leave me sluggish but extra h2 water and good nights sleep help.

I’m 99% sure my body is dealing with disease toxicities better than it ever has. But it moves pfs imbalance in wrong direction in my given case (just like arl.)

But remember 8 days after I stopped arl I came back with strongest pfs libido possibly other than peak of ru/prog.

So I am hoping for similar reaction to coming off h2.

Gotta realize I’m really toxic and had disease guys. I’m not just pfs so these other issues mess w/the pfs imbalance big time.

This is true. Anytime you're detoxing yourself the sexual shit is going to hit the fan, so to say.