PFS , ( GABA, ARs, DHT testosterone ) Mechanism of PFS continued.

[Helen]

Yeah but pot is also a 5ar inhibitor or has similar actions.

It's crazy this was years back but when I quit smoking pot, boom hairloss. Before that it was premium. Prime. I also noticed that when I quit my libido was shot. Took years to return. This is why I am running DHT soon after these successful r andro runs.

POT is not 5AR inhibitor. CB1 receptor inhibits LH. Cb1 receptor is controlled by estrogen

This is how axis is inhibited by estrogen, Estrogen increases canabinoids and this inhibits LH by Cb1 receptor


Estrogen itself does not do anything to the axis.

 

[Helen]

@Trump_1776 before you play with hormones, you at least need to have your full panel done, to know wtf is going on ))

 

[Ingeno]

Weed initially made me horny, but over time my libido kept dropping. I also think, liked I used to in my teens, if you are balanced you can easily smoke pot/drink once in a while without fucking things up. In my teens I could throw all kinds of stuff at my body while feeling great all those years.

 

[Helen]

This is exactly why one thing helps one person and not another. since most people here dont have PFS>

they have completely dif shit. then you add to it PSSD and accutane confusions and boom, you got yourself random trials.


some people have high DHT and high test, then some have zero DHT and zero test. and both of them try to do the same shit LOL

 

[Trump_1776]

POT is not 5AR inhibitor. CB1 receptor inhibits LH. Cb1 receptor is controlled by estrogen

This is how axis is inhibited by estrogen, Estrogen increases canabinoids and this inhibits LH by Cb1 receptor


Estrogen itself does not do anything to the axis.

Bind to dht receptors right?

 

[Trump_1776]

@Trump_1776 before you play with hormones, you at least need to have your full panel done, to know wtf is going on ))

I have everything done but DHT

 

[Slayo]

bruschi , immune system is imparied, since your CB1 and opiod receptors are fucked.

those things are regulated by pregnenolone.

Stress does what? stress fucks CB1 receptor Canabinoid receptor )) you need to understand it.

Smoking pot does what? also fucks that receptor.

So trying to get healthy is a vague thing, you need to fix that receptor. activity so the body regulates immune system properly.

And killing bugs here and there with stuff does nothing IMO>

Kill them they just grow again.

TEI regulates all the body immune system everything. by minerals, it will regulate these receptors.


Or people can try to adjust them with pregnenolone. we need to read what is LOW in CSF))

Pregnenolone alone gave me lots of fatigue and killed my hairs

 

[Helen]

Bind to dht receptors right?

DHT inhibits axis by 3 a adiol ( increasing gaba ) and 3 beta adiol since it is potent estrogen, which then activates ER , which activates Cb1 and this inhibits LH.



Estrogen increases canabinoids which activates Cb1 then inhibits LH.


DHT does not have receptors, DHT receptors are the same as testosterone. receptors.

Only in different tissue you have less or more 5AR.


this is why if DHT receptors are overexpressed l like crazy. then body has to downregulate ARs all over. and testosterone does not work.


Same happens with Gilberts syndrome, Most of those people have PFS and POIS. without even taking FINasteride.

This happens since their glucorinadation does nto work, and all of them have high DHT levels. which then inhibit their

estro and testo

 

[SwaZ]

@Helen
You think ldn might fix pois in some people?

Also

How does it increase testosterone, and what happens on the snap back?

 

[SwaZ]

I think i might run ldn to fix my pois from viagra

 

[Helen]

@Helen
You think ldn might fix pois in some people?

Also

How does it increase testosterone, and what happens on the snap back?

yes, LDN can fix pois in some people FOR SURE.

and it did fix it in some people.

external opiods tend of suppress immune system.

internal are the opposite.

 

[Helen]

I think i might run ldn to fix my pois from viagra

viagra affects opiod receptor?

i had about 10 people compain that they got pois from viagra.

