Ozone Water (to reverse Hydrogen water induced problems)

[bruschi11]

I know that @Helen has mentioned that drinking ozone water could possibly benefit those who are drinking hydrogen water. I guess this was to balance the system as h2 can unbalance it.

I’ve stopped h2 and have noted how I am stuck in a pretty horrible body chemistry with extreme elevations of calcium and magnesium. Constipation major issue, along with major sluggishness, bad sleep, frequent night urination, mouth dryness.

It makes sense when you look at all the symptoms of elevated calcium/mag. So I’m not scared, I just need to find a way to fix this and will be beginning TEI supps early next week.

That all in hand, can we “un-do” the mess we’ve made with hydrogen water with Ozone water? Can ozone water push me back towards a faster oxidation?

I’m willing to do much of anything now to speed this process up. Would love to hear your thoughts here @Helen as this would be a nice quick way to get out of this pile of crap I got myself into with h2.

 

[Gumbo]

Yeah I'm still fucked by hydrogen water myself. I guess my potassium was super low already (I was 4 lows fast oxidizer last year) but it really sent it through the floor for me. I'm having trouble getting my levels up at all, still getting joint pain. I felt pretty good on it for a few days, but after I came off it (day before @Helen made that big post in the molecular hydrogen thread) it left me with dry, lank, transparent skin, dry hair, lethargy, constipation, weak muscles. Took a huge chunk out of one side of my leg hair, just fell out over the course of a day. I've also noticed a lot of dark freckles showing up very quickly and moles changing so obviously I want to get out of this state as soon as possible.

I got a hair test back, here if anyone is interested. I thought I sent it before starting hydrogen but I think in hindsight I had been doing it for maybe 2 or 3 days when my girlfriend cut my hair for it. So I'm not really sure how much my levels were thrown off. I have ARL sups on the way so I'll be doing that whenever those get here. Probably doing basically electrolytes protocol until then with lots of potassium. If anyone has any better ideas, please share.

 

[Canari]

I was not expecting this with H2! I admit I had some doubts about using something that does not seem to reproduce anything we can get naturally. And as I said, I was more searching towards deuterium depleted water, DDW, because D is just a natural form of H. So I hope that this was making H2 and not D (or D2 if possible).

This H2 is made to alkalinise the body, so I guess you need to go towards acidity? Increase Phosphorus?

I feel for you guys!

 

[Canari]

I would suggest MSM ?

Also there are many signs of dehydration. I dont know if Si is good in this case because of high Ca...
Then I would use aloe gel, chia gel, a lot of bone and skin broth... for gelatine.

 

[bruschi11]

Yeah I'm still fucked by hydrogen water myself. I guess my potassium was super low already (I was 4 lows fast oxidizer last year) but it really sent it through the floor for me. I'm having trouble getting my levels up at all, still getting joint pain. I felt pretty good on it for a few days, but after I came off it (day before @Helen made that big post in the molecular hydrogen thread) it left me with dry, lank, transparent skin, dry hair, lethargy, constipation, weak muscles. Took a huge chunk out of one side of my leg hair, just fell out over the course of a day. I've also noticed a lot of dark freckles showing up very quickly and moles changing so obviously I want to get out of this state as soon as possible.

I got a hair test back, here if anyone is interested. I thought I sent it before starting hydrogen but I think in hindsight I had been doing it for maybe 2 or 3 days when my girlfriend cut my hair for it. So I'm not really sure how much my levels were thrown off. I have ARL sups on the way so I'll be doing that whenever those get here. Probably doing basically electrolytes protocol until then with lots of potassium. If anyone has any better ideas, please share.

How you doing man? Working on this hard right now.

 

[Gumbo]

How you doing man? Working on this hard right now.

Not great but definitely better. Think I'm finally starting to hold some of the huge amounts of potassium I'm taking in. Looking a bit healthier and no longer feel like I'm actively dying. But most recently my nuts have gotten really hard and sucked up close to my body so I'm not sure what the hell is going on there. Can't feel any lumps and they've shrunk rather than swelling up so I don't think it's cancer, though obviously I'm a bit worried about that given my state and some of the skin changes I had recently after the h2. But they're like fucking golf ball hard. I guess maybe my potassium has been so low for so long that my progesterone is absolutely through the roof and they're trying their hardest to disappear completely, who knows. It was already massive last blood test so I wouldn't be surprised.

I might make a thread and ask if anyone has any ideas tonight and get a doctor to cop a feel some time next week if it's not improving.

How are you doing? Any success?

 

[bruschi11]

I’m going hardcore a with a holistic disease fighting specialist or “naturalist” she goes by. Using TEI and general practices on this site. She’s aggressive with treatment So I now feel like shit a lot from doing this stuff.

But I’ve made steady progress in last few weeks post hydrogen. Will be interesting when I get off all supps, stop everything in about 6 weeks. That’s when I’ll truly know my baseline.

But I’m making decent bowel movements right now and libido hasn’t been this good consistently during pfs (when I’m feeling well) so I’m currently pleased.

@Gumbo maybe try the ozone water. Maybe start juicing veggies. 50-60 oz a day. I think we want to oxygenate the body. Juicing can help With that.