I guess it screwed up their nitric oxide metabolism

 

[Helen]

@SwaZ LDN is the snap back

 

[tallglass13]

Ok guys,
So I added back high dose N.O. Protocol along with the hormone protocol. It seems to be working. Morning erection was pointing at 2 o'clock this morning after upping my dose of arginine ,folate, citruline, ornithine. Other researchers along with Helen, advise to use arginine and clean liver , and use herbs, like CD nuts protocol to reverse PFS>

 

[tallglass13]

Of course Electrolyte protocol must be followed as well. Everyone should be cured using Electrolyte, Nitric Oxide, liver clean/flush/fasting, Hormone Protocol all together. Smoking Pot takes up your brain neurotransmitters and then you run on Pot. then you take pot away and you have nothing. since your brain was using the pot to control you. take away pot, now you are left with nothing, Until you clean, and use herbs and electrolytes, vitamins , amino acids to heal your brain and body.
Cod liver and borage oil can help with dry joints and skin problems. Also good for Prostaglandin synthesis for arterial elasticity.

 

[Helen]

Ok guys,
So I added back high dose N.O. Protocol along with the hormone protocol. It seems to be working. Morning erection was pointing at 2 o'clock this morning after upping my dose of arginine ,folate, citruline, ornithine. Other researchers along with Helen, advise to use arginine and clean liver , and use herbs, like CD nuts protocol to reverse PFS>

dont confuse a stilt with the cure.

JDQ ran this for years and when he quits goes back to square one immediately.

I hope you understand that when you are on test and thyroid everything just works as it should in a normal person.

so taking nitric oxide precusors just boosts nitric oxide. as it would in any normal person.

P.S this does not work for 50 percent people at all. since

some people are fast oxidizers and will fuck themselves up))


taking this stilt will have problems down the line.

 

[hairsuit]

You can't taper down finasteride, if i remember correctly

Of course you can taper down. You lessen dose and space out over the course of a month. Your body has a chance to acclimate. If you’re going to quit, it’s how you should do it.

 

[Helen]

@tallglass13 you need to understand that people are all different. they have different oxidations. you cant give them oils, some random herbs, it wont do anything at all.

walker and all other guys on random herbs for years, if not for 4 andro , nothing would have happened to them

and random herbs did nto even touch their allopregnenolone problems. NONE. one still has PTSD and another one cant sleep. and most people will be like that.

you need over RDA certain minerals and vitamins to balance you out, otherwise just normal good food would cure people. but it is not the case

Cleaning the liver is always good. but taking random oils is dangerous.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Of course you can taper down. You lessen dose and space out over the course of a month. Your body has a chance to acclimate. If you’re going to quit, it’s how you should do it.

Not sure if this works. Finasteride has a flat dose response. 0.5mg and 1mg almost have the same effect in the body.

I do think higher dosage means you will build up more of the drug in the body (liver?). In that sense taper down could help.

 

[hairsuit]

There was a guy on Hackstasis who took finasteride already and he did not get better. I think he felt good for a few days and then felt like shit. I don't think he had any snapback.

@hairsuit I thought you were doing better on TEI

I think we need to give all the protocols time and stop jumping to different things. Unless someone is willing to test this in short term.

It is hard to be patient with the protocols but jumping to different things will slow things down more.

If there is someone new and not doing any existing protocol then he can do a new protocol so we have as much different protocols trying out.

I do think we can be critical of protocols if they don't work but to have a good picture we need to give it more time. For example people on TEI: 6 months.

If after 6 months you had zero improvements you can try a different protocol.

I agree with you. But I have been on ARL or atEI now since May. As I say, I got a lot of improvement from it. The one thing that will not fix itself is the sexual sides. That has been troubling. I’ll stick on this for infinity if it works, but I haven’t seen a resolution of sexual sides with this. That’s the question. How long to try it until I figure out something else.