This is all theory. But I would love to see someone who got hit by h2 water try the ozone. @Helen has repeatedly said that it could be used to balance out h2.

 

[noprop]

You can try the high ozone therapy. Blood is several times treated with ozone and reinfused. Incredible stuff.

 

[Canari]

co2 is needed to bring o2 to the cells, so I would check the CP, control pause, from Buteyko, and if lower than 20, I would make it go up with frolov device or with buteyko breathing.

What I find best to increase it, and it gets rid even of headaches quick, is to do normal breathing with a pause after each exhale. Pause only confortably, like maxi when you feel about to swallow or feel the mere start of urge to inhale.

Side effect: it is calming and puts in a meditative state naturally. i have reached 2 breathings per minute with a natural breathe in and out! Pulse must not increase, it must be easy and natural.

 

[bruschi11]

@Helen you mentioned “a plastic thing” for ozone that you used.

I have to try ozone to help reverse these damages from h2. I am still having bad digestion, constipation. Second run of TEI (essentially) has my gut worse than ever.

I can’t make a bowel movement without enema or colonic.

Can you please give link to “plastic thing” ozone you used effectively? Please man, this water has damaged me and you were the first to mention that ozone could possibly balance out what h2 does.

I can’t live like this anymore.

 

[Helen]

@Helen you mentioned “a plastic thing” for ozone that you used.

I have to try ozone to help reverse these damages from h2. I am still having bad digestion, constipation. Second run of TEI (essentially) has my gut worse than ever.

I can’t make a bowel movement without enema or colonic.

Can you please give link to “plastic thing” ozone you used effectively? Please man, this water has damaged me and you were the first to mention that ozone could possibly balance out what h2 does.

I can’t live like this anymore.

https://www.amazon.com/Generator-ma...id=1534962306&sr=8-9&keywords=ozone+generator

I used something like that. YOu can ozonate the water and drink it, or just sit in the bathtub, put this stuff into the water and breathe it for 30 min. It is cheap

Man I doubt hydrogen water can damage you this much. You need to go on TEI and stay on it and dont add any aminos to it.

 

[bruschi11]

I feel like I do best after stopping these cycles. Like TEI- when I stop I regain more libido and the ability to digest and transit foods is far better. Like 100x better.

But when I’m on TEI or ARL for too long this is what happens. There’s just so much pathogen die off in system combined with chelation that it’s too much for gut to take.

I doubt h2 did all this. But it’s in a system that had like a record high mycoplasma infection (3900 igg, igm), ammonia was 85 (0-50 scale). Along with the mercury and toxicities you saw.

I just think like 10-15 day cycles of this. Or 1 day of dosing day every 4th-5th day (like @Raincoast ) might be better for me.

Cuz the deeper I get into cycles the worse digestion gets.

I know difference between herxheimer and chelation very well. H2 was mostly chelation (crazily), this is crazy herxing in addition to some chelation. It’s just too much for my gut, current oxidation.

 

[bruschi11]

Just ordered the ozone with one day shipping. Tomorrow I’ll begin.

 

[noprop]

Just ordered the ozone with one day shipping. Tomorrow I’ll begin.

Man, that sounds crazy hard.
I had other gut issues on chelation. My guess: too much activation, too little absorption. What about enteros, bentonit in huge doses? The very intelligent and brave guy on solve did it with great success? Good luck!

 

[bruschi11]

Going to really look into that stuff @noprop .

Will begin with ozone. Will take my tei/slow oxidizer formula supps every 4th day so my body keeps trending toward balance while i try to heal gut/constipation.

The thing that’s weird is sometimes my stools are sooo good. Like dark large good looking stools.

 

[noprop]

Going to really look into that stuff @noprop .

Will begin with ozone. Will take my tei/slow oxidizer formula supps every 4th day so my body keeps trending toward balance while i try to heal gut/constipation.

The thing that’s weird is sometimes my stools are sooo good. Like dark large good looking stools.

But I wouldn't eat or sell them. You are kinda in love with it.
Check what you have eaten 1-4 days before. You could try eating only red meat for one week. You could be surprised.

 

[MNK99]

Bad digestion... red meat could be very hard. Anytime I have bad digestion, I alternate day fast and intermittant fast, or if its really bad -- water fasted.
-And broke with a tiny vegan meal (i.e. juiced). --If really hungry, an egg or so. --> yesterday nite post workout, after 24hrs (this is too long, but I thought it would help
and was working on something so lost track of time). 2-3days water fast last week, broke with juice, I'd prefer soup but I can't make tm food rite now.
-I hope your condition improves soon, man.

 

[bruschi11]

My stools? Yea I’ve never eaten my own poop have you @noprop ?

I doubt my stools have much value on the black market.

 

[noprop]

My stools? Yea I’ve never eaten my own poop have you @noprop ?

I doubt my stools have much value on the black market.

My stools are not that good But if they were, the actual path could be a right one.
On the black market, yeah, black large stool!

 

[bruschi11]

Ozone Exposure Increases Circulating Stress Hormones and Lipid Metabolites in Humans | Science Inventory | US EPA

I’m looking to increase potassium in cell and thus cortisol with it.... this is good sign.